Tribulation Outtakes

[Rev. Man Ron]

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Rev 16:17-18 predicts a global earthquake so powerful on the Richter scale that
cities all over the world will collapse at once.

Something like 2,829 lost their lives when the World Trade Center was demolished
by a terrorist attack in 2001. Well that was only a few acres of New York City. Just
imagine the body count when all of Manhattan comes down at once. along with
other major cities like Los Angeles, San Francisco, Mexico City, Paris, Moscow,
Beijing, Tokyo, et al. The carnage will be beyond belief; and a great many of the
dead will be infants and underage children.
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Never seen anyone make a thread and just chat with themselves, what a site.

 

[Rev. Man Ron]

Never seen anyone make a thread and just chat with themselves, what a site.

Rev 1:1 . .The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his
servants-- things which must shortly take place. And he sent and signified it by His
angel etc, etc.

The Greek word translated "shortly" tells us that the events depicted in the book of
Revelation will be completed within a relatively brief space of time.

Since he

Rev 1:1 . .The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his
servants-- things which must shortly take place. And he sent and signified it by His
angel etc, etc.

The Greek word translated "shortly" tells us that the events depicted in the book of
Revelation will be completed within a relatively brief space of time.

I have already shown how SHORTLY means IN HASTE, or SPEEDILY. I am going to show why this guy doesn't understand the book of Revelation, even though he thinks he does. He is one of those spammers. I see a lot of copy and paste spam (Red Dot) from other sites.

Rev 6:5 . . And when He broke the third seal, I heard the third living creature
saying: Come! And I looked, and behold, a black horse; and he who sat on it had a
pair of scales in his hand.

Scales (a.k.a. balances) were mechanical devices used in the application of
commercial weights and measures. Modern electronic scales are quite a bit more
sophisticated.

The black horse in this case indicates hunger. (compare the pale horse's
assignment in Rev 6:8)

The Seals do nothing, they are Jesus Prophesying about the soon to come (at that time, which is soon to us also) Trumpet Judgments, as he breaks each Seal he Prophesies about the coming Anti-Christs reign in Seals 1-5 and about coming God's Wrath in Seal #6, both parallel for 42 months but why? The Anti-Christ is not allowed to go forth conquering until God's Wrath falls in the Middle of the week, Rev. 8 Asteroid events, that is why Seal #7 those looses the Judgment Scroll is over in Rev. 8 after the Jews flee Judea in Rev. 7, the 144,000 is code for ALL Israel who repents. Knowing what the Seals are speaking about is not that difficult, understanding they are foretelling what God's Wrath will bring via the 7 Trump Judgments that delivers all of God's Wrath, the number Seven equals Divine Completion.

Rev 6:7-8 . .When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the
fourth living creature say: Come!

. . . I looked, and there before me was a pale horse. Its rider was named Death,
and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of
the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

* The lethal sources listed are common throughout the world today; but never have
they harvested so many souls as they will in the future. For example:

The Fourth Horse is speaking of death, sickness and the grave (Hades) by the Anti-Christ, and he kills a 1/4 but he is only over the E.U. and the Mediterranean Sea Region, so it could be 1/4 of that region, or 1/4 of the Old World, but the New World is the 1/3 which burns. So, he kills 1/4 of the people within his reach, or under his rule he is not going to even try and strike the New World which starts burning via the Rev. 8 Asteroid. Not understanding this throws his "scales" off balance.

No doubt previous centuries of theologians were curious about that prediction, but
thanks to the relatively new science of plate tectonics, we now know that the
movement of mountains and islands has been occurring all along; just not as
noticeable as the shuffle depicted by Rev 16:14b.

The IMPACT of the Asteroid will cause this, I just got an idea from this guy, God can use anyone to inspire us. I never thought about this or asked anyone one, so if a GREA ASTEROID strikes us, does that set off the tectonic plates to moving? Because of the forceful impact !! Interesting thought to ponder. I know the Asteroid causes all of thism so I assume it does something to the plates.

Rev 6:12 . . I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great
earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon
turned blood red

Astronomically, that depicts a solar eclipse and a lunar eclipse simultaneously;
which nature by itself cannot produce due to specific alignment requirements.

No, that is an Asteroid that brings in the FIRES in Trump #1 which emits so much smoke it blots out 1/3 of the suns rays from coming in. The Red Mon is the red hue that comes from 1/3 of the world burning with fire.

Rev 6:13 . . and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as late figs drop from a fig tree
when shaken by a strong wind.

Those will likely be shooting stars (a.k.a. meteors) and possibly asteroids too,
rather than solar bodies like Polaris, Sirius, Betelgeuse, and/or Rigel which would
cause impacts that the Earth simply cannot accommodate due to its Lilliputian size
compared to the mass of those kinds of celestial objects. Many of the stars seen in
the sky are quite a bit larger than the Sun; whose diameter is 109x and its volume
1,300,000x the Earth's.

This may have a double meaning, with the one Asteroid that makes impact, but overall I think this refers to Satan and his Demons (Stars = Angels in the bibles, see Job, the Stars all had a meeting) being cast out of the heavens or the 2nd Heaven (our universe's skies) and down unto earth, lie untimely figs.

