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Coming Against Reformed Theology

Did your church start with Christ giving Peter the keys? Does your church have the NT priesthood?
The key below? The one that unlocked. . . introducing the father of lies ? Was it turned the wrong way ?

Mathew 16: 22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

What lesson do you think Peter our brother in the lord did learn? What would Wwjd . . . or what would Jesus do ?

What would Wwpd do. . . .or what would the Pope do? Things of Peter or things of our invisible head our Holy Father ?
 
The Apostles were Bishops
Catholic priests are not apostles.

Still waiting on the answers to the questions in post #155.
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: A prime example of the abuse of Scripture. Just call your religion the "us" and the "our," and wallah---you have proof!

Should the Catholic reformers have stayed with a religion that forbid lay people from possessing the Bible in the common language? That hanged, burned, decapitated and hung heads on bridge spikes, any who were caught translating the Bible into languages they could read and speak? A church organization that did the same to all dissenters of their tyrannical reign, who failed to bow down to them? WHo had self appointed priests, full of sexual perversions, greed, self seeking, self serving, men of ill character, putting them in the place of Christ? Who invented doctrines nowhere found in Scripture, worshiped human saints they named as saints, extracted indulgences with the promise of heaven, set up idols and prayed to them?

Should they have stayed? Was that truly Christ's one true church? The only thing that has changed is the human slaughter.
 
Catholic priests are not apostles.
they are the successors to the Apostles through the laying on of hands.... the Apostles were Bishops
 
*munches his 🍿*
 
Born again = baptism

H20 as a rudiment of this world has no authority or power to perform salvation. It simply evaporates or up like smoke as rudiments

We cannot know Christ after the philosophies, oral traditons of the dying fathers

Theology is what we need for spiritual unseen eternal matters .

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Water like blood or both working together represent the unseen work or the Holy Spirit. The pouring His Spirit on dying flesh in jeapordy of His own Spirit life

Baptism of the water of the word. the doctrines of God that come down like rain and cause new growth.

The baptism of the water of the word . The Spirt of Christ as a labor of Love working us cleanses our new hearts.

By the same washing of the water of the word earthly husband are to wash their wives with His doctrines .Not the doctrine of men oral tradition

Deuteronomy 32King James Version Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.
My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:

Ephesians 5:25-27King James Version Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

It, I believe can be seen in a parable in Exodus God brings the living word down as rain called manna .Meaning what is it . The hidden word our daily bread a desire to know the will of God

Exodus 14-15 And when the dew that lay was gone up, behold, upon the face of the wilderness there lay a small round thing, as small as the hoar frost on the ground. And when the children of Israel saw it, they said one to another, It is manna: for they wist not what it was. And Moses said unto them, This is the bread which the Lord hath given you to eat.

Exodus 16:14-16King James Version And when the dew that lay was gone up, behold, upon the face of the wilderness there lay a small round thing, as small as the hoar frost on the ground. And when the children of Israel saw it, they said one to another, It is manna: for they wist not what it was. And Moses said unto them, This is the bread which the Lord hath given you to eat.
 
H20 as a rudiment of this world has no authority or power to perform salvation. It simply evaporates or up like smoke as rudiments
[baptism] not when it is a sacrament given by Christ
 
[baptism] not when it is a sacrament given by Christ
It would seem you have no biblically truth

Ceremonial laws as shadows signs to the world .

The first sentry reformation is over two thousand years ago We have one new ceremonial shadow as gospel sign to the whole world .The cup and head covering. they will be fulfilled in the new heavens and earth

Hebrew 9 The Holy Ghost this signifying, (parable ) that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: Which was a figure (parable) for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation

W
orshipng shadows is not the same as worshiping the substance of faith (Christ)

Aarons two sons on opening day. added a oral tradition of the fathers called strange fire . The fire consumed them no a hint of smoke on the ceremonial attire.
 
they are the successors to the Apostles through the laying on of hands.... the Apostles were Bishops
Bishop means overseer, not priest, and there is no succession of the apostles in the Bible. It is very specific about who qualified as an apostle, and no one has qualified since the death of the twelve and Paul. They were appointed by JESUS for a specific purpose, and that was to establish the BOUNDARIES of the teaching of His church. (Doctrines and beliefs iow. What was necessary to be saved. And what is necessary is faith in Christ alone---not Christ and other things.) These BOUNDARIES are referred to as the FOUNDATION of His church and nothing is to be built on any other FOUNDATION---with Christ as the Cornerstone that holds the building, all believers, up. Not Christ and tradition. Not Christ and the pope and RCC traditions and intercession.

Acts 1:21-22 So one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, beginning from the baptism of John until the day when He was taken up from us---one of these men must become with us a witness to His resurrection.

