7 Characteristics of false Teachers

[ElectedbyHim]

Most likely from English, but such an undertaking to accomplish that is astounding. Some languages do not have certain words that are in other languages thus takes a lot of hard work and study to find similar wording.
I can't read 300 different languages to know if the name is different in those languages. JW.org has the translations, any can take the time to look it up for self if truly interested.
Why are you specifically targeting me to put JW under my name when no one else has there denomination under their name?

Are you suggesting the JW translation is the only truthful translation?

 

[ElectedbyHim]

It says Reformed. That is a Christian theology, not a religion. Maybe you need to crack open a few books? Something besides the Watchtower?

Ouch!

 

[makesends]

Most likely from English, but such an undertaking to accomplish that is astounding. Some languages do not have certain words that are in other languages thus takes a lot of hard work and study to find similar wording.
I can't read 300 different languages to know if the name is different in those languages. JW.org has the translations, any can take the time to look it up for self if truly interested.
Why are you specifically targeting me to put JW under my name when no one else has there denomination under their name?

You are the one claiming 300 different translations, all NWT. That doesn't make sense to me.

If you can't explain it, maybe, at least, you can do the looking to find out what word is JW-appropriate for God's name in at least one or two of those three hundred. You know I'm not going to do it, because I don't really care; I'm assuming there's an inconsistency in your logic.

Ball's in your court.

 

[makesends]

There are no originals left-There is the Latin Vulgate-4th century. Translated from a previous corrupted latin translation. And the Codex sinacticus( 4th century)--both Catholicism works. There are a very small number of fragments that are older.
Yes those 300 translations would still be called the NEW world translation( in their language)

I didn't say, "originals". I said "original languages". But even when I have said "originals", I think it would at least be mannerly to go with what I meant —perhaps "copies of the originals", aka, "originals" (for short). Your answer above pursues a red herring.

If the 300+ are translations from those original languages, I would think they could rightly be called, "JW-approved translations", but NWT only if translating the English NWT which is, apparently, to you the only God-authorized translation. But call them what you like.

My question is, then, if the main difference you are arguing here is the name of God, how do you get that nuance across into those other languages? I assume, by your many posts, that the NWT has 7000+ places that rightly pronounce the name of God. How do you translate YAHWAH into the Nahuatl tongue? I'm wondering if the JW has migrated into the whistling language of La Gomera.

 

[makesends]

Most likely from English, but such an undertaking to accomplish that is astounding. Some languages do not have certain words that are in other languages thus takes a lot of hard work and study to find similar wording.

Of course it's an astounding undertaking.

I can't read 300 different languages to know if the name is different in those languages. JW.org has the translations, any can take the time to look it up for self if truly interested.
Why are you specifically targeting me to put JW under my name when no one else has there denomination under their name?

Because your statements are not of themselves the same in meaning as they would be coming from anyone else.

 

[Viking123]

Are you really and truly familiar with the work of every scholar on earth? A great many of them have been dead for centuries. Have you read the work of every scholar on earth? Do you see how you make your own posts and what you say in them worthless? The name Jehovah is nowhere in the original manuscripts, or any of the manuscripts and copies of manuscripts that translators work from. Do you even know how translations are arrived at? The JW Bible being an exception and probably the Open Theists Bible the REV, and probably a few others put out by cults, who didn't bother with the heavy lifting that went on centuries ago.

There was no "J" in the Hebrew alphabet so Jehovah is a transliteration. Therefore, not the same name God gave himself when he spoke with Moses. So even the JW Bible is changing his name.

But, the trolling needs to stop. This is a Christian forum.

There is no Job, Jeremiah, etc but they are in every English translation. Jehovah is the true living God.
Thye divine name kjv( 2015) used these sources- 1) scriptures by the institute for scriptural research--2)the Exegesis by Herb Jahn--3) New Englishmans Hebrew concordance by George V. Wigram.--Putting Gods name back in the over 7000 places it belongs. 65 years after the Nwt put it back. 65 years after all the religions condemned the Nwt.

 

[Carbon]

You listen to words of other men who have no clue.

Haha, Oh, they have a clue. Read the history my friend.

 

[Viking123]

It is quite telling that you think passages like Acts 2:21 are referring to "name" is the sense of a given name (e.g., Isaac). I think calling on the "name" of the Lord is a reference to the meaning of that name and/or his reputation, that is, his faithfulness as messiah.

Jesus shows in his Lords prayer-The #1 issue for all involved is his Fathers name. Gods bible clearly teaches one MUST praise that name, Psalm 96:2-99:3--100:4--103:1
Call on that name- Psalm 99:6-105:1-
give thanks to that name-Psalm 97:12
Exodus 9:16-have name declared in all the Earth
1Kings 8:43- Name must be known by all
Rom 10:13-14-- Name must be used

Now you see why satan had that name removed and replaced with titles. Its a sad reality that FEW know the true living God, and Jesus assures at John 17:3 one must know( Father) as THE ONLY TRUE GOD to get eternal life and know Jesus.

 

[Viking123]

Are you suggesting the JW translation is the only truthful translation?