Anyway, those events will quite naturally cause a world-wide panic.

● Rev 6:15-17 . . .Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich,
the mighty, and every slave and every free man hid in caves and among the rocks
of the mountains. They called to the mountains and the rocks: Fall on us and hide
us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For
the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?

This is the 7 Trumps of God, the Wrath of God starts with an Asteroid breaking apart and fires burning 1/3 of the 2worlds trees (North and South America IMHO). Then we get THE IMPACT (Trump #2) then we get the Poisonous FALLOUT or "Wormwood" (Trump #3) finally after all of the fires we see the Sun & Moon's lights dim by 1/3. Yes, the whole world fears the "OBVIOUS WRATH" of God and the Lamb's Wrath is the exact same thing.

Rev 8:7 . .The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire
mixed with blood, and it was hurled down upon the earth. A third of the earth was
burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned
up.

There's quite a bit of destruction depicted in that verse; and I suspect it's all aimed
at agriculture.

Fires from an Asteroid. SEE ABOVE. Yes, when the Americas burn and we get Wars there will be FAMINE !!

NOTE: Although crops will be burned, they'll bounce back. (Rev 9:1-4)

The Old World will not be burned, that is why we need t actually understand the meaning of the verses.

More later...........

 

[Rev. Man Ron]

Rev 13:4 . . And they worshipped the Dragon which gave power unto the Beast:
and they worshipped the Beast, saying: Who is like unto the Beast? Who is able to
make war with him?

* The Dragon is identified at Rev 12:9 as the Serpent, the Devil, and Satan; so
there can be no doubt who this creature really is. (cf. Rev 20:2)

They world "WORSHIPS THE DRAGON" now, 1 Billion abortions (baby sacrifice) homosexual marriage on demand, the elites call good evil and evil good. They don; even believe Satan exists, therefore the masses worshipping the Beast means they worship Mankind and THIS MAN (666 = Man) over God, thereby they worship the things of the world over God, thereby they worship "Satan's ways". It is metaphoric, these cra cra's you see who hate God and laugh at the though of being created are not going to openly worship that which they do not believe in, the word Worship equals the Old English word "weorthscipe", and it means worthiness, they find worthiness in the things of Satan, even though they do not believe in Satan.

The word “Worship” has its origins in the Old English word weorthscipe, meaning worthiness, respect, or worth-ship. In other words, to worship is to honor that which is of worth.

Worship of the Beast will be universal, mandatory, and strictly enforced regardless
of age, race, gender, and/or ethnic identity-- a one-world mega religion that blows
all others out of the water, e.g. Islam, Mormonism, Hinduism, Christianity, Judaism,
Baha'i, Buddhism, etc.
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He only rules over the E.U. and the Mediterranean Sea Region. Not the whole world. He will kill off every religion in his region (The Harlot is killed off in Rev. 17:16)

Rev 13:5a . . And there was given unto the Beast a mouth speaking great things

That's pretty much describes the rhetoric of most every politician, viz: promises of
a better world under the auspices of their own administrative practices.

This is simply showing the last Beast is a MAN (666) not a Nation Beast per se. All of the Beasts were Blasphemous by nature, this Bast has a MOUTH meaning he is a man.

In this scenario, the Beast is God's political opponent, no doubt scoffing at the
notion of Christ's return to rule the world.

Well political opponents in today's world make it their mission in life to destroy the
other guy's reputation and call into question his motives. I suspect the Beast's
tactics will be no different because it's to his advantage to emphasize the old God's
perceived faults and failures and show how himself as the new God can do a much
better job managing the world's affairs.

Jesus said he was not of this world. Satan is he god of this world, Jesus will not come to compare political agendas, he comes in the Authority of his Father and thee will be no conversations, he will destroy the Beast by the presence of his coming. Modern men getting in to politics now are wasting their time. Trump won for two specific reasons, to bring forth the Abraham Accords (Must needs be peace between Israel and he IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS) and Trump had to slow down the process, Satan was coming forth too fast, Obama was the agenda setter. Since the Rapture will not happen until the fall of 2025 God placed Trump in to slow the ramp up down.

NOTE: I would imagine that a first order of business for the Beast will be to come
up with a plausible explanation for the world-wide extraction described by 1Thess
4:13-18 wherein nigh unto 2,000 years of deceased Christians will appear out of
thin air all over the globe and join those alive to go up and rendezvous with Christ
in the clouds.

There will be no mass disappearance of peoples, as 1 Cor. 15 CLEARLY SHOWS, we must be CHANGED to be like those dead in Christ who are raised WITHOUT CORRUPTIION (Sin Flesh) because no sin flesh can enter heaven, so they are raised as vs. 44 says as SPIRIT MEN (look it up) and this we need to also lose our SIN FLESH, the we are CHANGED in a split second, and we go to be with the Lord as spirit men, just like the dead in Christ do. So, its a pandemic that kills on Christians, hmmm. He must explain the 1 billion dead bodies, only 5 of the 10 brides make the wedding call, thus the one is TAKEN and the one is LEFT. (Matt. 24:36-51)

Rev 13:5c . . and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

1260 days, after the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact Jesus will indeed return.

