8 teachings from Jesus

[Keiw1]

Why would I pray the Lord's prayer and hallow my own ("our") name?

Jesus pointed all to his Father-YHWH(Jehovah) in everything. He gives the Father-YHWH(Jehovah) all credit.
Remember--I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father but through me. = The real Jesus sends his followers to his Father.

 

[civic]

There is only One Lord , One Sovereign !


Isa 45:5
"I Am the Lord, and there is no other;
Besides Me there is no God.

1 Cor 8:6
and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.

Eph 4:5
one Lord, one faith, one baptism

Rom 10:9-13
that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, "WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED." 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."
Paul above is quoting Joel 2:32 and declaring Jesus is that LORD(YHWH) one must call upon to be saved !

Joel 2:32
And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved; for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be deliverance, as the LORD has said, even among the survivors whom the LORD calls.

1 Cor 1:2
To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours:

Jude 4
For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Sovereign and Lord, Jesus Christ.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Keiw1]

There is only One Lord , One Sovereign !


Isa 45:5
"I Am the Lord, and there is no other;
Besides Me there is no God.

1 Cor 8:6
and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.

Eph 4:5
one Lord, one faith, one baptism

Rom 10:9-13
that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, "WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED." 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."
Paul above is quoting Joel 2:32 and declaring Jesus is that LORD(YHWH) one must call upon to be saved !

Joel 2:32
And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved; for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be deliverance, as the LORD has said, even among the survivors whom the LORD calls.

1 Cor 1:2
To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours:

Jude 4
For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Sovereign and Lord, Jesus Christ.

hope this helps !!!

In the real translating, the tetragramoton was in the OT = YHWH--replaced by wicked men, by satans will, with GOD or LORD--they had no right to remove Gods name where he willed it--LORD does not belong there, that is causing much confusion to mislead is why the name was removed by satans will.
See in your thinking its speaking of Jesus-In reality it speaks of YHWH(Jehovah)-- you are mislead by using altered translations.

 

[Keiw1]

What do you mean by "put it back?" It wasn't in the Greek mss. so there is no "putting it back."

The divine name KJV came out in 2015--they put Gods name in the NT where the OT is quoted, because it belongs there.
Back in the 300,s prior to Jerome translating the Latin Vulgate, he told the Catholic leader Gods name belonged in the NT in the spots the OT was quoted. I dont know if it was allowed. Most assuredly Jerome had originals to use.

 

[Keiw1]

What do you mean by "put it back?" It wasn't in the Greek mss. so there is no "putting it back."

What do you mean by "put it back?" It wasn't in the Greek mss. so there is no "putting it back."

Every scholar on earth knows Gods name was removed and replaced with titles--They had no right to remove it, it cause to mislead.

 

[Eleanor]

Every scholar on earth knows Gods name was removed and replaced with titles--They had no right to remove it, it cause to mislead.

Here, I fixed it for you.

The NT presents Jesus as God:

I. As the YHWH of the OT in

Mt 3:3, Lk 1:67-68, 76 (Isa 40:3) - Jesus is the YHWH of whom the voice calling in the wilderness (John the Baptist) prepared the way.

Ro 10:9, 13 (Joel 2:32) - Paul teaches Jesus is the YHWH of Joel's prophecy that "everyone who calls on the name of YHWH will be saved."

Heb 1:6 (Dt 32:43) - Heb quotes Moses' song referring to YHWH and says it applies to Jesus.

Rev 1:12-18 (Isa 44:6, 48:12) - the man in the vision is Jesus (1:18, 2:8) who identifies himself as the First and the Last which is YHWH identification of himself.

Rev 21:6, 22:12-13) (Rev 1:8) - the man in the vision (Jesus) identifies himself as the Alpha and Omega of Rev 1:8, which is YHWH.

Rev 21:5-7 (Rev 20:11-13) -Jesus, the one on the throne (Rev 20:11-13 with Jn 5:22, 27, 9:39), is God (Rev 21:7).

The Elohim and YHWH who created all things (Ge 1:1, Is 44:24, Jer 10:16) is Jesus (Jn 1:3, Col 1:16-17, Heb 1:2b, 10).

Jesus is
Immanuel (Isa 7:14, Mt 1:23) "God with us;"
Mighty God, Everlasting Father" (Isa 9:6);
God who came to save (Isa 35:4-6, 43:11),
YHWH Adonai of Eze 34:11-16 who is the shepherd of the sheep (Jn 10:11-15).

II. Jews understood that Jesus said he was God, seeking many times to stone him for blasphemy (Mk 2:3-7, Jn 6:41-42, 10:30-33, 5:18, 8:58-59, 19:7--Lev 24:16).

