Chimney Rock..if the earth is "old" why is it still here?

[CrowCross]

Anyway; in my opinion, the withdrawal of Noah's flood was too brief to cause
the amount of erosion you're talking about.
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In my opinion there wasn't enought time for the sediment to slowly build up around the formation by the process of gradual deposition over all of those years...then the sudden turn and the wind and rain slowly eroding away all of tht sediment.

 

[Frank Robert]

You do know this same God made Adam from the dust then Eve from his rib.....which isn't anywhere near theo-evo-ism.

That is fundamentalist belief. Many mainline Protestant and Catholic denominations interpret the Genesis creation story as a symbolic or allegorical narrative, not a scientific record of events; while some Christian groups, particularly fundamentalists, interpret it more literally.

 

[CrowCross]

That is fundamentalist belief. Many mainline Protestant and Catholic denominations interpret the Genesis creation story as a symbolic or allegorical narrative, not a scientific record of events; while some Christian groups, particularly fundamentalists, interpret it more literally.

Then perhaps you can tell all of us what each verse in the creation story symbolism means.

Why were the birds created on day 5?

If Adam didn't fall in the garden.....when did mankind fall?

You're theology is merky FR.

 

[Frank Robert]

Then perhaps you can tell all of us what each verse in the creation story symbolism means.

Why were the birds created on day 5?

My guess is that God carefully planned the order of creation and made everything at the right time.

If Adam didn't fall in the garden.....when did mankind fall?

Adam and Eve were real people who were created in a state of holiness but lost that state after they sinned. The Church celebrates the Fall because it led to the birth of Jesus, who brought salvation to humanity

You're theology is merky FR.

I am not surprised that creationists think that other Christian denomination interpretations are murky theology because mainline Protestants and the Catholic Church reconcile modern science with their faith in Creation

 

[CrowCross]

My guess is that God carefully planned the order of creation and made everything at the right time.

Yup, I agree....and it disagree's with Satans evolutionism.

Adam and Eve were real people who were created in a state of holiness but lost that state after they sinned. The Church celebrates the Fall because it led to the birth of Jesus, who brought salvation to humanity

How does that theory fit into the book of evolutionism?

I am not surprised that creationists think that other Christian denomination interpretations are murky theology because mainline Protestants and the Catholic Church reconcile modern science with their faith in Creation

Many "christians" like you...if you are a "christian" have been deceived.

 

[Frank Robert]

Yup, I agree....and it disagree's with Satans evolutionism.

I sure there are many Christian's on both sides but I was unfamiliar with the term "Satan's evolutionism" so I looked it up

The term "satan evolutionists" is not a recognized or widely used phrase among Christian denominations. However, some Christian groups, particularly those adhering to Young Earth Creationism, view the theory of evolution as contradictory to their interpretation of the Bible. They may associate evolutionary theory with secularism or even consider it a deception. For instance, in the book "UFOs, Satan & Evolution," the author suggests that theistic evolutionists align with atheistic evolutionists in rejecting the biblical account of creation, implying that evolutionary philosophy originates from Satan. Goodreads​

How does that theory fit into the book of evolutionism?

God could have easily done it in various ways. One idea that comes to mind comes from a book: The Genealogical Adam and Eve. The author, S. Joshua Swamidass, runs the website Peaceful Science

Many "christians" like you...if you are a "christian" have been deceived.

People, most often, believe in the religions and denominations that were raised and educated in. I can imagine that some are deceived but I would not know who they are.

 

[CrowCross]

I sure there are many Christian's on both sides but I was unfamiliar with the term "Satan's evolutionism" so I looked it up

The term "satan evolutionists" is not a recognized or widely used phrase among Christian denominations. However, some Christian groups, particularly those adhering to Young Earth Creationism, view the theory of evolution as contradictory to their interpretation of the Bible. They may associate evolutionary theory with secularism or even consider it a deception. For instance, in the book "UFOs, Satan & Evolution," the author suggests that theistic evolutionists align with atheistic evolutionists in rejecting the biblical account of creation, implying that evolutionary philosophy originates from Satan. Goodreads​

God could have easily done it in various ways. One idea that comes to mind comes from a book: The Genealogical Adam and Eve. The author, S. Joshua Swamidass, runs the website Peaceful Science

People, most often, believe in the religions and denominations that were raised and educated in. I can imagine that some are deceived but I would not know who they are.

