Where was the Sabbath Abolished?

[Hobie]

If the Sabbath was abolished, there would be many verses and much text to show it, yet there is none. The apostles would have had many discussions and the councils at Jerusalem would have written at least one with a determination of it being abolished and yet there is nothing. Paul exhorts in Corinthians that Circumcision is nothing in comparison to the Ten Commandments.

1 Corinthians 7:19
Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

Since there are more than forty verses and up to ten verses at a time clearly stating that Circumcision of the flesh is a yoke of bondage and abolished, how many scriptures would you expect stating the Sabbath was abolished or changed to Sunday? Perhaps seventy or more?The fact is there is not even one verse that says, 'The Sabbath is abolished' or is now Sunday.

Acts 15:1-19 The Council at Jerusalem​

1 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. 3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. 4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.
5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”
6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”
12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. 13 When they finished, James spoke up. “Brothers,” he said, “listen to me. 14 Simon[a] has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:
16 “‘After this I will return
and rebuild David’s fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
and I will restore it,
17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things’[b]—
18 things known from long ago.[c]
19 “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”

The Ten Commandments are the only thing that God personally spoke and then personally etched His Law into stone tablets with His own finger. Yet there is not one clear scripture or commandment from Christ or even a direction from a apostle or as you can see from the Jerusalem Council to abolish the Sabbath anywhere in scripture, just a couple of erroneous assumptions. One of God's Commandments supposedly changes or is abolished and we do not have even one clear verse. Why not? The answer is simple. It was never abolished or changed to Sunday by the authority of God so no such scripture exists..

 

[Fred]

If the Sabbath was abolished, there would be many verses and much text to show it, yet there is none.

If the Old Covenant 7th day Sabbath command was still to be obeyed by all Christians, then there would be at least one example from the New Covenant that it is still binding. However, there are none.

It's interesting how all the other 9 commands from the Decalogue are repeated in the New Covenant for the Christian to obey, but the one command that SDA's and others focus on is absent.

 

[Fred]

1 Corinthians 7:19
Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.

Since there are more than forty verses and up to ten verses at a time clearly stating that Circumcision of the flesh is a yoke of bondage and abolished, how many scriptures would you expect stating the Sabbath was abolished

Since physical circumcision has been abolished then so too is the command to obey the 7th day Sabbath.
If a male child was 8 days old on the Sabbath the circumcision took priority. It was to be done.

 

[prism]

It wasn't abolished, it was fulfilled in Christ...

Matthew 5:18 KJV
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

 

[Mercy_Shown]

If the Old Covenant 7th day Sabbath command was still to be obeyed by all Christians, then there would be at least one example from the New Covenant that it is still binding. However, there are none.

It's interesting how all the other 9 commands from the Decalogue are repeated in the New Covenant for the Christian to obey, but the one command that SDA's and others focus on is absent.

I think you have hit on something here. Keeping a sabbath is, of itself, not a problem, but it is the inordinate focus on it to the exclusion of the "weightier matters of the law": judgment, mercy, and faith that is a problem.

When we make a single component of human effort a part of our salvation we are leaning on a broken reed.

 

[donadams]

I think you have hit on something here. Keeping a sabbath is, of itself, not a problem, but it is the inordinate focus on it to the exclusion of the "weightier matters of the law": judgment, mercy, and faith that is a problem.

When we make a single component of human effort a part of our salvation we are leaning on a broken reed.

It is a problem!

“Keeping a sabbath is, of itself, not a problem”

The old law pointed to Christ, and the gospel to keep them is to say Christ has not come, and the gospel has not been preached!

It would be offensive to christ and the pius ears of Christians!

Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, Cantate Domino, 1441: “The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and teaches that the matter pertaining to the law of the Old Testament, of the Mosaic Law, which are divided into ceremonies, sacred rites, sacrifices, and sacraments, because they were established to signify something in the future, although they were suited to divine worship at that time, after our Lord’s coming had been signified by them, ceased, and the sacraments of the New Testament began; and that whoever, even after the passion, placed hope in these matters of the law and submitted himself to them as necessary for salvation, as if faith in Christ could not save without them, sinned mortally. Yet it does not deny that after the passion of Christ up to the promulgation of the Gospel they could have been observed until they were believed to be in no way necessary for salvation; but after the promulgation of the Gospel it asserts that they cannot be observed without the loss of eternal salvation. All, therefore, who after that time (the promulgation of the Gospel) observe circumcision and the Sabbath and the other requirements of the law, it declares alien to the Christian faith and not in the least fit to participate in eternal salvation, unless someday they recover from these errors.”


Pope Benedict XIV in Ex Quo:

"The first consideration is that the ceremonies of the Mosaic Law *were abrogated* by the coming of Christ and that they can no longer be observed without sin after the promulgation of the Gospel. "

Pope Pius XII in Mystici Corporis:

"29. And first of all, by the death of our Redeemer, the New Testament took the place of the Old Law which had been abolished; then the Law of Christ together with its mysteries, enactments, institutions, and sacred rites was ratified for the whole world in the blood of Jesus Christ. For, while our Divine Savior was preaching in a restricted area - He was not sent but to the sheep that were lost of the House of Israel [30] - the Law and the Gospel were together in force; [31] but on the gibbet of His death Jesus made void the Law with its decrees [32] fastened the handwriting of the Old Testament to the Cross, [33] establishing the New Testament in His blood shed for the whole human race.[34] "To such an extent, then," says St. Leo the Great, speaking of the Cross of our Lord, "*was there effected a transfer from the Law to the Gospel, from the Synagogue to the Church, from the many sacrifices to one Victim, that, as Our Lord expired, that mystical veil which shut off the innermost part of the temple and its sacred secret was rent violently from top to bottom.*" [35]

30. *On the Cross then the Old Law died, soon to be buried and to be a bearer of death*, [36] in order to give way to the New Testament of which Christ had chosen the Apostles as qualified ministers; [37] and although He had been constituted the Head of the whole human family in the womb of the Blessed Virgin, it is by the power of the Cross that our Savior exercises fully the office itself of Head of His Church. "

New covenant / new creation

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

 

[Josheb]

Where was the Sabbath Abolished?

Calvary

 

[Mercy_Shown]

It is a problem!

“Keeping a sabbath is, of itself, not a problem”

The old law pointed to Christ, and the gospel to keep them is to say Christ has not come, and the gospel has not been preached!

There is an old covenant but I can't find an "old law" mentioned in the bible. Perhaps you are thinking of the covenant laws made with Israel concerning the ceremonies pointing to Christ and the civil laws governing everyday life for the children of Israel. Those laws came into being at the formation of Israel. However, God's eternal law predates the covenant laws and can be found before the Sinai Covenant occurred.

Keeping a sabbath is not the issue, making it salvific is. No one is to judge another about sabbath days whether one keeps such a period or whether or keeps no sabbath at all. To pearl clutch over a person keeping the sabbath is as much a focus on it as those that tie it to the salvation of others.

It would be offensive to christ and the pius ears of Christians!

Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, Cantate Domino, 1441: “The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and teaches that the matter pertaining to the law of the Old Testament, of the Mosaic Law, which are divided into ceremonies, sacred rites, sacrifices, and sacraments, because they were established to signify something in the future, although they were suited to divine worship at that time, after our Lord’s coming had been signified by them, ceased, and the sacraments of the New Testament began; and that whoever, even after the passion, placed hope in these matters of the law and submitted himself to them as necessary for salvation, as if faith in Christ could not save without them, sinned mortally. Yet it does not deny that after the passion of Christ up to the promulgation of the Gospel they could have been observed until they were believed to be in no way necessary for salvation; but after the promulgation of the Gospel it asserts that they cannot be observed without the loss of eternal salvation. All, therefore, who after that time (the promulgation of the Gospel) observe circumcision and the Sabbath and the other requirements of the law, it declares alien to the Christian faith and not in the least fit to participate in eternal salvation, unless someday they recover from these errors.”