Rev 16:17-18 predicts a global earthquake so powerful on the Richter scale that
cities all over the world will collapse at once.

This is Jesus 2nd Coming, I think the reason this is the GREATEST EVER EARTQUAKE is because Jesus is taking over here, he lands on Mt. Zion and splits the mountain into, but its not going to destroy Jerusalem.

Its the greatest ever symbolically, Jesus is not going to destroy ole Jerusalem. Now, it might be the greatest and God supernaturally protects parts of Jerusalem.

 

[Rev. Man Ron]

Rev 13:7-8 . . And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to
overcome them; and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and
nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not
written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Because we're talking about all kindreds, and tongues, and nations; then I think we
may safely assume that the "saints" in this case are possibly anyone and everybody
that can be counted as loyal to God; both Jew and Gentile. This may or may not
refer to armed conflict but for sure it's related to oppression; and it's going to be
very effective if we reckon these saints to be the innumerable crowd depicted at
Rev 7:9-17.

This can only be the Gentile Saints that get saved after the Rapture, the Jews who repent are protected for 1260 days, granted like a coke became a generic word for soft-drinks, I think "The Saints" can refer unto all Jews, so since 2/3 of the Jews will be killed according to Zech. 13:8-9 it can mean them, it can't mean the Jews who repent

Rev 13:8 . . All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast-- all whose names
have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from
the world.

Everything is a foregone conclusion with God; nothing surprises Him. God foresaw
the forbidden fruit incident, He foresaw Cain and Abel, He foresaw the Flood, He
foresaw the Tower of Babel, He foresaw Sodom and Gomorrah, He foresaw the
Holocaust, He foresaw all the folks who won't bow to the Beast, and He has seen
the Lake of Fire and the end of the world as we know it.

This simply means you can't serve two masters !! Therefore anyone who is not of Christ by default serves Satan. Yes, God know all things, but He still gives us free will to chose.

Rev 13:9-10 . . If anyone is destined for captivity, to captivity he goes; if anyone
kills with the sword, with the sword he must be killed. Here is the perseverance and
the faith of the saints.

There is no such thing as Predestination, just because God FOREKNOWS doesn't mean we don't have free will.

Rev 13:11 . . .Then I saw another beast, coming out of the earth. He had two
horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon.

This particular beast will be, from all appearances, a seemingly harmless individual,
viz: he won't have the look of a menace.

We know via history who this will be as per his office. Jason (real name Yeshua) bribed Antiochus to become the High Priest of Israel, having his Pious Brother Onias III killed. He the n welcomed Antiochus into the temple of God to sacrifice a pig unto Zeus. Then he mandated all Jews become Hellenized, leading unto the Maccabean Revolt. Thus not only was Antiochus an archetype Anti-Christ, but the archetype False Prophet also had to serve along side him for the "Shadow of things to come" to ring true. The End Time False Prophet will be a Jewish High Priest that the Anti-Christ or E.U. President pushes forth as a "Religious Tsar" so to speak. After Israel joins the E.U. this begins the 70th week and the Pre Trib Rapture happens. Reread Rev. 13, the F.P. makes an IMAGE of the Beast and gets everyone to worship him, just like Dan. 9:27 also says.

Rev 14:6-7 . . And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the
everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every
nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, announcing with a loud voice: Fear
God, and give glory to Him; for the hour of His judgment is come: and worship Him
that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

The everlasting gospel is a bounce from the very first chapter of Genesis; and
reiterated at Ps 19:1-4 and Rom 1:19-20. It's very elementary; pretty much all it
says is:

Signifies the Church is not on earth during the 70th week and that the 144,000 are misdiagnosed, they are not 144,000 super evangelists, they are ALL Israel who repents. 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 = 144,000 or as THE CODE shows, Fulness (12) x Completeness (10).

Rev 14:9-12 . . A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: If anyone
worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the
hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full
strength into the cup of his wrath.

This is the Harvest Chapter, nothing else, the 144,000 is merely ALL Israel who repent (the Wheat) the Wicked Grapes are seen in verses 17-20 and in a FLASHBACK in vs. 14 we see Jesus Rapturing the Church Pre Trib.

Rev 16:3 . .The second angel poured out his bowl on the sea, and it turned into
blood like that of a dead man, and every living thing in the sea died.

Fresh blood is tolerable as far as odor goes, whereas the blood of a dead man is in
a state of putrefaction; and then adding to that the carcasses and the stench of
dead fish, and everything else, will make for quite a chowder to behold.

The Mediterranean is notable in the Bible; but whether that's the sea spoken of
here is uncertain. However, in Gen 1:10 "sea" pertains to the entirety of Earth's
oceans.

All of these Vials come out of the 7th Trump, the 3rd Woe in full is simply the 7 Vials.

The 7 Trumps have ALL of God's Wrath contained in them, the First Four Trumps, then the Three Woes all come forth from the last Three Trumps, Rev. 8:13 says so. Thus the 3rd Woe comes out of the 7th Trump sounding. The 7 Vials is the 3rd Woe.

 

[EarlyActs]

That has already happened within the last year or two. Not everywhere, but in places there were supermarkets that had empty shelves, but their prices did not go up. It wasn't until inflation hit that prices went up. Has anyone tried tracking the prices on oil and wine? That is food oil, not crude oil.