Dude, your view is anti-bible. Satanic evo-ism goes against the Word of God. Your science doesn't support it.

 

[Frank Robert]

Dude, your view is anti-bible. Satanic evo-ism goes against the Word of God. Your science doesn't support it.

I do not know what you are talking about. There is no such thing as satanic evo-ism as I quoted above. Here it is again

The term "satan evolutionists" is not a recognized or widely used phrase among Christian denominations. However, some Christian groups, particularly those adhering to Young Earth Creationism, view the theory of evolution as contradictory to their interpretation of the Bible. They may associate evolutionary theory with secularism or even consider it a deception. For instance, in the book "UFOs, Satan & Evolution," the author suggests that theistic evolutionists align with atheistic evolutionists in rejecting the biblical account of creation, implying that evolutionary philosophy originates from Satan. Goodreads​

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You are not only mistaken but also unchristian to label your fellow Christians, Catholics and main stream Protestants, that accept evolution as "Satan evolutionists"

I have previously not commented on you insults because I found them childish.

 

[CrowCross]

I do not know what you are talking about. There is no such thing as satanic evo-ism as I quoted above. Here it is again

The term "satan evolutionists" is not a recognized or widely used phrase among Christian denominations. However, some Christian groups, particularly those adhering to Young Earth Creationism, view the theory of evolution as contradictory to their interpretation of the Bible. They may associate evolutionary theory with secularism or even consider it a deception. For instance, in the book "UFOs, Satan & Evolution," the author suggests that theistic evolutionists align with atheistic evolutionists in rejecting the biblical account of creation, implying that evolutionary philosophy originates from Satan. Goodreads​

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You are not only mistaken but also unchristian to label your fellow Christians, Catholics and main stream Protestants, that accept evolution as "Satan evolutionists"

I have previously not commented on you insults because I found them childish.

You're following science designed to nullify the bible.

What's next...Jesus didn't walk on water?

 

[Odë:hgöd]

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When Jesus returns to rule the world, I plan on taking some time to visit all the
locations I missed this time around.

For example, the only foreign country I've ever been to is Mexico and even then
just the border towns of Tijuana and Tecate so I have a lot to catch up on; that's if
anything is left. It appears to me from accounts in the book of Revelation that the
world will undergo catastrophic damage during the interim between the rapture and
when the Lord gets back so I may be in for some disappointment on a few fronts.

But what the hay; at least I won't be on the wrong side of things with that myriad
of lost souls down below who have nothing to look forward to except the great
white throne event depicted by Rev 20:11-15.

Oh! and another thing; according to Matt 26:29, Luke 22:15-16, and Luke 22:28-30,
folks who make the cut for the Lord's kingdom will be able to dine upon
ordinary foods and beverages. Just imagine the pleasure of touring the world and
tasting samples of cuisine in every culture on earth; and in perfect safety too
because according to Isa 2:4 there won't be any war zones to worry about.

Yippy Io Ky-yay!
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[Frank Robert]

You're following science designed to nullify the bible.

What's next...Jesus didn't walk on water?

You shouldn't make up things about a person you do not know or a denomination you don't belong to and are clueless about. Please don't insult with your false accusations. It's unChristian to do so.