This does not refer to the eternal law of God which is to love God with all your heart and your neighbor a yourself. This will never change. The Ten Commandments were a simplified version of this eternal law with the first 4 giving instruction on loving God and the last 6 on loving your neighbor.

Pope Benedict XIV in Ex Quo:

"The first consideration is that the ceremonies of the Mosaic Law *were abrogated* by the coming of Christ and that they can no longer be observed without sin after the promulgation of the Gospel. "

The Ten Commandments were not part of the mosaic law. They preexisted the mosaic law. However, they were simplified intructions of the eternal law of God.

 

[donadams]

There is an old covenant but I can't find an "old law" mentioned in the bible. Perhaps you are thinking of the covenant laws made with Israel concerning the ceremonies pointing to Christ and the civil laws governing everyday life for the children of Israel. Those laws came into being at the formation of Israel. However, God's eternal law predates the covenant laws and can be found before the Sinai Covenant occurred.

Keeping a sabbath is not the issue, making it salvific is. No one is to judge another about sabbath days whether one keeps such a period or whether or keeps no sabbath at all. To pearl clutch over a person keeping the sabbath is as much a focus on it as those that tie it to the salvation of others.

This does not refer to the eternal law of God which is to love God with all your heart and your neighbor a yourself. This will never change. The Ten Commandments were a simplified version of this eternal law with the first 4 giving instruction on loving God and the last 6 on loving your neighbor.

The Ten Commandments were not part of the mosaic law. They preexisted the mosaic law. However, they were simplified intructions of the eternal law of God.

Do you have a list of the Ten Commandments from scripture?

 

[jeremiah1five]

If the Old Covenant 7th day Sabbath command was still to be obeyed by all Christians, then there would be at least one example from the New Covenant that it is still binding. However, there are none.

It's interesting how all the other 9 commands from the Decalogue are repeated in the New Covenant for the Christian to obey, but the one command that SDA's and others focus on is absent.

It wasn't for Gentile Christians to obey. The New Covenant writings were written to Jewish Christians and that's why the 9 Moral Commandments are mentioned. And there are other references of the Old Testament Law that are mentioned to be obeyed or observed such as the principle of sowing and reaping.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Since physical circumcision has been abolished then so too is the command to obey the 7th day Sabbath.
If a male child was 8 days old on the Sabbath the circumcision took priority. It was to be done.

Nothing in the Law of Moses is abolished. Every Hebrew/Jew knows this. It is a false theology of the Constantinian Gentile church to do away with God's Holy Law(s.) And for teaching others the Law is changed or abolished brings upon the person that does this judgment from God.

13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. Rom. 2:13.

19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world [of Hebrews/Jews] may become guilty before God. Rom. 3:18–19.

22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: Rom. 7:22.

31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. Rom. 3:31.

Saul continued to obey and practice the Law especially after he met his Yeshua Messiah.

Try reading the NT from a Hebrew/Jewish perspective. Tell me what you find.

 

[jeremiah1five]

It wasn't abolished, it was fulfilled in Christ...

Matthew 5:18 KJV
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

It was fulfilled in Christ in "our" stead. That's the meaning of the passage.
And now that Christ dwells in the believer God sees that believer as though he had kept every precept in the Law also. And this is where we are justified. In the keeping of every precept of the Law because Christ kept the Law in "our" stead.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Calvary

Saul kept on obeying the Law of Moses, especially after he met Yeshua Messiah. It was never abolished. Saul proves it. ALL the writers of the New Covenant writings (Matthew to Revelation) were Jewish Christians obedient to the Law of Moses.

13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God. Exodus 31:13–18.