Apocalyptic literature is very dramatic and uses Levitical idiom. That may explain why I hit a snag while doing an inventory.

I got half way through the judgements and the number of people was already at -275%. I did not work in numbers but percents.

This is apart from considerations like how the earth survives a star actually touching down.

This I suggest Barnet’s BEHIND THE SCENES chapter on Patmos for a start.

 

[EarlyActs]

This can only be the Gentile Saints that get saved after the Rapture, the Jews who repent are protected for 1260 days, granted like a coke became a generic word for soft-drinks, I think "The Saints" can refer unto all Jews, so since 2/3 of the Jews will be killed according to Zech. 13:8-9 it can mean them, it can't mean the Jews who repent


This simply means you can't serve two masters !! Therefore anyone who is not of Christ by default serves Satan. Yes, God know all things, but He still gives us free will to chose.


There is no such thing as Predestination, just because God FOREKNOWS doesn't mean we don't have free will.


We know via history who this will be as per his office. Jason (real name Yeshua) bribed Antiochus to become the High Priest of Israel, having his Pious Brother Onias III killed. He the n welcomed Antiochus into the temple of God to sacrifice a pig unto Zeus. Then he mandated all Jews become Hellenized, leading unto the Maccabean Revolt. Thus not only was Antiochus an archetype Anti-Christ, but the archetype False Prophet also had to serve along side him for the "Shadow of things to come" to ring true. The End Time False Prophet will be a Jewish High Priest that the Anti-Christ or E.U. President pushes forth as a "Religious Tsar" so to speak. After Israel joins the E.U. this begins the 70th week and the Pre Trib Rapture happens. Reread Rev. 13, the F.P. makes an IMAGE of the Beast and gets everyone to worship him, just like Dan. 9:27 also says.


Signifies the Church is not on earth during the 70th week and that the 144,000 are misdiagnosed, they are not 144,000 super evangelists, they are ALL Israel who repents. 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 = 144,000 or as THE CODE shows, Fulness (12) x Completeness (10).


This is the Harvest Chapter, nothing else, the 144,000 is merely ALL Israel who repent (the Wheat) the Wicked Grapes are seen in verses 17-20 and in a FLASHBACK in vs. 14 we see Jesus Rapturing the Church Pre Trib.


All of these Vials come out of the 7th Trump, the 3rd Woe in full is simply the 7 Vials.

The 7 Trumps have ALL of God's Wrath contained in them, the First Four Trumps, then the Three Woes all come forth from the last Three Trumps, Rev. 8:13 says so. Thus the 3rd Woe comes out of the 7th Trump sounding. The 7 Vials is the 3rd Woe.

The paragraph here on Maccabean history is a deflective conundrum. Jesus in Mt 24:15 was referring to someone who would rebel against the 4th world power of Dan 2, Rome. This vile person was introduced in 8:13 as leading a revolution.

Jesus said the incident would take place in that generation—his. It did and it ruined the country as Dan 9 says. The 490 years were completed with that, but the message of Messiahs loving sacrifice goes on.

A completely stray, backward way of reading these things and history is an industry in our time which is fraught with confusion. See Sanford THE COVENANT REVOLT.

 

[Odë:hgöd]

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● Rev 16:21 . . And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone
about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of
the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

* Talents were gross units of gold weighing from 75-100 pounds. That would be a
preposterous amount of gold to own in our day when it's current market value is
nearly $1,970 an ounce, but not so bad back there when it was strictly money
instead of traded as a commodity.

Dropping a lumps of ice that size from the sky all over the globe will be like a deadly
implosion smashing, bashing, and crushing most everything it touches: homes, barns,
super markets, strip malls, sports arenas, theaters, forests, pastures, crops, vehicles,
etc. Noah's rainfall was likely pretty destructive too but not like this. That was at least
liquid; this will be solid.

The natural world will surely experience significant damage among the critters who
live above ground, e.g. hogs, deer, elk, ducks, geese, turkeys, cows, mustangs,
monkeys, gorillas, lions, tigers, hyenas, elephants, giraffes, butterflies, moths,
tortoises, etc.

Just imagine being caught out in the open when that hail starts. Finding adequate
shelter from such a bombardment of ice will be very difficult and no doubt
frightened people will be shrieking and screaming in mortal panic.

Curiously, numbers of people will know the hail is from God but it won't persuade
them to consider making peace with Him, instead; the hail will just make 'em
angry.
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[Rev. Man Ron]

Hmmm...

The Greek word "tachei" is best translated as "quickly," not "shortly." The KJV, in particular, is very inconsistent with this; it translates the exact same term in numerous ways throughout the New Testament. The term "tachei" is, in fact, related to time but it is not specifically about the length of time; it is about the rapidness with which time related to the event passes.

Huge difference.

Its both, the word just morphed somewhat, Shortly used to mean in a short timespan, when it was translated if you look up the Strong's definition it has In Haste, Quickly, Speedily and Shortly. Some people just do not do the deep dives and this get offtracked.

 

[Josheb]

Its both, the word just morphed somewhat, Shortly used to mean in a short timespan, when it was translated if you look up the Strong's definition it has In Haste, Quickly, Speedily and Shortly. Some people just do not do the deep dives and this get offtracked.