III. Paul said we are waiting for the glorious appearing of 'the great God and Savior of us Jesus Christ." (Tit 2:13)

IV. The NT testifies that Jesus is not an angel (Heb 1:4-14), that his "name" is Son--a name to which no angel can lay claim (Heb 1:4), that he is begotten (giving him the same nature as God, divine) and that he is the only begotten of God, he has no brothers like himself, divine.

V. The NT presents worship of Jesus together with his Father:
To the gods of paganism (Ac 17:22-27), Paul opposes one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ (1 Co 8:5-6) to be worshipped, and shows
worship of Jesus (Php 2:10),
prayer to Jesus (Ac 7:59, 9:14, 2 Co 12:8, 1 Co 1:2, 16:22, Rev 22:20)
praise to Jesus (Ro 9:5, 2 Tim 4:8, 2 Pe 3;18, Rev 1:5-6, 5:10, 7:13)
desired divine blessing of Jesus (1 Th 3:11-13, 2 Th 3:5, 16)
all of which are reserved to God alone (Ex 20:3-5, Mt 4:9-10, Ac 10:25-26, Rev 19:10, 22:8-9).

VI. The NT presents Jesus as having the attributes of God:
eternal existence - Jn 1:1, 2, 1 Jn 1:2, Rev 1:8, 22:13,
omnipresence - Mt 18:20, 28:20, Ac 18:10.
omniscience - Mt 9:4, Jn 2:24-25, 6:64, 21:17b, 16:30, Col 2:3,
omnipotence - Mt 28:18, Jn 3:35, 6:39b, 40b, 54b, 11:25, 13:3, Php 3:21, Col 1:17, 19, 2:9, Heb 1:3, 10-12, Rev 1:8, 21:5 (Da 7:14),
immutability - Heb 1:10-12, 13:8,
providence - Lk 10:22, Jn 3:35, 17:2, Eph 1:22, Col 1:17, Heb 1:3,
forgiveness of sin - Mk 2:7-11, Ac 5:31, Col 3:13,
judges sin - Mt 25:31-32, Jn 5:22, 27, Ac 10:42, 17:31, Ro 2:16, 14:10, 2 Co 5:10, 2 Tim 4:1,
gives eternal life - Jn 5:21, 6:54, 57, 11:25-26 1 Co 15:45,
source of eternal life - Jn 1:4, 5:26, 14:6, Ac 3:15, 1 Jn 1:1-2, 5:11-12, 20, Rev 1:18.

Confession that "Jesus is Lord" means to acknowledge that Jesus is a person to be invoked, trusted, known, praised and adored as God the Father is (Jn 5:23); i.e., as divine.


The NT witnesses throughout that Jesus is God.

 

[Keiw1]

Utter nonsense. So now you speak for every scholar on earth? You're way too big for your britches son. It wasn't in the Greek mss. so there is no "putting it back."

What do you mean by "put it back?" It wasn't in the Greek mss. so there is no "putting it back."

Jerome, who had originals told the Catholic leader Gods name belongs in the NT, prior to his Latin Vulgate. I don't know if it was allowed. But think realistically, God inspired his name in the OT almost 6800 spots, Why? Because he wants it there, He wants his name known and used. Over 200 x quoted in the NT where the name belongs in the OT, So YES God wants his name in those spots as well.
It will not end up well for those who stand in opposition to that name.
1Kings 8:43--God wants-ALL- to know his name.

 

[Keiw1]

Here, I fixed it for you.

The NT presents Jesus as God:

I. As the YHWH of the OT in

Mt 3:3, Lk 1:67-68, 76 (Isa 40:3) - Jesus is the YHWH of whom the voice calling in the wilderness (John the Baptist) prepared the way.

Ro 10:9, 13 (Joel 2:32) - Paul teaches Jesus is the YHWH of Joel's prophecy that "everyone who calls on the name of YHWH will be saved."

Heb 1:6 (Dt 32:43) - Heb quotes Moses' song referring to YHWH and says it applies to Jesus.

Rev 1:12-18 (Isa 44:6, 48:12) - the man in the vision is Jesus (1:18, 2:8) who identifies himself as the First and the Last which is YHWH identification of himself.

Rev 21:6, 22:12-13) (Rev 1:8) - the man in the vision (Jesus) identifies himself as the Alpha and Omega of Rev 1:8, which is YHWH.

Rev 21:5-7 (Rev 20:11-13) -Jesus, the one on the throne (Rev 20:11-13 with Jn 5:22, 27, 9:39), is God (Rev 21:7).

The Elohim and YHWH who created all things (Ge 1:1, Is 44:24, Jer 10:16) is Jesus (Jn 1:3, Col 1:16-17, Heb 1:2b, 10).