Either the Constantinian Gentile church teaching the Sabbath (and the Law of Moses) is abolished or God is lying to Israel.
Gentiles - like @Josheb - say and teach the sabbath, and by extension the Law of Moses is truly abolished at Calvary, or God is lying when he says in verse 16 "throughout your generations for a perpetual covenant" and verse 17 "it is a sign between me and the children of Israel FOREVER."
I think the heresy of the Gentile church on these questions is revealed by the presentation of Scripture which shoots down their false belief and heresy. And there are countless other heresies the Gentile church hold to that will be contradicted by the Holy Word of God and will bring the judgment of God upon them at the appointed time.
That time is fast approaching.
REPENT or DIE!
There's never a stone around when you need it.
Or Gentile Christians can be obedient to the Law of Moses and just go and hang yourselves like Judas did. He obeyed the Law of Moses, too, as a Hebrew man in covenant with God and atoned of sin.

 

[jeremiah1five]

I think you have hit on something here. Keeping a sabbath is, of itself, not a problem, but it is the inordinate focus on it to the exclusion of the "weightier matters of the law": judgment, mercy, and faith that is a problem.

When we make a single component of human effort a part of our salvation we are leaning on a broken reed.

It's no longer "human effort" since Christ fulfilled the Law and His dwelling in us through His Spirit means before God, we also have kept every precept of the Law and no longer must exert any "human effort" to keep the Law. In Christ's fulfilling of the Law and God accepting His obedience we are also in this respect obedient to the Law and in this we find "our" justification. And in this justification, we are righteous before God.
Mission Accomplished.

 

[Fred]

Nothing in the Law of Moses is abolished.

Al of it abolished (Hebrews 8:13).

 

[Mr GLee]

Nothing in the Law of Moses is abolished. Every Hebrew/Jew knows this. It is a false theology of the Constantinian Gentile church to do away with God's Holy Law(s.) And for teaching others the Law is changed or abolished brings upon the person that does this judgment from God.

Yes nothing in the ceremonial law as as sign to all the nation it is abolished, the shadow became sight during the first century reformation

Have you studied the efect and casue of that first century reformation? its the standard for all restoringChrsits government of faith the unseen things of the King of kings.

Hebrew:8-10 The Holy Ghost this signifying. . (Using the temporal dying things seen to give us the unseen spiritual understanding) that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: Which was a figure (parable) for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, (simply shadows) as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.

Some do worship shadows calling them divine sacred sacraments.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Al of it abolished (Hebrews 8:13).

I think you should take a closer look at the flow of thought and what came before and after your verse which you've taken out of its context. Even I can make a passage say what I want and ignore the other words part of the flow of thought that surrounds it.

First, the Law of Moses is forever, and Israel is commanded to obey it in their perpetual generations:

16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Ex 31:15–17.

God is not a man that He should lie, has He not said it, and shall He not make it come to pass? The answer is: YES. If God were going to abolish the Law of Moses, He would not say it was to be obeyed throughout their perpetual generations and forever. Forever is not ambiguous. So, it's clear the Law of Moses - sabbath included - is to be obeyed by Israel forever. It is this same Law of God by which Israel restored is to obey and obey it forever. The Law of Moses plays an important part in the Redemption of God's holy people, and it will be used of God to judge the Gentile nations. Then there is the man who came to Jesus and asked about his inheritance as a Hebrew. What did Jesus tell the man? He directed him to the Law. Then when the man answered correctly Jesus told him to obey the Law and he shall live. It makes no sense for Jesus to direct the man to obey the Law if in several months He was going to abolish it with His sacrifice. After Jesus ascended here's, the man obeying the Law of Moses at Jesus' instruction, but the Law of Moses was abolished. Talk about playing someone for a fool. This would mean Jesus sinned.

25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
Lk 10:25–28.

7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Heb 8:7–13.

Hebrew 8:13 says it is ready to vanish away to have the New Covenant on top of the Law of Moses for Israel to obey. IF the New Covenant replaced the Mosaic covenant/Law, then it also replaces the Abrahamic Covenant but that can't be true either for Saul tells Jewish Christians that if they are Christ's then they are STILL Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise given to Abraham. But it doesn't stop there. The chapter might end but not the thoughts which continue in chapter 9:

1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
2 For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.
3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;
4 Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron’s rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;
5 And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.
6 Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.
7 But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. 13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: 14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. 18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and ascarlet wool, and chyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 9:1-2 and 10:1 -28. (have to edit it as it's too long.

