What ever happened to the Gospel

[donadams]

Im not an Old Testament or old law expert that's why i asked

But it does seem to violate the concept of the four spiritual laws

Whats your insights?

 

[Carbon]

Im not an Old Testament or old law expert that's why i asked

But it does seem to violate the concept of the four spiritual laws

Whats your insights?

The four spiritual laws? What do you mean exactly? Or what are you asking? Thanks.

 

[Carbon]

Why did the reformation occur? What really brought that great division in Christendom?

The reasons were primarily spiritual and theological, I believe. The Reformation's understanding of salvation, religious authority, and the church was a major break with the theology officially espoused by the Roman Catholic Church. The Protestant Reformation was then, first and foremost, a theological revolution.

The present-day evangelical attitude toward the place and importance of theology in the life of the church is a major reason why the teaching of the Reformation has been blocked out in the church. Theology today is either considered a necessary evil or something that is, practically speaking, irrelevant to the concerns of ministry and church growth. Lip service is sometimes paid to the reformation, but hardly more than that.

 

[Carbon]

Horton said elsewhere in his book:

Christless Christianity sounds a bit harsh, dosent it? A little shallow, sometimes distracted, even a little human-centered rather than Christ-centered from time to time, But Christiless?
Let me be a little more precise about what I am assuming to be the regular diet in many churches across America today: "do more, try harder."
I think that is the pervasive message across the spectrum today.

 

[Alive]

Why did the reformation occur? What really brought that great division in Christendom?

The reasons were primarily spiritual and theological, I believe. The Reformation's understanding of salvation, religious authority, and the church was a major break with the theology officially espoused by the Roman Catholic Church. The Protestant Reformation was then, first and foremost, a theological revolution.

The present-day evangelical attitude toward the place and importance of theology in the life of the church is a major reason why the teaching of the Reformation has been blocked out in the church. Theology today is either considered a necessary evil or something that is, practically speaking, irrelevant to the concerns of ministry and church growth. Lip service is sometimes paid to the reformation, but hardly more than that.

I think the Lord’s timing may have something to do with freeing the saints from a choke hold and the printing press allowing scripture in the hands of the common folks.
The Body enjoyed an explosion of riches.

 

[Arch Stanton]

I think the Lord’s timing may have something to do with freeing the saints from a choke hold and the printing press allowing scripture in the hands of the common folks.
The Body enjoyed an explosion of riches.

Gutenberg was a German Catholic who invented printing with movable type. The first book he printed was the Mazarin Bible, also known as the Gutenberg Bible, which was printed more than 60 years before the Reformation began.

 

[Alive]

Gutenberg was a German Catholic who invented printing with movable type. The first book he printed was the Mazarin Bible, also known as the Gutenberg Bible, which was printed more than 60 years before the Reformation began.

Yup…the Lord also came in the flesh after the Roman roads were built.

 

[donadams]

The four spiritual laws? What do you mean exactly? Or what are you asking? Thanks.

Basically as understood it

2) Man is sinful and separated from God, so we cannot know Him personally or experience His love.
Man is Sinful.

3) Jesus Christ is God's only provision for man's sin. Through Him alone we can know God personally and experience God's love.
He Died in Our Place.

4) We must individually receive Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord; then we can know God personally and experience His love.
We Must Receive Christ.

 

[donadams]

Why did the reformation occur? What really brought that great division in Christendom?

The reasons were primarily spiritual and theological, I believe. The Reformation's understanding of salvation, religious authority, and the church was a major break with the theology officially espoused by the Roman Catholic Church. The Protestant Reformation was then, first and foremost, a theological revolution.

The present-day evangelical attitude toward the place and importance of theology in the life of the church is a major reason why the teaching of the Reformation has been blocked out in the church. Theology today is either considered a necessary evil or something that is, practically speaking, irrelevant to the concerns of ministry and church growth. Lip service is sometimes paid to the reformation, but hardly more than that.

No division

A limb that is cut off from the body dies, life remains with the body!

Jn 15:6 applies

 

[Alive]

Basically as understood it

2) Man is sinful and separated from God, so we cannot know Him personally or experience His love.
Man is Sinful.

3) Jesus Christ is God's only provision for man's sin. Through Him alone we can know God personally and experience God's love.
He Died in Our Place.

4) We must individually receive Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord; then we can know God personally and experience His love.
We Must Receive Christ.

This is very much on the right track!
Praise the Lord!
Perhaps tomorrow morning I will post about ‘A Problem Solved’.

 

[Mr GLee]

2) Man is sinful and separated from God, so we cannot know Him personally or experience His love.
Man is Sinful.

How would that no contact with God personally apply to those born again by the seed of sola scriptura.?

Can they experience his Love. ?

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever
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[donadams]

Yup…the Lord also came in the flesh after the Roman roads were built.

Bible were still rare and expensive
And modern book printing did happen till the 20th century and mass production also most people were illiterate until the 20 century that’s why Christ founded a church to teach and sanctify all men! Matt 28:19

 

[Eleanor]

No division

A limb that is cut off from the body dies, life remains with the body!

Jn 15:6 applies

The body of Christ is the church.

Wherever two or three are gathered in his name, he is there among them.

 

[Carbon]

No division

A limb that is cut off from the body dies, life remains with the body!

Jn 15:6 applies

Well, I suppose you're right here.

 

[Carbon]

Basically as understood it

2) Man is sinful and separated from God, so we cannot know Him personally or experience His love.
Man is Sinful.

3) Jesus Christ is God's only provision for man's sin. Through Him alone we can know God personally and experience God's love.
He Died in Our Place.

4) We must individually receive Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord; then we can know God personally and experience His love.
We Must Receive Christ.

4 spiritual laws? As in Bill Bright?


If so I disagree.

 

[donadams]

The body of Christ is the church.

Wherever two or three are gathered in his name, he is there among them.

It’s doesn’t make them the church with jurisdictional authority in hierarchy

And this verse does not authorize spiritual anarchy

 

[donadams]

I think so but not too familiar

 

[Carbon]

I think so but not too familiar

Well just so you know I disagree with Bill Bright and I think his 4 spiritual laws are misleading. He teaches and promotes humanism.

 

[Eleanor]

It’s doesn’t make them the church with jurisdictional authority in hierarchy

And this verse does not authorize spiritual anarchy

The NT does not use "church" to mean jurisdictional authority in hierarchy.

It uses "church" (ek-klesia, called-out assembly) to mean the bride of the Lamb, the body of Christ in the two-in-one enfleshment of the marital union, the brothers of Jesus Christ, the sons of God.

 

[donadams]

Well just so you know I disagree with Bill Bright and I think his 4 spiritual laws are misleading. He teaches and promotes humanism.

The NT does not use "church" to mean jurisdictional authority in hierarchy.

It uses "church" (ek-klesia, called-out assembly) to mean the bride of the Lamb, the body of Christ in the two-in-one enfleshment of the marital union, the brothers of Jesus Christ, the sons of God.

How and to whom do you submit and obey?