Jesus is
Immanuel (Isa 7:14, Mt 1:23) "God with us;"
Mighty God, Everlasting Father" (Isa 9:6);
God who came to save (Isa 35:4-6, 43:11),
YHWH Adonai of Eze 34:11-16 who is the shepherd of the sheep (Jn 10:11-15).

II. Jews understood that Jesus said he was God, seeking many times to stone him for blasphemy (Mk 2:3-7, Jn 6:41-42, 10:30-33, 5:18, 8:58-59, 19:7--Lev 24:16).

III. Paul said we are waiting for the glorious appearing of 'the great God and Savior of us Jesus Christ." (Tit 2:13)

IV. The NT testifies that Jesus is not an angel (Heb 1:4-14), that his "name" is Son--a name to which no angel can lay claim (Heb 1:4), that he is begotten (giving him the same nature as God, divine) and that he is the only begotten of God, he has no brothers like himself, divine.

V. The NT presents worship of Jesus together with his Father:
To the gods of paganism (Ac 17:22-27), Paul opposes one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ (1 Co 8:5-6) to be worshipped, and shows
worship of Jesus (Php 2:10),
prayer to Jesus (Ac 7:59, 9:14, 2 Co 12:8, 1 Co 1:2, 16:22, Rev 22:20)
praise to Jesus (Ro 9:5, 2 Tim 4:8, 2 Pe 3;18, Rev 1:5-6, 5:10, 7:13)
desired divine blessing of Jesus (1 Th 3:11-13, 2 Th 3:5, 16)
all of which are reserved to God alone (Ex 20:3-5, Mt 4:9-10, Ac 10:25-26, Rev 19:10, 22:8-9).

VI. The NT presents Jesus as having the attributes of God:
eternal existence - Jn 1:1, 2, 1 Jn 1:2, Rev 1:8, 22:13,
omnipresence - Mt 18:20, 28:20, Ac 18:10.
omniscience - Mt 9:4, Jn 2:24-25, 6:64, 21:17b, 16:30, Col 2:3,
omnipotence - Mt 28:18, Jn 3:35, 6:39b, 40b, 54b, 11:25, 13:3, Php 3:21, Col 1:17, 19, 2:9, Heb 1:3, 10-12, Rev 1:8, 21:5 (Da 7:14),
immutability - Heb 1:10-12, 13:8,
providence - Lk 10:22, Jn 3:35, 17:2, Eph 1:22, Col 1:17, Heb 1:3,
forgiveness of sin - Mk 2:7-11, Ac 5:31, Col 3:13,
judges sin - Mt 25:31-32, Jn 5:22, 27, Ac 10:42, 17:31, Ro 2:16, 14:10, 2 Co 5:10, 2 Tim 4:1,
gives eternal life - Jn 5:21, 6:54, 57, 11:25-26 1 Co 15:45,
source of eternal life - Jn 1:4, 5:26, 14:6, Ac 3:15, 1 Jn 1:1-2, 5:11-12, 20, Rev 1:18.

Confession that "Jesus is Lord" means to acknowledge that Jesus is a person to be invoked, trusted, known, praised and adored as God the Father is (Jn 5:23); i.e., as divine.


The NT witnesses throughout that Jesus is God.

You are mistaken--Jesus=( John 20:17, Rev 3:12) Paul= 2Cor 1:3, Coll 1:3, Eph 1:3-- Peter=1Peter 1:3--All teach Jesus has a God, his Father. They would not contradict themselves. Translating errors and twisting what is said causes the contradiction.

 

[Eleanor]

You are mistaken--Jesus=( John 20:17, Rev 3:12) Paul= 2Cor 1:3, Coll 1:3, Eph 1:3-- Peter=1Peter 1:3--All teach Jesus has a God, his Father. They would not contradict themselves. Translating errors and twisting what is said causes the contradiction.

Falls somewhat short of addressing the Biblical presentation in post #71.

 

[Keiw1]

Falls somewhat short of addressing the Biblical presentation in post #71.

Not at all, i shared truth, the real gospel. Jesus is Gods son= not God. A son has a beginning. God always was and always will be.

 

[Eleanor]

Not at all, i shared truth, the real gospel. Jesus is Gods son= not God. A son has a beginning. God always was and always will be.

Therein is the problem: you think you've addressed the NT testimony in disagreement with you in post #71.

 

[Keiw1]

Therein is the problem: you think you've addressed the NT testimony in disagreement with you in post #71.