For your information: Catholics believe that Jesus did walk on water, as this is a story recounted in the Bible, specifically in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and John, which are accepted as scripture by the Catholic Church;

Many people believe that creationists have a narrow understanding of the bible and a view that creationists "make things up" which often stems from the perception that they misunderstand or misrepresent scientific facts, either intentionally or due to a limited understanding of both science and the Bible. Here are some ideas to think about:

The Bible and science are two different fields that address different questions. The Bible is not a scientific textbook, and science does not make faith assertions.​

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Science and the Bible are compatible when science is understood as the study of God's created works.​

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Science and religion are complementary forms of truth.​

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The Bible and science do overlap. For example, the Bible speaks of the fixed nature of the universe, which makes scientific discovery possible.​

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Scientific discoveries can enhance understanding of the Bible.​

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The Bible says that God encouraged scientific exploration when he commanded humans to rule over the earth.​

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The Bible offers moral frameworks that can guide the ethical use of scientific discoveries (e.g., in medicine, genetic engineering, and environmental stewardship).​

 

[CrowCross]

You shouldn't make up things about a denomination you don't belong to and clueless about. For your information: Catholics believe that Jesus did walk on water, as this is a story recounted in the Bible, specifically in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and John, which are accepted as scripture by the Catholic Church

I wasn't making anything up.....You, FR seem to be picking and choosing your miracles.

I'll believe this one...but...not this one.

 

[Frank Robert]

I wasn't making anything up....

From my perspective you are making things up

If it is the Bible I agree take it on faith that it is true.

.You, FR seem to be picking and choosing your miracles.

What other of Jesus's Biblical miracles do you imagine that I disagree with.

I'll believe this one...but...not this one.

If you want to know, don't take my word for it just go to go to Catholic answers.

Here is a link to: A walk on water.

 

[CrowCross]

What other of Jesus's Biblical miracles do you imagine that I disagree with.

Pretty much Gen 1.

Have you changed your mind on evolutionism?

 

[Frank Robert]

Pretty much Gen 1.

Genesis 1 is a foundational text that teaches key truths about God's creation, it is not a literal scientific account of the origin of the universe; meaning it emphasizes the idea that God created everything out of nothing, He is the source of all being, and humans are made in His image.

Have you changed your mind on evolutionism?

Unlike you, I do not view evolution or science in general as evil.

There's nothing in most Christian texts that explicitly condemns science or evolution as inherently evil. In fact, most Christian thinkers and traditions see science as a way to explore and understand the natural world that we believe God created.

Most Christian denominations do not see a conflict between their faith and the scientific theory of evolution and acknowledge that evolution is compatible with their understanding of creation. These denominations often view the Genesis account as a theological or metaphorical narrative rather than a literal scientific explanation, allowing for harmony between science and faith. This perspective underscores that science and religion can coexist and address different aspects of human understanding.

Regardless of what you read at AIG and at similar YEC sites, there is zero scientific evidence of a young earth. YEC arguments rely on questioning conventional scientific interpretations, misinterpretations of data, and selective use of evidence rather than providing independent evidence.

On the other hand, the theory of evolution is among the most supported scientific theories, it is considered one of the most well-established and widely supported theories in science, backed by extensive evidence from multiple scientific disciplines like genetics, paleontology, and developmental biology.

 

[CrowCross]

Genesis 1 is a foundational text that teaches key truths about God's creation, it is not a literal scientific account of the origin of the universe; meaning it emphasizes the idea that God created everything out of nothing, He is the source of all being, and humans are made in His image.

First off...no one ever said Genesis is supposed to be "scientific account". In fact Genesis is quite miracleous. Mracles you don't believe in. After all you did ask..."What other of Jesus's Biblical miracles do you imagine that I disagree with.'

Unlike you, I do not view evolution or science in general as evil.

???? I believe science is evil????? OK, FR...what ever you say.

Now, evo-ism in place of the special creation as mentioned in the bible is quite evil. It removes God from the equation. Did you know God didn't create humans? The ancient aliens seeded our planet and tweeked us. Little DNA change here and a little DNA change there and...you get a man. No need for God. Adam never fell in the garden...in fact there was no garden as well as no Adam.

There's nothing in most Christian texts that explicitly condemns science or evolution as inherently evil. In fact, most Christian thinkers and traditions see science as a way to explore and understand the natural world that we believe God created.

Keep telling yourself that.

Most Christian denominations do not see a conflict between their faith and the scientific theory of evolution and acknowledge that evolution is compatible with their understanding of creation.

They are naive and deceived....much like you.

