Jesus is very Deity in His nature, always been very God as in His deity
Argument against the Doctrine of the Trinity. (And keep it clean, please.)
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from where then, as your view is NOT found in the Bible
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It is quite different from the Arian theology of JWs. Eusebian subordinationism asserts an eternal but unequal Son, while JWs assert a created and unequal Son.
And that is another way in which the two differ. Under Eusebian subordinationism, the Son is not "a god" but rather "God"—by derivation, though, mirroring the Father's essence rather than possessing it self-existently.
I don't understand. I think "temo" may have been a typo—but what did you mean to type?
Meant temp, so the Eusebian viewpoint would had been that Jesus while eternal being, would be essentially in same position and rank as JW ascribed to Him, but that was derived fully from the Father in and thru Him, no inherit by Himself Deity?
And did they describe he Holy Spirit in same fashion then as did Jesus?
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All right, so your corrected sentence reads, "The Greek text itself nowhere asserts to us that Jesus is less than being very God in the ultimate sense, as whatever makes the Father as being God he possess to [the] same degree, and he only agreed to a [temporary] subordination while in his incarnated form, in human flesh."
I would offer two caveats to that statement. First, Jesus will be incarnate forever; there is nothing temporary about it. Second, his subordination is only with respect to relation and role—economic, not ontological. The Son is "of one essence with the Father" (ὁμοούσιον τῷ Πατρί), according to the Nicaean formula. As Augustine put it, according to relation (economic) the Son is from the Father, and according to essence (ontological) he is fully God.
No. According JWs, Jesus is a god; they are henotheists. According to Eusebians, Jesus is God; they are monotheists.
Eusebians treated the Spirit as lower still in the hierarchy. For Eusebian subordinationists, divinity flows downward, with each successive level deriving its being and glory from the one above. The Nicene and later Cappadocian formulations arose largely to correct that degradation of the Spirit's deity.
The Spirit of our heavenly Father, who is the only true God, which would be Deity but not another person. The Spirit acts according to the will and mind of the Spirit just as your spirit acts according to your will.
The Spirit of the one who sent Him and annointed Him was upon Him. The Father.
The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me, because the LORD has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners,
Here you have a direct statement,
Matt 10:20
for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
They forgot this 3rd person or He wasn't worthy?
Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, saying: “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!”
What no greetings from this 3rd person?
Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Nothing from or through this 3rd person?
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
No importance in knowing this 3rd person?
Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
Mary conceived by the Spirit, Does Jesus refer to the Spirit as His Father?
Jesus stated the Spirit would proceed from the Father and would be sent in His name and spoke of this other advocate and called it the Spirit of truth.
What did the Father promise?
“’In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
So where does my understanding come from?
2 other Persons in the bible also were called true God
Subordinate as in deferring to the Father, and since the incarnation now forever more fully God and Fully Man?
And how could they claim that Jesus was God in true sense of that term, as was not eternally such in His very nature?
Is the Holy Spirit a person, is he very God?
They shall all by taught by GOD.
Who did Jesus state who that God is?
Those who listen to the Father and learn from the Father come to me.
Who did Jesus state was our God? Not Himself
My God and YOUR God; My Father and your Father
Jesus calls the Father the ONLY true God.
Hebrews 1 contrasts the superiority of Jesus's Sonship vs the angels of God because He is a Son. If He's not the Fathers Son, whose Son is He?
About that Son The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, A Son who is called God
It's always been the church of the Firstborn.
He's Christ the Lord not God in the flesh
The Spirit of God not God the Spirit.
One God our Father and one Christ our Lord.
Jesus by that very statement was qualifying to us that His sonship is unique and reserved only to Him, as being only begotten by the Father and being in Hs very nature also God
Because the Father lives in Him in all HIS fullness. In that unity of oneness, the son is the First and Last. But a Literal begotten Son He is. (His spirit)
The Son is ALL that the Father is.
Jesus before His Incarnation ALWAYS had that nature of being eternally Deity Himself
No the context He was showing/stating the Father alone is Deity. The only true God. The doctrine of the trinity is NOT my teacher.
“Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me.
From His beginning. The fullness was pleased to dwell in Him. He is a begotten Son. The Firstborn of all creation. He is before all created things except His own person.
He has the Fathers nature. He lives by the Father forever. The eternal life found in the Son is the Fathers Deity without limit.
Context life without end as the wicked and unbelievers live in flesh.
Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me.
Feel free to address the folllowing:
One God. . .in three distinct persons:
the Son being subject to the Father, for the Son is sent by the Father (Jn 5:23, 36, 43),
the Spirit being subject to the Father, for the Spirit is sent by the Father in the Son's name (Jn 14:26), and
the Spirit being subject to the Son as well as the Father, for the Spirit is sent by the Son as well as the Father (Jn 15:26, 16:7, 14:26, Ac 2:33).
One doesn't send oneself, one sends another person.
It is Jesus in the above who shows three distinct persons in disclosing the mystery of the Trininty, which mystery is the heart of Christian faith in God.
And that mystery is three distinct persons in one God--the Son doing the will of the Father, and the Spirit doing the will of the Father and the Son.
You either believe Jn 1:1, 14, or you don't.
The Word was God. . .And the Word became flesh.
Begotten, not created, eternally was very God from very God
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