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Can the external call of the gospel by itself produce faith in the heart of the natural man?

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If faith is the result from the preaching of the word, the hearer must possess subjective receptivity
Wouldn’t someone have to have a state of mind that is capable of faith?

Scripture teaches the natural man is blind to spiritual values and that the sinful heart is so far from yielding itself to loving trust towards God, since it is at enmity with God.

So how can the external call of the gospel by itself, produce faith in the heart of the natural fallen man?
 
Romans 10:17; 1 Thessalonians 1:4-5; 2 Thessalonians 2:13.
For we know, brothers loved by God, that he has chosen you, 5 because our gospel came to you not only in word, but also in power and in the Holy Spirit and with full conviction. You know what kind of men we proved to be among you for your sake. 1 Thess 4.
 
If faith is the result from the preaching of the word, the hearer must possess subjective receptivity
Wouldn’t someone have to have a state of mind that is capable of faith?

Scripture teaches the natural man is blind to spiritual values and that the sinful heart is so far from yielding itself to loving trust towards God, since it is at enmity with God.

So how can the external call of the gospel by itself, produce faith in the heart of the natural fallen man?
I will be brief, NO. 😁
 
If faith is the result from the preaching of the word, the hearer must possess subjective receptivity
Wouldn’t someone have to have a state of mind that is capable of faith?

Scripture teaches the natural man is blind to spiritual values and that the sinful heart is so far from yielding itself to loving trust towards God, since it is at enmity with God.

So how can the external call of the gospel by itself, produce faith in the heart of the natural fallen man?
To answer your title: no.

This is why many Calvinists make a distinction between the internal or effectual call vs the external call.

John 8 is a wonderful example. Jesus, the way the truth and the life, is right there talking to people. He is clearly presenting the truth to them, and they rejected the truth. They eventually pick up stones to kill him, and it all began because Jesus told them that they were not free. The truth shall set you free. Later, Jesus tells them that because He tells them the truth they do not believe. Why? Because they are of their father Satan, and they have inherited his lying nature and opposition to the truth.
 
Predestination assumes that people are totally depraved, have no desire for God, or His word, nor a will capable of following God. That we prefer to sin. Although man’s nature indeed follows after sinful desires when left to itself, we are not Totally Depraved.

Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.

Jesus told His disciples to remain connected to God, for in doing so God’s Spirit would strengthen them. God’s Spirit would make them willing to obey.

Mat 26:41 Watch and pray, lest you enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak."

But to prove that the unregenerate man is not totally depraved, but rather has a will capable of following God, we only have to look at what Paul said of the unregenerate man.

Rom 7:14-23 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

We see that the unregenerate man can still “delight in the law of God according to the inward man”, and “for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find”. We see the human will is very much intact, we can still make strides to follow after God, to walk in His direction, even in our sinful state.
 
So how can the external call of the gospel by itself, produce faith in the heart of the natural fallen man?
I believe it to be the internal call, it’s hard to explain, the call/ testifying is to our spirit ,from the Holy Spirit, he speaks to our spirit, which is then relayed to our mind....he births us in the Spirit....

Only the internal birth, spiritual birth , can be performed by God through the Spirit...how he does it, can’t be explained...pretty Mind Blowing!

There is no faith without that spiritual birth.
Just my thoughts.
 
If faith is the result from the preaching of the word, the hearer must possess subjective receptivity
Wouldn’t someone have to have a state of mind that is capable of faith?

Scripture teaches the natural man is blind to spiritual values and that the sinful heart is so far from yielding itself to loving trust towards God, since it is at enmity with God.

So how can the external call of the gospel by itself, produce faith in the heart of the natural fallen man?

Now see...I thought you were asking a question. :)
 
I believe it to be the internal call, it’s hard to explain, the call/ testifying is to our spirit ,from the Holy Spirit, he speaks to our spirit, which is then relayed to our mind....he births us in the Spirit....
Where is this taught in scripture?
Only the internal birth, spiritual birth , can be performed by God through the Spirit...how he does it, can’t be explained...pretty Mind Blowing!
By crucifying us with Christ, giving us a new heart of flesh- being born again.
There is no faith without that spiritual birth.
Just my thoughts.
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Where is this taught in scripture?

By crucifying us with Christ, giving us a new heart of flesh- being born again.

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He speaks to our spirit, that’s how I knew I’m born again.....God’s word is mighty POWERFUL....when he speaks...it was mind blowing!

ROMANS 8:16

KJ21
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit that we are the children of God;
ASV
The Spirit himself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are children of God:
AMP
The Spirit Himself testifies and confirms together with our spirit [assuring us] that we [believers] are children of God.
AMPC
The Spirit Himself [thus] testifies together with our own spirit, [assuring us] that we are children of God.
BRG
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
CSB
The Spirit himself testifies together with our spirit that we are God’s children,
CEB
The same Spirit agrees with our spirit, that we are God’s children.




He speaks to the Heart / Spirit, when he births us.

Hebrews 4:12
Context Crossref Comment Greek
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

New Living Translation
For the word of God is alive and powerful. It is sharper than the sharpest two-edged sword, cutting between soul and spirit, between joint and marrow. It exposes our innermost thoughts and desires.

English Standard Version
For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
 
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