These verses are packed with truth that the Law will remain forever. But you have to understand the Scriptures here. I can't teach you. I am not your pastor. God will use the Law of Moses to judge His Chosen people and the heathen nations. But He won't be able to do that if the Law of Moses has been abolished. Where will the Ark of the Covenant go or be placed if there is no Law?
You need to lay off the Gentile propaganda you hold to and receive the Word of God.
Now, I have to go and let's see if I need to finish this. You can read, right?

 

[prism]

It was fulfilled in Christ in "our" stead. That's the meaning of the passage.
And now that Christ dwells in the believer God sees that believer as though he had kept every precept in the Law also. And this is where we are justified. In the keeping of every precept of the Law because Christ kept the Law in "our" stead.

As He has also taken our punishment due from our law breaking...

Isaiah 53:5 NKJV
But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed.

1 Peter 3:18 NKJV
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit,

 

[Mr GLee]

First, the Law of Moses is forever, and Israel is commanded to obey it in their perpetual generations:

16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Ex 31:15–17.

The word sabbath rest is a not time sensitive word wherever we hear his word and do it and do not harden our hearts we have entered that 24/7 rest

Moses has no law of his own . God's law, two kinds. Ceremonial as a shadow. unjudgeable. and moral law no shadow, judgeable

 

[Fred]

I think you should take a closer look at the flow of thought and what came before and after your verse which you've taken out of its context. Even I can make a passage say what I want and ignore the other words part of the flow of thought that surrounds it.

First, the Law of Moses is forever, and Israel is commanded to obey it in their perpetual generations:

16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Ex 31:15–17.

God is not a man that He should lie, has He not said it, and shall He not make it come to pass? The answer is: YES. If God were going to abolish the Law of Moses, He would not say it was to be obeyed throughout their perpetual generations and forever. Forever is not ambiguous. So, it's clear the Law of Moses - sabbath included - is to be obeyed by Israel forever. It is this same Law of God by which Israel restored is to obey and obey it forever. The Law of Moses plays an important part in the Redemption of God's holy people, and it will be used of God to judge the Gentile nations. Then there is the man who came to Jesus and asked about his inheritance as a Hebrew. What did Jesus tell the man? He directed him to the Law. Then when the man answered correctly Jesus told him to obey the Law and he shall live. It makes no sense for Jesus to direct the man to obey the Law if in several months He was going to abolish it with His sacrifice. After Jesus ascended here's, the man obeying the Law of Moses at Jesus' instruction, but the Law of Moses was abolished. Talk about playing someone for a fool. This would mean Jesus sinned.

25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
Lk 10:25–28.

7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Heb 8:7–13.

Hebrew 8:13 says it is ready to vanish away to have the New Covenant on top of the Law of Moses for Israel to obey. IF the New Covenant replaced the Mosaic covenant/Law, then it also replaces the Abrahamic Covenant but that can't be true either for Saul tells Jewish Christians that if they are Christ's then they are STILL Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise given to Abraham. But it doesn't stop there. The chapter might end but not the thoughts which continue in chapter 9:

1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
2 For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.
3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;
4 Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron’s rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;
5 And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.
6 Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.
7 But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. 13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: 14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. 18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and ascarlet wool, and chyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 9:1-2 and 10:1 -28. (have to edit it as it's too long.

These verses are packed with truth that the Law will remain forever. But you have to understand the Scriptures here. I can't teach you. I am not your pastor. God will use the Law of Moses to judge His Chosen people and the heathen nations. But He won't be able to do that if the Law of Moses has been abolished. Where will the Ark of the Covenant go or be placed if there is no Law?
You need to lay off the Gentile propaganda you hold to and receive the Word of God.
Now, I have to go and let's see if I need to finish this. You can read, right?

Hebrews 8:13 still teaches the Old Covenant has been abrogated.