God corrected translating=Nwt. All others are done out of Catholicism translating. Jerome translated his Vulgate out of a previous corrupted latin translation, 4 men translated the Codex sinacticus, Write ups say Constantine took the only copy and removed certain passages. I truly believe he corrupted others as well.
Here is a fact few know-The JW leaders were allowed into the Catholic Archives late 60,s or early 70,s, they came out with 100% proof-the 3 witness bearers are the spirit, water and blood--not the Father, son and holy spirit as error translations have. They were never allowed back into the archives.

 

[Viking123]

You are the one claiming 300 different translations, all NWT. That doesn't make sense to me.

If you can't explain it, maybe, at least, you can do the looking to find out what word is JW-appropriate for God's name in at least one or two of those three hundred. You know I'm not going to do it, because I don't really care; I'm assuming there's an inconsistency in your logic.

Ball's in your court.

Jehovah is the only name needed to be known by one speaking English, unless they know other languages.

 

[Viking123]

I didn't say, "originals". I said "original languages". But even when I have said "originals", I think it would at least be mannerly to go with what I meant —perhaps "copies of the originals", aka, "originals" (for short). Your answer above pursues a red herring.

If the 300+ are translations from those original languages, I would think they could rightly be called, "JW-approved translations", but NWT only if translating the English NWT which is, apparently, to you the only God-authorized translation. But call them what you like.

My question is, then, if the main difference you are arguing here is the name of God, how do you get that nuance across into those other languages? I assume, by your many posts, that the NWT has 7000+ places that rightly pronounce the name of God. How do you translate YAHWAH into the Nahuatl tongue? I'm wondering if the JW has migrated into the whistling language of La Gomera.

I don't have time to look it up. when you could just as easily if you were really interested.

 

[Viking123]

Haha, Oh, they have a clue. Read the history my friend.

I did-All translations with Gods name removed gives support to satans will over Gods will. Pretty simple. Which version would Jesus support? Luke 22:42)--Which version would a true follower support( Matt 7:21)

 

[ElectedbyHim]

God corrected translating=Nwt. All others are done out of Catholicism translating. Jerome translated his Vulgate out of a previous corrupted latin translation, 4 men translated the Codex sinacticus, Write ups say Constantine took the only copy and removed certain passages. I truly believe he corrupted others as well.
Here is a fact few know-The JW leaders were allowed into the Catholic Archives late 60,s or early 70,s, they came out with 100% proof-the 3 witness bearers are the spirit, water and blood--not the Father, son and holy spirit as error translations have. They were never allowed back into the archives.

You did not answer the question.

Yes or no will do.

 

[Arial]

There is no Job, Jeremiah, etc but they are in every English translation. Jehovah is the true living God.
Thye divine name kjv( 2015) used these sources- 1) scriptures by the institute for scriptural research--2)the Exegesis by Herb Jahn--3) New Englishmans Hebrew concordance by George V. Wigram.--Putting Gods name back in the over 7000 places it belongs. 65 years after the Nwt put it back. 65 years after all the religions condemned the Nwt.

Address the content of the posts you are responding to or you will be out on your ear.

 

[Viking123]

Address the content of the posts you are responding to or you will be out on your ear.

Jesus said we would be hated--I don't answer demands.

 

[makesends]

Jehovah is the only name needed to be known by one speaking English, unless they know other languages.

So "Jehovah" is the correct English pronunciation. What is it in Whistle?

Get my point? Is it the word, 'Jehovah', that makes the translation NWT?

 

[Carbon]

I did-All translations with Gods name removed gives support to satans will over Gods will. Pretty simple. Which version would Jesus support? Luke 22:42)--Which version would a true follower support( Matt 7:21)

I'm sorry but I personally dont think you would know which versions are corrupt or not, because your brain has been poluted for so long from the JW doctrines.

 

[DialecticSkeptic]

Jesus shows in his Lords prayer-The #1 issue for all involved is his Fathers name. Gods bible clearly teaches one MUST praise that name, Psalm 96:2-99:3--100:4--103:1
Call on that name- Psalm 99:6-105:1-
give thanks to that name-Psalm 97:12
Exodus 9:16-have name declared in all the Earth
1Kings 8:43- Name must be known by all
Rom 10:13-14-- Name must be used

Now you see why satan had that name removed and replaced with titles. Its a sad reality that FEW know the true living God, and Jesus assures at John 17:3 one must know( Father) as THE ONLY TRUE GOD to get eternal life and know Jesus.

You are repeating yourself without addressing my criticism. Here, too, you are treating these passages as if they are "referring to ‘name’ [in] the sense of a given name (e.g., Isaac). I think calling on the ‘name’ of the Lord is a reference to the meaning of that name and/or his reputation, that is, his faithfulness as messiah."

Please address the specific criticism.

 

[Viking123]

So "Jehovah" is the correct English pronunciation. What is it in Whistle?

Get my point? Is it the word, 'Jehovah', that makes the translation NWT?

God corrected error filled translations that removed his name against his will. Its those using the altered translations that condemned the Nwt. They made teachings easier to understand as well. The KJV with thee, thou and the such doesn't fit today.

 

[Viking123]

I'm sorry but I personally dont think you would know which versions are corrupt or not, because your brain has been poluted for so long from the JW doctrines.

Its 100% fact of life Gods name was removed against his will corrupting those translations. Its not to hard to understand.