Eph 2:19-21 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, In him you also are being built together into a dwelling lace for God by the Spirit.

1 Cor 3:10-11 According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid a foundation, and someone else is building upon it. Let each one take care how he builds upon it. For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.


I am still waiting on you to answer the questions in post #155. We are now at #189.
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: A prime example of the abuse of Scripture. Just call your religion the "us" and the "our," and wallah---you have proof!

Should the Catholic reformers have stayed with a religion that forbid lay people from possessing the Bible in the common language? That hanged, burned, decapitated and hung heads on bridge spikes, any who were caught translating the Bible into languages they could read and speak? A church organization that did the same to all dissenters of their tyrannical reign, who failed to bow down to them? WHo had self appointed priests, full of sexual perversions, greed, self seeking, self serving, men of ill character, putting them in the place of Christ? Who invented doctrines nowhere found in Scripture, worshiped human saints they named as saints, extracted indulgences with the promise of heaven, set up idols and prayed to them?

Should they have stayed? Was that truly Christ's one true church? The only thing that has changed is the human slaughter.
 
Bishop means overseer, not priest, and there is no succession of the apostles in the Bible.
There was most definitely succession through the laying on of hands. The Apostles were Bishops [an office] and they laid hands on the next generation. Do you need verses for that?
 
It would seem you don't believe Christ and His Church.
I don't believe God who does not dwell in temples made with the dying hands as a will of mankind is the church ?

Why do you? What the hope.
 
I don't believe God who does not dwell in temples made with the dying hands as a will of mankind is the church ?
Thank God that we are not dying hands. Praise God!!! AMEN!!!
 
the key above

to lead Christ's Church
I would disagree the spiritual lesson is clear. Peter thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
 
I would disagree the spiritual lesson is clear. Peter thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
I would disagree....

feed my sheep
shepherd my sheep
keys to the kingdom
 
I would disagree....

feed my sheep
shepherd my sheep
keys to the kingdom

When did Peter dying mankind suffer for three days and nights. Where do you get that stuff from. .certainly not the Bible.

You keep speaking of "key to the kingdom." The bible would be loaded with verses to support that kid of idea of dying mankind that you call the gospel. What key.? The gospel key, the key of the good new of Christ ? .And where would I find the passages to support the oral tradition of dying mankind . Or is the key is not good news but is the dying flesh and Blood Peter out brother in the Lord who rebuked the Holy Spirt and forbid the Son of man jesus from doing the good will of the Holy Father

Satan trying to deceive the whole word that eternal is a Jewish man as King of kings. Satan the god king of this world His ultimate goal from day one

What was the lesson that Peter our brother in the Lord learn.

I find it interesting that a religion is built on one verse some call cherry picking No Peter to Catholicism.

The gate of Christ, the invisible head when agin he will try and deceive all the nations God is a Jewish man as King of kings and Lord of lords

That gates stays locked it will be loosed again at the end of the age .
 
When did Peter dying mankind suffer for three days and nights.
Our Savior gave him the keys of authority and you are basically saying you don't trust Christ's decision.
 
There was most definitely succession through the laying on of hands. The Apostles were Bishops [an office] and they laid hands on the next generation. Do you need verses for that?
There aren't any verses for that, only ones in which you presume that the Catholic organization is what the Bible is writing about, and then by it's self given authority to interpret all Scripture, and no one else should dare use their own brains and trust in the Holy Spirit to give understanding. You have been proven wrong over and over. The impossibility of what you say to be true is shown by the very historical character of its corruption within its hierarchy. By usurping God's authority. By claiming itself as the mediator between God and Mary, and Mary mediating to Jesus. By idols. Exalting itself above Christ by claiming that He cannot save without them and their traditions. Even the traditions that are in the Scripture and are for the church, they distort from their meaning and give themselves authority over them.
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: A prime example of the abuse of Scripture. Just call your religion the "us" and the "our," and wallah---you have proof!

Should the Catholic reformers have stayed with a religion that forbid lay people from possessing the Bible in the common language? That hanged, burned, decapitated and hung heads on bridge spikes, any who were caught translating the Bible into languages they could read and speak? A church organization that did the same to all dissenters of their tyrannical reign, who failed to bow down to them? WHo had self appointed priests, full of sexual perversions, greed, self seeking, self serving, men of ill character, putting them in the place of Christ? Who invented doctrines nowhere found in Scripture, worshiped human saints they named as saints, extracted indulgences with the promise of heaven, set up idols and prayed to them?

Should they have stayed? Was that truly Christ's one true church? The only thing that has changed is the human slaughter.
 
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