What is Faith in the Bible?
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I think she is referring to what is over toward one end of a spectrum between "freewillers" (self-determinists) and non-"freewillers" (determinists). She is not necessarily referring to the extreme of those believing there is no choice and fatalists, but those who believe that "God has ordained ALL things, whatsoever shall come to pass."
Christ most definitely is one, as, I think, you also believe.
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● Heb 11:1 . . Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we
do not see.
I'm sometimes asked how I can believe in a religion that cannot be proven true. I
can only say it's an intuitive conviction that I am unable to shake off.
Why does anybody believe what they believe? Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu, Bahá'í,
Hare Krishna, Jehovah's Witness, Mormon, Catholic, Baptist, Judaism, Voodoo,
Wiccan, Jain, Druze, Native American, etc, etc, etc. The answer? Because it grips
their heart-- the core of their being --which is very different than persuading
someone with logic and reasoning.
When folks are persuaded to buy into a religion by means of logic and reasoning,
they can be just as easily persuaded to give it up by logic and reasoning. But
someone whose heart is gripped by their religion is not easily removed regardless
of how strong, how sensible, how convincing, nor how logical the opposition's
argument. In point of fact, one of the prerequisites to salvation is believing with
one's heart rather than one's head. (Rom 10:8-9)
● Heb 11:3 . . By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's
command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
Intelligent design is impossible to prove true. But we accept it because the first
chapter of Genesis wasn't written for the scientific mind, rather, it was written for
the mind of faith; which is able to cope with creation as a reality instead of a myth.
NOTE: Galileo believed that science and religion are allies rather than enemies--
two different languages telling the same story. He believed that science and religion
complement each other, to wit: science answers questions that religion doesn't
bother to answer, and religion answers questions that science cannot answer.
For example: theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking understood pretty well how the
cosmos works; but could never scientifically explain why it should exist at all. Well;
in my estimation, the only possible answer to the "why" is found in intelligent
design; which is a religious explanation rather than scientific. Religion's why is
satisfactory for people of faith. No doubt deep thinkers like Michio Kaku, Neil
deGrasse Tyson, Michelle Thaller, and the late Carl Sagan would prefer something
a bit more empirical.
Faith is believin' somethin' that ain't so.
Mark Twain
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● Heb 11:1 . . Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we
do not see.
I'm sometimes asked how I can believe in a religion that cannot be proven true. I
can only say it's an intuitive conviction that I am unable to shake off.
Why does anybody believe what they believe? Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu, Bahá'í,
Hare Krishna, Jehovah's Witness, Mormon, Catholic, Baptist, Judaism, Voodoo,
Wiccan, Jain, Druze, Native American, etc, etc, etc. The answer? Because it grips
their heart-- the core of their being --which is very different than persuading
someone with logic and reasoning.
When folks are persuaded to buy into a religion by means of logic and reasoning,
they can be just as easily persuaded to give it up by logic and reasoning. But
someone whose heart is gripped by their religion is not easily removed regardless
of how strong, how sensible, how convincing, nor how logical the opposition's
argument. In point of fact, one of the prerequisites to salvation is believing with
one's heart rather than one's head. (Rom 10:8-9)
● Heb 11:3 . . By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's
command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
Intelligent design is impossible to prove true. But we accept it because the first
chapter of Genesis wasn't written for the scientific mind, rather, it was written for
the mind of faith; which is able to cope with creation as a reality instead of a myth.
NOTE: Galileo believed that science and religion are allies rather than enemies--
two different languages telling the same story. He believed that science and religion
complement each other, to wit: science answers questions that religion doesn't
bother to answer, and religion answers questions that science cannot answer.
For example: theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking understood pretty well how the
cosmos works; but could never scientifically explain why it should exist at all. Well;
in my estimation, the only possible answer to the "why" is found in intelligent
design; which is a religious explanation rather than scientific. Religion's why is
satisfactory for people of faith. No doubt deep thinkers like Michio Kaku, Neil
deGrasse Tyson, Michelle Thaller, and the late Carl Sagan would prefer something
a bit more empirical.
Faith is believin' somethin' that ain't so.
Mark Twain
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