Then that simply and directly reinforces the fact the events described were going to happen very quickly and soon to the time when the revelation was revealed (because the time was [then] near or at hand).

 

[Rev. Man Ron]

Then that simply and directly reinforces the fact the events described were going to happen very quickly and soon to the time when the revelation was revealed (because the time was [then] near or at hand).

No, it means (EN) at the appointed time in the future (By God the Father) Jesus will cone SHORTLY (in a short time frame, as in God orders him, boom, Jesus is here in nano seconds. ( Or Jesus comes in haste when ordered, or speedily etc. No use going back over again what I put forth here in post #36 of this thread.

You have to look to the post to get the gist. In essence, it proves Jesus was saying at the future time apponted, by the Father, I will return in haste (as soon as the order is given) that is why the word shortly has two number behind it, its rea;;y two words EN and THACOS. The "EN" Greek word is about a space of time, TACHOS or SHORTLY describes the speed it will take as in ZOOM, ZOOM, ZOOM.

 

[Rev. Man Ron]

The paragraph here on Maccabean history is a deflective conundrum. Jesus in Mt 24:15 was referring to someone who would rebel against the 4th world power of Dan 2, Rome. This vile person was introduced in 8:13 as leading a revolution.

I have you on ignore for a reason, there is more to being a Christian sir than calling yourself a Christian,. Which means putting on Christ, being patient always, being kind, forbearing our brothers weaknesses et al. Threatening to place people on ignore because they disagree with you is not Christ like. Replying to posts without reding them is disrespectful, either read and reply or skip it, don't just ush ahead with an agenda, the biggest problem in this world today (besides sin nature) is people talk past each other. I have 40 year experience as a man called of God specifically to Prophecy, and you just think I have no idea what is going on. Meanwhile anyone who says everything happened 2000 years ago has not studied he scriptures in depth, he has studied other men's interpretations. So, if you don't like reading just skip this, because the only reason I replied is to let you know every once in a while I will push the SEE IGNRED replies and if you are respectful, as you were above I will engage. You however started out the exact same way, a deflective conundrum is gobbeldy gook. I have actually studied it all, I did an Exegesis on Dan. 11 where I name every king, player, from Alex the Great to Cleopatra to Jason and Antiochus.

Dan. 2 and Dan. 11 actually have 5 Beasts that come from 4 God loves His riddles. Iron & Clay s not Iron. In Dan. 7:23-24 it says HE.............HE..............HE, is not like the First (meaning Rome).

Dan. 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms(Dan. 7:3 says ALL the Beasts were diverse), and shall devour the whole earth{Being spoken about in the 7 Headed 10 Horned Region ONLY, see below} and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom(E.U. as in 10 = Complete Europe Reunited NOT 10) are ten kings that shall arise(E.U. Formed): and another(Anti-Christ) shall rise after them(Is born in the E.U. and in Greece so says Dan. 8:9); and he shall be diverse from the first(Rome), and he shall subdue three kings.

Dan. 7:11 calls the Beast ONE MAN, Rome was MANY KINGS making on the Fourth Beast the HE is a 5th Beast.

Now, let me show you how this 5 Beast comes to power. And why it is stated he arises out of the Fourth Beast. Read the European Neighborhood Policy Agreements between Israel and all of the Mediterranean Sea Region Nations (THE MANY). The Covenant (Agreements) are in place a per the framework for the Agreements he REUPS or FORCES onto Israel and the region.

Rome Circa 117 AD notice unlike Greece, Babylon, Persia etc. Rome ruled every square inch of the Coastline.

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Now, lets look at the European Neighborhood Policy Agreement maps and add it all up with Dan. 11:40-43.
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1.) Papa Rome
2.) Revived Rome..........BUT they are two different Beasts.

Now if one has read the ENP on Wiki or elsewhere they understand these are indeed Agreements and the word Covenant equals Agreement. So, now looking at Daniel 8:9 we see in which direction the Beast/Little Horn will conquer towards. Then looking at Dan. 11:40-43 we see a play by play of those actions.

Dan. 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn(Psstt, the A.C. has to come out of one of the Four Generals Kingdoms, BUT....which one, well we are TOLD read on), which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

So, God gives us a simple four directional kingdom by using four generals, this Little Horn/A.C. waxes great TOWARDS Israel, that means he Conquers towards Israel, because we know the A.C. conquers Israel, so thus we also know the A.C. conquers TOWARDS the East (Seleucus/Turkey) and TOWARDS the South (Ptolemy/Egypt) so it does not take a genius to understand he can only conquer FROM the Northwest Corridor or Cassandra or Greece. And we know in the end times (NOW) Greece is a part of the E.U. isn't it? Now lets look at the real time battle descriptions in Daniel chapter 11. Lets see if it MATCHES with the Map and who the E.U. has Agreements with as of today.

Dan. 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind(A.C.), with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries(not just Israel), and shall overflow and pass over.

41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.

