Who are they, and where have they come from?

[XrzrX]

But it wasn't just the physical destruction of the temple or the loss of life that took place in 70 a.d.. What is the most terrible thing you can imagine? The absolute worst. Well, I certainly can't speak for you, but for me it would be God saying to me, "I am done with you. " and walk away from me.

Well that is what the judgement of 70 a.d. was to the Jews who had been his covenant people since he brought them out of Egypt. He was their God, and now he wasn't. They had to worship him at the temple in Jerusalem. That is where he met with them, accepted their sacrifices and forgave their sins, and answered their prayers, and spoke to them through prophets and priests. No more prophets, No more priests, no more relationship with him, no more protection or provision of comfort. No more temple. Jerusalem trampled on.

That had never happened before and it will never happen again. Only those who reject Jesus, as the Jews did, will face his wrath. And that wrath does not last for seven years, that is not what the great tribulation is. That is not the judgement. His wrath will do its work in an instant by the breath of his mouth.

Bingo!

 

[XrzrX]

Yes, i would consider it as future prophecy.

Some say it was the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 AD....which we know the Jews have seen more severe tribulation prior to the event and after the event...the holocost is an example.

Everything Arial said, and I would just posit some scripture that may also put that in context. The verse I mentioned cites the "last days" which would strongly allude to the end of the Covenantal period, then the Song of Moses immediately after the verse., where in Deut 32:43 it introduced "the 'nations' joining the song".. and states that's when God's 'vengeance' comes into play. "[He] will render vengeance to His adversaries." In Luke Jesus verbatim states in relation to the destruction of Jerusalem, "For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled." Luke 21:22.. and then in Rev, during the 7 plagues, saints are singing the Song of Moses Rev 15:3. So, this may be something to consider.

 

[Marty]

But it wasn't just the physical destruction of the temple or the loss of life that took place in 70 a.d.. What is the most terrible thing you can imagine? The absolute worst. Well, I certainly can't speak for you, but for me it would be God saying to me, "I am done with you. " and walk away from me.

Well that is what the judgement of 70 a.d. was to the Jews who had been his covenant people since he brought them out of Egypt. He was their God, and now he wasn't. They had to worship him at the temple in Jerusalem. That is where he met with them, accepted their sacrifices and forgave their sins, and answered their prayers, and spoke to them through prophets and priests. No more prophets, No more priests, no more relationship with him, no more protection or provision of comfort. No more temple. Jerusalem trampled on.

That had never happened before and it will never happen again. Only those who reject Jesus, as the Jews did, will face his wrath. And that wrath does not last for seven years, that is not what the great tribulation is. That is not the judgement. His wrath will do its work in an instant by the breath of his mouth.

Yes amen that’s what the worst thing was


It’s just like hell isnt literal fire it’s seeing God and realizing that you chose not to dwell with Him forever it was your own choice

 

[Hazelelponi]

I guess hell is the next topic...