What is Evil and Where Did it Come From

[Arial]

 

[David1701]

I haven't watched the video yet, but I'd say that evil came from the devil taking his eyes off the Lord, and looking at himself and his attributes with pride, forgetting that everything he had was because God had given it to him.

 

[Arial]

I haven't watched the video yet, but I'd say that evil came from the devil taking his eyes off the Lord, and looking at himself and his attributes with pride, forgetting that everything he had was because God had given it to him.

I will wait until you have watched the video. That does not really explain where evil came from or what it is. It is very interesting and should humble us all in areas of mystery that we so often think the human mind can actually apprehend.

 

[LeviR]

Sin is evil.
By one man(Adam) sin entered the world.

The origin of evil lies with man.

 

[Arial]

Sin is evil.
By one man(Adam) sin entered the world.

The origin of evil lies with man.

I suggest watching the video before replying. Evil had to exist in order for it to enter through man. What has to exist in order for there to be evil?

 

[LeviR]

I suggest watching the video before replying. Evil had to exist in order for it to enter through man. What has to exist in order for there to be evil?

All that needs to exist for evil to exist is law. Without law there is no sin.
The law shows the sinfulness of man.
Why? Because the law is made weak by the flesh.
Very simple.
All truth is just as simple. Man complicates it.

 

[Arial]

All that needs to exist for evil to exist is law. Without law there is no sin.
The law shows the sinfulness of man.
Why? Because the law is made weak by the flesh.
Very simple.
All truth is just as simple. Man complicates it.

Have you watched the video? You are not correctly identifying the issue. Until that enters into the conversation, the basis from discussion is left out.

 

[LeviR]

Have you watched the video? You are not correctly identifying the issue. Until that enters into the conversation, the basis from discussion is left out.

The question is “What is evil and where did it come from?”

Who needs an hour to explain something so basic and simple of a question as that?

I can do it in 20 seconds. Just as I already have.

Sin is evil.
Sin entered the world by one man.
Where law does not exist neither does transgression of the law.
The law is made weak by the flesh.
The weakness of the law by the flesh is why evil exists.
Simple.

Took me 30 seconds cause I’m not as fast at typing.

 

[Arial]

The question is “What is evil and where did it come from?”

Who needs an hour to explain something so basic and simple of a question as that?

I can do it in 20 seconds. Just as I already have.

Sin is evil.
Sin entered the world by one man.
Where law does not exist neither does transgression of the law.
The law is made weak by the flesh.
The weakness of the law by the flesh is why evil exists.
Simple.

Took me 30 seconds cause I’m not as fast at typing.

Those are biblical doctrines LevR. They are not the answer to the question that is asking what is the origin of evil itself. There was evil before Adam and Eve. If God is the source of all that is does that make Him the source of evil did he create evil? If he is the source of evil then how is man responsible for his sin? Did God create Adam and Eve to be sinful? If so how is man responsible? You figured all of this out in 30 seconds?

But remain uneducated in the matter if that satisfies you. I am not going to debate from that position. However, you will remain unaware of what is being spoken about and examined unless you do sacrifice a bit of your time. You can watch it in bits and pieces the time isn't available all at once. It has a pause button. It is up to you. Makes no difference to me. Hopefully some will watch and be blessed and enlightened by it. I did not actually put it up for the purposes of debate as this is not a debate board.

 

[LeviR]

Those are biblical doctrines LevR. They are not the answer to the question that is asking what is the origin of evil itself. There was evil before Adam and Eve. If God is the source of all that is does that make Him the source of evil did he create evil? If he is the source of evil then how is man responsible for his sin? Did God create Adam and Eve to be sinful? If so how is man responsible? You figured all of this out in 30 seconds?

But remain uneducated in the matter if that satisfies you. I am not going to debate from that position. However, you will remain unaware of what is being spoken about and examined unless you do sacrifice a bit of your time. You can watch it in bits and pieces the time isn't available all at once. It has a pause button. It is up to you. Makes no difference to me. Hopefully some will watch and be blessed and enlightened by it. I did not actually put it up for the purposes of debate as this is not a debate board.

Where does the Bible say there was evil before Adam and Eve?

The Bible says sin entered the world by Adam. You say it didn’t.
Well, there you have it.

 

[Arial]

Where does the Bible say there was evil before Adam and Eve?

The Bible says sin entered the world by Adam. You say it didn’t.
Well, there you have it.

This is not a debate board.

 

[David1701]

I will wait until you have watched the video. That does not really explain where evil came from or what it is. It is very interesting and should humble us all in areas of mystery that we so often think the human mind can actually apprehend.

Okay, I've watched the full video now. It's well explained and clear, but I didn't really learn anything new.

Here's what I posted previously (to have it as a reference in this post), "I haven't watched the video yet, but I'd say that evil came from the devil taking his eyes off the Lord, and looking at himself and his attributes with pride, forgetting that everything he had was because God had given it to him.".

This was a very brief summary of my thinking and praying about this (mostly when I was very young in the faith, nearly 40 years ago).

Now, I'll give a slightly longer summary: I realised that evil is not something in itself, but only a corruption of something good. This means that the devil, whilst created very good, was given the ability to become corrupted (as Adam and Eve were).

How could this happen? Well, it's desire that leads to action; but, the devil would have started with very good desire; so, how could that reduce to the point that it became sinful?

Here's an analogy that I believe shows, roughly, how this could happen. Suppose that you are driving on a motorway with a minimum speed limit of 40 m.p.h.. You are driving at 70 m.p.h. and reduce the pressure on the accelerator a little. Your speed reduces to 60 m.p.h. (still no problem and no sin). You reduce the pressure a little more, then a little more, until, finally, your speed slows to 39 m.p.h., at which point you are committing "evil".

Every creature depends upon God for life and goodness, but, suppose we lessen our focus on him a little. We are not committing evil, just bearing a little less fruit (some thirty-fold, some sixty-fold and some an hundred-fold). We spend a little less time in the means of grace (hearing preaching, praying, reading the Bible, godly fellowship, etc.) and God gives us a little less of the grace that we need to produce good fruit. If this process continues, then we will enter into, not merely less good fruit, but some bad fruit (evil), to some extent at least.

I believe that something like this is how evil started, the devil focusing less and less on the Lord until he reached the point where less good fruit turned to bad fruit (looking to himself in pride).

 

[Soul]

Evil is a force that originated by itself like certain monstrous diseases in the most wholesome body. Lucifer was an angel, the most beautiful of all the angels, a perfect spirit, inferior only to God, and yet in his bright essence a vapour of pride arose and he did not scatter it. On the contrary, he condensed it by brooding over it. And Evil was born of this incubation. It existed before man. God had hurled him out of Paradise, the cursed incubator of Evil, who had desecrated Paradise. But he is the eternal incubator of Evil and as he can no longer soil Paradise, he has soiled the earth.