42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

So, Edom, Moab and Ammon is in Central and South Jordan, where the Petra/Bozrah are is at where Israel will escape unto, small wonders they will not be conquered by the Little Horn/Beast/A.C. but he rolls through countries to get at Israel, Turkey, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon, THEN he conquers all of North Africa according to the maps from 2500 years ago.

So, its very clear, the last Beast is an UNNAMED 5th Beast who is only called the Little Horn by Daniel, but in Daniel 7:11 he is also called a Beast (Man) whose body is DESTROYED and cast into hellfire.

Jesus said the incident would take place in that generation—his. It did and it ruined the country as Dan 9 says. The 490 years were completed with that, but the message of Messiahs loving sacrifice goes on.

This isn't even hard stuff man, LOOK at what I post, you are hung up on THIS GENEATION, and as I explained, it means THE GENERATION that see ALL OF THE SIGNS. I mean I do not even get why anyone even goes there tbh. But pride keeps us from seeing God's truths at times, I have been there brother.

 

[Josheb]

No, it means (EN) at the appointed time in the future (By God the Father) Jesus will cone SHORTLY (in a short time frame, as in God orders him, boom, Jesus is here in nano seconds.

No, it means what it states.

There's no mention of "at the appointed time in the future." That is an addition to the text that later explicitly tells us not to add or subtract from the text! I am well aware that many do so with the first three verses of Revelation, especially modern futurists. They do so at the risk of bringing a curse upon themselves. Many of them, like the Dispensational Premillennialists claim to read scripture literally but when it comes to the opening of Revelation they are enormously inconsistent, invariably doing what was just posted: additions to the text.

It means what it states.

Revelation 1:1-3
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bondservants, the things which must quickly take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John, who testified to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw. Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy, and heed the things which are written in it; for the time is near.

Not only were the revealed events going to happen quickly because the time was near, some of it had already happened.

Revelation 1:19
Therefore write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after these things.

• things which John had seen
• things which are
• things which will take place after these things

That is what is actually literally states. In the revelation of Revelation were things John had already seen (past-tense), things which are or were then taking place (current to his receiving the revelation or present-tense), and things that would take place afterwards - after what had already taken place and after things that were at the time of the revelation. One example of a past event is the woman giving birth in chapter 12. Whether one interprets the son as Israel or Jesus, that event had already taken place.

Not only does the book of Revelation open with the explicit and unembellished statement the events would quickly/soon take place because the time was near but the book also ends that way.

Revelation 22:7-10
And behold, I am coming quickly. Blessed is he who heeds the words of the prophecy of this book. I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed me these things. But he said to me, "Do not do that. I am a fellow servant of yours and of your brethren the prophets and of those who heed the words of this book. Worship God." And he said to me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near.

The book opens and closes with the exact same markers.


Let me encoourage you to do a word study. Go through the New Testament and count how many times God uses the specific word "near" (Gk. = engys). Then count the number of times that word is NOT used to mean near in space or time. You'll find there are no such examples. When God uses the word "near," He ALWAYS means near. He never varies. Do not appeal to 2 Peter 3:8. That verse does not use the word "near."

Lastly,

Revelation 22:18-19
I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.

Read it exactly as written.

The word "near" means near, and there are no caveats or conditions stated in the beginning or the end. Don't add them.
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[Josheb]

@Rev. Man Ron,

What do you know about proper biblical exegesis? Can you list for me what you understand the chief four or five (maybe six ) first steps are supposed to be for any Christian (regardless of his/her respective doctrine(s))?

 

[Rev. Man Ron]

There's no mention of "at the appointed time in the future."

Read the post I mentioned #36. I destroy this idea that Gd meant SHORTLY. If you want to keep pretending be my guest. I have more knowledge of end time events than anyone you ever met. Anyone that will not dig in deep and study, it will be mentioned on judgment day. Study to show yourself approved.

 

[EarlyActs]

I have you on ignore for a reason, there is more to being a Christian sir than calling yourself a Christian,. Which means putting on Christ, being patient always, being kind, forbearing our brothers weaknesses et al. Threatening to place people on ignore because they disagree with you is not Christ like. Replying to posts without reding them is disrespectful, either read and reply or skip it, don't just ush ahead with an agenda, the biggest problem in this world today (besides sin nature) is people talk past each other. I have 40 year experience as a man called of God specifically to Prophecy, and you just think I have no idea what is going on. Meanwhile anyone who says everything happened 2000 years ago has not studied he scriptures in depth, he has studied other men's interpretations. So, if you don't like reading just skip this, because the only reason I replied is to let you know every once in a while I will push the SEE IGNRED replies and if you are respectful, as you were above I will engage. You however started out the exact same way, a deflective conundrum is gobbeldy gook. I have actually studied it all, I did an Exegesis on Dan. 11 where I name every king, player, from Alex the Great to Cleopatra to Jason and Antiochus.

Dan. 2 and Dan. 11 actually have 5 Beasts that come from 4 God loves His riddles. Iron & Clay s not Iron. In Dan. 7:23-24 it says HE.............HE..............HE, is not like the First (meaning Rome).

Dan. 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms(Dan. 7:3 says ALL the Beasts were diverse), and shall devour the whole earth{Being spoken about in the 7 Headed 10 Horned Region ONLY, see below} and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom(E.U. as in 10 = Complete Europe Reunited NOT 10) are ten kings that shall arise(E.U. Formed): and another(Anti-Christ) shall rise after them(Is born in the E.U. and in Greece so says Dan. 8:9); and he shall be diverse from the first(Rome), and he shall subdue three kings.