Jesus own words prove your faulty reasoning on matters= John 17:3--This means eternal life, their knowing you(Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Jesus Christ.
See there are 2 beings one must know= The ONLY TRUE GOD=the Father, and the one he sent=Jesus-clearly shows as well, God did not come down here, he sent another.
Jesus warned that ones who think they stand up for him, do things against the true followers-Why? Because they do not know the one who sent him( Father=THE ONLY TRUE GOD)-John 15:20-21)-- You see it takes believing Jesus over the faulty reasonings taught through the centuries out of the altered translations. Most outright refuse.

 

[Eleanor]

Jesus own words prove your faulty reasoning on matters= John 17:3--This means eternal life, their knowing you(Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Jesus Christ.
See there are 2 beings one must know= The ONLY TRUE GOD=the Father, and the one he sent=Jesus-clearly shows as well, God did not come down here, he sent another.
Jesus warned that ones who think they stand up for him, do things against the true followers-Why? Because they do not know the one who sent him( Father=THE ONLY TRUE GOD)-John 15:20-21)-- You see it takes believing Jesus over the faulty reasonings taught through the centuries out of the altered translations. Most outright refuse.

Non-responsive to the Biblical demonstration of post #71.

 

[Keiw1]

Non-responsive to the Biblical demonstration of post #71.

Not wise to keep on throwing away the truth i share. You see if you listened to God he told all--Be like the Bereans and make sure of all things. The wise listen to him and check.

 

[Eleanor]

Not wise to keep on throwing away the truth i share. You see if you listened to God he told all--Be like the Bereans and make sure of all things. The wise listen to him and check.

But it is wise to ignore the testimony of Scripture in post #71?

Methinks you have it backwards regarding what is God's truth.

 

[Keiw1]

But it is wise to ignore the testimony of Scripture in post #71?

Methinks you have it backwards regarding what is God's truth.

Does your theory fit Jesus? John 17:1-6,26--a prayer to his Father-verse 3-This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Jesus Christ---2 major truths here--The Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD and God did not come to earth he sent another named Jesus as a mortal. Verse 6=YHWH(Jehovah) verse 26 = YHWH(Jehovah)
Best to believe Jesus.

 

[civic]

Does your theory fit Jesus? John 17:1-6,26--a prayer to his Father-verse 3-This means eternal life, their knowing you( Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Jesus Christ---2 major truths here--The Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD and God did not come to earth he sent another named Jesus as a mortal. Verse 6=YHWH(Jehovah) verse 26 = YHWH(Jehovah)
Best to believe Jesus.

And Christ is the One Lord, the Only Sovereign and Lord also called the True God and Eternal Life.

There is not a single verse where Eternal Life is attributed to the Father without Son. There are over 50 attributed to the Son without the Father.

So much for unitarianism it’s a major failure and costs one their eternal life which if forfeited by believing in a false christ.

hope this helps !!!!

 

[Keiw1]

And Christ is the One Lord, the Only Sovereign and Lord also called the True God and Eternal Life.

There is not a single verse where Eternal Life is attributed to the Father without Son. There are over 50 attributed to the Son without the Father.

So much for unitarianism it’s a major failure and costs one their eternal life which if forfeited by believing in a false christ.

hope this helps !!!!

You will find out its the opposite. And its satan( 2Cor 11:12-15) who is blinding ( 2 Cor 4:4) your eyes, through his house dived( trinity religionssssss) that will not stand. They can't seem to understand this simple bible milk= a true mark of Jesus' one religion=1Cor 1:10--Unity of thought( all of Gods 1 truth) no division.

 

[Eleanor]

You will find out its the opposite. And its satan( 2Cor 11:12-15) who is blinding ( 2 Cor 4:4) your eyes, through his house dived( trinity religionssssss) that will not stand. They can't seem to understand this simple bible milk= a true mark of Jesus' one religion=1Cor 1:10--Unity of thought( all of Gods 1 truth) no division.

Who is blinding your eyes to"

"And the Word was God. . .And the Word (who was God) became flesh and dwelt among us. (Jn 1:1, Jn 1:14)?

 

[civic]

You will find out its the opposite. And its satan( 2Cor 11:12-15) who is blinding ( 2 Cor 4:4) your eyes, through his house dived( trinity religionssssss) that will not stand. They can't seem to understand this simple bible milk= a true mark of Jesus' one religion=1Cor 1:10--Unity of thought( all of Gods 1 truth) no division.

I can promise you when it comes to Christ I'm not the blind one as my eyes are wide open to His True identity as God, its your eyes whom the god of this world has blinded and veiled the truth about Christ.

And if you do not repent of your false christ who is not God then as Jesus promises in John 8:24 you will be without a Savior for your sins and dead in them. Paul says the same thing in Romans 10:8-14 and Philippians 2 as does John in his epistle.

hope this helps !!!