These denominations often view the Genesis account as a theological or metaphorical narrative rather than a literal scientific explanation, allowing for harmony between science and faith. This perspective underscores that science and religion can coexist and address different aspects of human understanding.

How is forming Adam from the dust..then Eve from his rib anything like evo-ism?

When, where, how did mankind fall and require a savior happen? How does your evo-ism explain that?

Regardless of what you read at AIG and at similar YEC sites, there is zero scientific evidence of a young earth.

Click your heals together and say..."there's no place like home"

YEC arguments rely on questioning conventional scientific interpretations, misinterpretations of data, and selective use of evidence rather than providing independent evidence.

"Indepentent evidences"? Chimney rock.

On the other hand, the theory of evolution is among the most supported scientific theories, it is considered one of the most well-established and widely supported theories in science, backed by extensive evidence from multiple scientific disciplines like genetics, paleontology, and developmental biology.

I do find it ironic that you deny the special creation of Jesus Christ when He made the world and universe as per Gen 1 because your scientist group have decided that it happened...they're science says NO to the bible..YET, YET, YET...you believe a dead guy can come back to life on day 3 after hanging on a cross and dying.

You're wishy washy FR. Your straddling the fence...serving two masters. Who do you serve? God of the bible or god of man?

 

[Frank Robert]

First off...no one ever said Genesis is supposed to be "scientific account". In fact Genesis is quite miracleous. Mracles you don't believe in. After all you did ask..."What other of Jesus's Biblical miracles do you imagine that I disagree with.'

Again, Genesis contains important teachings about God and humans, but most Christians denomination do not interpret the creation story literally.

???? I believe science is evil????? OK, FR...what ever you say.

Thanks for clarifying about science. You have repeatedly claimed evolution to be evil which is creationist belief, not a fact.

Now, evo-ism in place of the special creation as mentioned in the bible is quite evil. It removes God from the equation.

That is your creationist claim which the majority of Christian denominations disagree with.

Did you know God didn't create humans? The ancient aliens seeded our planet and tweeked us. Little DNA change here and a little DNA change there and...you get a man. No need for God. Adam never fell in the garden...in fact there was no garden as well as no Adam.
Keep telling yourself that.

They are naive and deceived....much like you.

How is forming Adam from the dust..then Eve from his rib anything like evo-ism?

When, where, how did mankind fall and require a savior happen? How does your evo-ism explain that?

Click your heals together and say..."there's no place like home"

As usual you are not making sense. I have no idea of what your what you are talking about.

"Indepentent evidences"? Chimney rock.

Chimney rock is a creationist argument for a young earth, it is not evidence for a young earth.

I do find it ironic that you deny the special creation of Jesus Christ when He made the world and universe as per Gen 1 because your scientist group have decided that it happened...they're science says NO to the bible..YET, YET, YET...you believe a dead guy can come back to life on day 3 after hanging on a cross and dying.

You are making things up. I do not deny that God (Father, Son & Spirit ) created the universe and everything it, including Earth.

You're wishy washy FR. Your straddling the fence...serving two masters. Who do you serve? God of the bible or god of man?

You are confusing accepting the scientific consensus on evolution as a detriment to serving God. One does not preclude the other. You really need to think about that. Perhaps you can use the internet and or AI to help you out.

 

[CrowCross]

Again, Genesis contains important teachings about God and humans, but most Christians denomination do not interpret the creation story literally.

Thanks for clarifying about science. You have repeatedly claimed evolution to be evil which is creationist belief, not a fact.

That is your creationist claim which the majority of Christian denominations disagree with.

As usual you are not making sense. I have no idea of what your what you are talking about.

Chimney rock is a creationist argument for a young earth, it is not evidence for a young earth.

You are making things up. I do not deny that God (Father, Son & Spirit ) created the universe and everything it, including Earth.

You are confusing accepting the scientific consensus on evolution as a detriment to serving God. One does not preclude the other. You really need to think about that. Perhaps you can use the internet and or AI to help you out.

So, what you are telling me is....Genesis never happened.

So, tell me this...when and why did mankind fall and require Jesus to be a sacrificial atonment for our sin?