Dan. 7:11 calls the Beast ONE MAN, Rome was MANY KINGS making on the Fourth Beast the HE is a 5th Beast.

Now, let me show you how this 5 Beast comes to power. And why it is stated he arises out of the Fourth Beast. Read the European Neighborhood Policy Agreements between Israel and all of the Mediterranean Sea Region Nations (THE MANY). The Covenant (Agreements) are in place a per the framework for the Agreements he REUPS or FORCES onto Israel and the region.

Rome Circa 117 AD notice unlike Greece, Babylon, Persia etc. Rome ruled every square inch of the Coastline.

View attachment 343

Now, lets look at the European Neighborhood Policy Agreement maps and add it all up with Dan. 11:40-43.
View attachment 344

1.) Papa Rome
2.) Revived Rome..........BUT they are two different Beasts.

Now if one has read the ENP on Wiki or elsewhere they understand these are indeed Agreements and the word Covenant equals Agreement. So, now looking at Daniel 8:9 we see in which direction the Beast/Little Horn will conquer towards. Then looking at Dan. 11:40-43 we see a play by play of those actions.

Dan. 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn(Psstt, the A.C. has to come out of one of the Four Generals Kingdoms, BUT....which one, well we are TOLD read on), which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

So, God gives us a simple four directional kingdom by using four generals, this Little Horn/A.C. waxes great TOWARDS Israel, that means he Conquers towards Israel, because we know the A.C. conquers Israel, so thus we also know the A.C. conquers TOWARDS the East (Seleucus/Turkey) and TOWARDS the South (Ptolemy/Egypt) so it does not take a genius to understand he can only conquer FROM the Northwest Corridor or Cassandra or Greece. And we know in the end times (NOW) Greece is a part of the E.U. isn't it? Now lets look at the real time battle descriptions in Daniel chapter 11. Lets see if it MATCHES with the Map and who the E.U. has Agreements with as of today.

Dan. 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind(A.C.), with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries(not just Israel), and shall overflow and pass over.

41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.

42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

So, Edom, Moab and Ammon is in Central and South Jordan, where the Petra/Bozrah are is at where Israel will escape unto, small wonders they will not be conquered by the Little Horn/Beast/A.C. but he rolls through countries to get at Israel, Turkey, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon, THEN he conquers all of North Africa according to the maps from 2500 years ago.

So, its very clear, the last Beast is an UNNAMED 5th Beast who is only called the Little Horn by Daniel, but in Daniel 7:11 he is also called a Beast (Man) whose body is DESTROYED and cast into hellfire.


This isn't even hard stuff man, LOOK at what I post, you are hung up on THIS GENEATION, and as I explained, it means THE GENERATION that see ALL OF THE SIGNS. I mean I do not even get why anyone even goes there tbh. But pride keeps us from seeing God's truths at times, I have been there brother.

No one is called to prophecy Acts 1:8-9

 

[EarlyActs]

To know the NT we must put its history together accurately.

 

[EarlyActs]

Read the post I mentioned #36. I destroy this idea that Gd meant SHORTLY. If you want to keep pretending be my guest. I have more knowledge of end time events than anyone you ever met. Anyone that will not dig in deep and study, it will be mentioned on judgment day. Study to show yourself approved.

The arrogance of ‘more than anybody’ is a disqualification.

All the promises to the fathers were fulfilled in the resurrection, Acts 13.

 

[EarlyActs]

I have you on ignore for a reason, there is more to being a Christian sir than calling yourself a Christian,. Which means putting on Christ, being patient always, being kind, forbearing our brothers weaknesses et al. Threatening to place people on ignore because they disagree with you is not Christ like. Replying to posts without reding them is disrespectful, either read and reply or skip it, don't just ush ahead with an agenda, the biggest problem in this world today (besides sin nature) is people talk past each other. I have 40 year experience as a man called of God specifically to Prophecy, and you just think I have no idea what is going on. Meanwhile anyone who says everything happened 2000 years ago has not studied he scriptures in depth, he has studied other men's interpretations. So, if you don't like reading just skip this, because the only reason I replied is to let you know every once in a while I will push the SEE IGNRED replies and if you are respectful, as you were above I will engage. You however started out the exact same way, a deflective conundrum is gobbeldy gook. I have actually studied it all, I did an Exegesis on Dan. 11 where I name every king, player, from Alex the Great to Cleopatra to Jason and Antiochus.

Dan. 2 and Dan. 11 actually have 5 Beasts that come from 4 God loves His riddles. Iron & Clay s not Iron. In Dan. 7:23-24 it says HE.............HE..............HE, is not like the First (meaning Rome).

Dan. 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms(Dan. 7:3 says ALL the Beasts were diverse), and shall devour the whole earth{Being spoken about in the 7 Headed 10 Horned Region ONLY, see below} and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom(E.U. as in 10 = Complete Europe Reunited NOT 10) are ten kings that shall arise(E.U. Formed): and another(Anti-Christ) shall rise after them(Is born in the E.U. and in Greece so says Dan. 8:9); and he shall be diverse from the first(Rome), and he shall subdue three kings.

