8 teachings from Jesus

[TibiasDad]

And if the holy spirit is equal why doesn't one have to know him? God sent Jesus, Jesus is his image. One sees many truths about God by knowing Jesus.

You’re dodging again, Keiw! Answer the question. Jesus said that we have to believe in two different people, the Father (the only true God), and the Son whom the Father sent! How can one be less than the other? Why would God have us believe in someone other than himself, someone lesser in being?


Doug

 

[Keiw1]

You’re dodging again, Keiw! Answer the question. Jesus said that we have to believe in two different people, the Father (the only true God), and the Son whom the Father sent! How can one be less than the other? Why would God have us believe in someone other than himself, someone lesser in being?


Doug

Because God set it up like that. God taught Jesus all things. God shares things with Jesus( not worship). God gave Jesus all authority in heaven and on earth and to judge. God( ancient of days) appointed Jesus to a kingship.

 

[Fred]

God shares things with Jesus( not worship)...God( ancient of days) appointed Jesus to a kingship.

In which Jesus is worshiped (Daniel 7:14).

 

[Keiw1]

In which Jesus is worshiped (Daniel 7:14).

There is no word worship at Dan 7:14

 

[Fred]

There is no word worship at Dan 7:14

Yes, there is.


TDaniel 7:14
o him was given dominion, honor, and a kingdom. All peoples, nations, and languages will worship him. His dominion is an eternal dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will not be destroyed. (EHV)

You do know what 'pelach' entails, right (Daniel 6:16)?

 

[TibiasDad]

Because God set it up like that. God taught Jesus all things. God shares things with Jesus( not worship). God gave Jesus all authority in heaven and on earth and to judge. God( ancient of days) appointed Jesus to a kingship.

Again, why is the question. Yahweh said the he would not share his glory with another (Isaiah 48:11), so how can the Son share the glory of the Father as Savior without being equal to God! Why would God say eternal life is found only by believing in both Father and Son?


Doug

 

[Keiw1]

Yes, there is.


TDaniel 7:14
o him was given dominion, honor, and a kingdom. All peoples, nations, and languages will worship him. His dominion is an eternal dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will not be destroyed. (EHV)

You do know what 'pelach' entails, right (Daniel 6:16)?

It says-serve him, not worship him. I just compared 7 other translations-all say serve or are servants--not a single one has worship--So again you try to deceive. We all know the origin of that.

 

[Keiw1]

Again, why is the question. Yahweh said the he would not share his glory with another (Isaiah 48:11), so how can the Son share the glory of the Father as Savior without being equal to God! Why would God say eternal life is found only by believing in both Father and Son?


Doug

Yes believing the Father is the only true God and believing in Jesus as the one sent forth from God= The messiah.

 

[TibiasDad]

Yes believing the Father is the only true God and believing in Jesus as the one sent forth from God= The messiah.

“I will not share my glory with another.” Yet he does with Jesus…hmmm! I guess “I will not” is a meaningless statement!

Doug

 

[Manfred]

Here are 8 teachings from Jesus, found in every translation on earth that clearly show who are his and who teach what he taught.

1) Matthew 6:33- Keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness, and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality) Matt 6

But Jesus is the righteousness of Christ.
You are seeking your own righteousness and missing the righteousness of God who is Christ.

So how are you seeking righteousness if you keep ignoring it!
1Co 1:30 And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption,

 

[Fred]

It says-serve him, not worship him. I just compared 7 other translations-all say serve or are servants--not a single one has worship--So again you try to deceive. We all know the origin of that.

Serving includes worshiping.

 

[Keiw1]

“I will not share my glory with another.” Yet he does with Jesus…hmmm! I guess “I will not” is a meaningless statement!

Doug

Jesus has his own glory.

 

[Keiw1]

But Jesus is the righteousness of Christ.
You are seeking your own righteousness and missing the righteousness of God who is Christ.

So how are you seeking righteousness if you keep ignoring it!
1Co 1:30 And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption,

One must be righteous. Heb 10:38-- My righteous one will live by faith)-- and faith without works is dead.

 

[Keiw1]

Serving includes worshiping.

Assuming does not make a truth.

 

[Fred]

Assuming does not make a truth.

Then why is it that the Jehovah's Witness affirm that this Aramaic word refers to worship?

 

[Keiw1]

Then why is it that the Jehovah's Witness affirm that this Aramaic word refers to worship?

They don't to Jesus.-- You seem to think you know an awful lot about JW,s--were you ever a baptized JW? See if you can be honest for once.

 

[TibiasDad]

Jesus has his own glory.

Yep, the Glory of his Father!

Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. John 17:5

A singular glory possessed by both Father and Son!

Doug

 

[Fred]

They don't to Jesus.--

That's why they are inconsistent.
Every other time it is used they associate it with worship - bit not with Jesus.

Pitiful.

You seem to think you know an awful lot about JW,s--

I'm just going by what they have affirmed. It's not difficult to look up and find out about.

were you ever a baptized JW?

Never.
I have never been inside a Kingdom Hall as well.

See if you can be honest for once.

You offered no proof that anything I was dishonest in what I have quoted from them.

 

[Keiw1]

Yep, the Glory of his Father!

Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. John 17:5

A singular glory possessed by both Father and Son!

Doug

Glory i had = Jesus' glory not the Fathers glory-i is singular-first person.

 

[Keiw1]

That's why they are inconsistent.
Every other time it is used they associate it with worship - bit not with Jesus.

Pitiful.



I'm just going by what they have affirmed. It's not difficult to look up and find out about.




Never.
I have never been inside a Kingdom Hall as well.




You offered no proof that anything I was dishonest in what I have quoted from them.

You have presented outdated teachings many x saying its what we teach.
No created being gets worship.