Dan. 7:11 calls the Beast ONE MAN, Rome was MANY KINGS making on the Fourth Beast the HE is a 5th Beast.

Now, let me show you how this 5 Beast comes to power. And why it is stated he arises out of the Fourth Beast. Read the European Neighborhood Policy Agreements between Israel and all of the Mediterranean Sea Region Nations (THE MANY). The Covenant (Agreements) are in place a per the framework for the Agreements he REUPS or FORCES onto Israel and the region.

Rome Circa 117 AD notice unlike Greece, Babylon, Persia etc. Rome ruled every square inch of the Coastline.

View attachment 343

Now, lets look at the European Neighborhood Policy Agreement maps and add it all up with Dan. 11:40-43.
View attachment 344

1.) Papa Rome
2.) Revived Rome..........BUT they are two different Beasts.

Now if one has read the ENP on Wiki or elsewhere they understand these are indeed Agreements and the word Covenant equals Agreement. So, now looking at Daniel 8:9 we see in which direction the Beast/Little Horn will conquer towards. Then looking at Dan. 11:40-43 we see a play by play of those actions.

Dan. 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn(Psstt, the A.C. has to come out of one of the Four Generals Kingdoms, BUT....which one, well we are TOLD read on), which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

So, God gives us a simple four directional kingdom by using four generals, this Little Horn/A.C. waxes great TOWARDS Israel, that means he Conquers towards Israel, because we know the A.C. conquers Israel, so thus we also know the A.C. conquers TOWARDS the East (Seleucus/Turkey) and TOWARDS the South (Ptolemy/Egypt) so it does not take a genius to understand he can only conquer FROM the Northwest Corridor or Cassandra or Greece. And we know in the end times (NOW) Greece is a part of the E.U. isn't it? Now lets look at the real time battle descriptions in Daniel chapter 11. Lets see if it MATCHES with the Map and who the E.U. has Agreements with as of today.

Dan. 11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind(A.C.), with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries(not just Israel), and shall overflow and pass over.

41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.

42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.

So, Edom, Moab and Ammon is in Central and South Jordan, where the Petra/Bozrah are is at where Israel will escape unto, small wonders they will not be conquered by the Little Horn/Beast/A.C. but he rolls through countries to get at Israel, Turkey, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon, THEN he conquers all of North Africa according to the maps from 2500 years ago.

So, its very clear, the last Beast is an UNNAMED 5th Beast who is only called the Little Horn by Daniel, but in Daniel 7:11 he is also called a Beast (Man) whose body is DESTROYED and cast into hellfire.


This isn't even hard stuff man, LOOK at what I post, you are hung up on THIS GENEATION, and as I explained, it means THE GENERATION that see ALL OF THE SIGNS. I mean I do not even get why anyone even goes there tbh. But pride keeps us from seeing God's truths at times, I have been there brother.

Bc of Luke 23:28 which ends by quoting Hos 10. It is a biological time stamp that he was referring to that generation, and the signs showed.

 

[EarlyActs]

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● Rev 16:21 . . And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone
about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of
the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

* Talents were gross units of gold weighing from 75-100 pounds. That would be a
preposterous amount of gold to own in our day when it's current market value is
nearly $1,970 an ounce, but not so bad back there when it was strictly money
instead of traded as a commodity.

Dropping a lumps of ice that size from the sky all over the globe will be like a deadly
implosion smashing, bashing, and crushing most everything it touches: homes, barns,
super markets, strip malls, sports arenas, theaters, forests, pastures, crops, vehicles,
etc. Noah's rainfall was likely pretty destructive too but not like this. That was at least
liquid; this will be solid.

The natural world will surely experience significant damage among the critters who
live above ground, e.g. hogs, deer, elk, ducks, geese, turkeys, cows, mustangs,
monkeys, gorillas, lions, tigers, hyenas, elephants, giraffes, butterflies, moths,
tortoises, etc.

Just imagine being caught out in the open when that hail starts. Finding adequate
shelter from such a bombardment of ice will be very difficult and no doubt
frightened people will be shrieking and screaming in mortal panic.

Curiously, numbers of people will know the hail is from God but it won't persuade
them to consider making peace with Him, instead; the hail will just make 'em
angry.
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I did an inventory of the judgements, and by the 10th judgement, the world population was at -275%, before figuring out how the earth survives contact with a star…

The material is Jewish apocalyptic, dramatized exaggeration, often Levitical symbolism. See Barnet on the Rev in BEHIND THE SCENES OF THE NT. It is very much oriented to what Little Asian believers would face from both Roman paganism and from Judaizers.

 

[EarlyActs]

I did an inventory of the judgements, and by the 10th judgement, the world population was at -275%, before figuring out how the earth survives contact with a star…

The material is Jewish apocalyptic, dramatized exaggeration, often Levitical symbolism. See Barnet on the Rev in BEHIND THE SCENES OF THE NT. It is very much oriented to what Little Asian believers would face from both Roman paganism and from Judaizers.

There are lessons but not predictions to sell. to the cross-eyed masses