The Trinity

[Red Baker]

Jesus used blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (Mt 12:31) to indicate attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to Satan (Mt 12:24).

And we can see why. . .as long as one attributes the work of the Holy Spirit to Satan, one can never be convinced by those miracles as bearing witness to Jesus, since they attribute the miracles to Satan.

So denial of the Trinity would not fall in this category.

The Trinity controversy would not, I agree, yet the denial of Jesus' deity does~for one cannot speak against the Jesus being the Blessed God forever, and still be a child of God.

Romans 9:5​

“Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.”

 

[Runningman]

And you need to learn how to spell~"comments"....plus you need to ask for mercy, prehapes mercy may be given, that I do not know, nor can I even promise that to you, In the scriptures we never read of not even one Sadducees who ever came to the knowledge of the truth, the Pharisees, yes, but not one of them! They denied to many cardinals truths of the scriptures, much like your false cult.

What do I need to ask for mercy for according to Scripture? And it's funny you bring up the Pharisees because you have more in common with them than I do. For one, you also falsely accuse Jesus of being God and ignore all of his denials.

Are you aware that if you make a human being your God then you will be judged mercilessly for idolatry? It's a damnable offense, but it's also pardonable if you repent.

 

[Runningman]

Brother, this is a wonderful testimony!

Instead of just assuming someone is a brother, perhaps you should be a bit more flexible. Not everyone is a male here.

 

[Rella]

What do I need to ask for mercy for according to Scripture? And it's funny you bring up the Pharisees because you have more in common with them than I do. For one, you also falsely accuse Jesus of being God and ignore all of his denials.

Are you aware that if you make a human being your God then you will be judged mercilessly for idolatry? It's a damnable offense, but it's also pardonable if you repent.

And are you aware that if you are wrong, that denying Jesus is who we are told He is is blaspheme?

 

[Rella]

Instead of just assuming someone is a brother, perhaps you should be a bit more flexible. Not everyone is a male here.

Hmmmm??? Written by a tran?

I have always been called a man by those who do not know me. Had to make some ID adjustments because I am not. That should be mandatory to be noted below our names.

 

[Red Baker]

What do I need to ask for mercy for according to Scripture? And it's funny you bring up the Pharisees because you have more in common with them than I do.

Phariseeism is in the best of God's children sad to say. But, I only mentioned them in passing, I truly went after the Sadducees, which you men are their children. You have a reading comprehension problem~or, select reading, or maybe both.

For one, you also falsely accuse Jesus of being God and ignore all of his denials.

Provide just one scripture where Jesus denied being the Son of God, which by that statement alone, when spoken by him, he was saying that he is equal to God, even his enemies understood this truth.

John 10:30-33~"I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

John 8:56-59~"Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by."

Are you aware that if you make a human being your God then you will be judged mercilessly for idolatry? It's a damnable offense, but it's also pardonable if you repent.

I do realize that truth, yet Jesus was more than a man, he was God manifest in human flesh.

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1st Timothy 3:16​

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”

Do you know if you reject THIS JESUS, than there is no hope for you?

Acts 4:12​

“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”

 

[Red Baker]

Instead of just assuming someone is a brother, perhaps you should be a bit more flexible. Not everyone is a male here.

Brother or sister, I sense a close kinship! We have the same father, part of a chosen generation. Blood is thicker than blood! Familial bonds will always be stronger than other relationships.

Only God's children understand this, others do not. Are you jealous?

 

[Eleanor]

The Trinity controversy would not, I agree, yet the denial of Jesus' deity does~for one cannot speak against the Jesus being the Blessed God forever, and still be a child of God.

Denial of his deity is not what Jesus meant by blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (Mt 12:24, 31).

 

[Red Baker]

Denial of his deity is not what Jesus meant by blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (Mt 12:24, 31).

I understand that~but, I also understand that if any man does not abide in the doctrine of Christ, he's an antichrist.

2 John 1:9​

“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.”

 

[Eleanor]

I understand that~but, I also understand that if any man does not abide in the doctrine of Christ, he's an antichrist.

Is anyone not abiding in the doctrine of the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (Mt 12:24, 31)?

 

[grace2]

It's a damnable offense, but it's also pardonable if you repent.

They have to come out of worshipping a man-made God church.

Or they are living in a sin daily.

 

[Red Baker]

Is anyone not abiding in the doctrine of the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (Mt 12:24, 31)?

Yes, but that's not the topic of this discussion. I will only say this: anyone that boldly denies the supernatural operation and power of the Spirit of God, then for that person, there is no hope/forgiveness for them, for they have rejected and denied the only hope they have to be regenerated by the power of the Spirit of God. I may take this as far as to say, anyone that boldly and proudly rejects the testimony of the Spirit of God as far as creation, etc., may very well put themselves under this curse.

Maybe this is not what you are asking me, it was kinda an obscured question.

 

[Runningman]

They have to come out of worshipping a man-made God church.

Or they are living in a sin daily.

Pleading ignorance, especially after exposure to and rejection of the truth, isn't a valid argument against sin and judgement in Scripture, but repentance is only one step away.

 

[Carbon]

Brother, this is a wonderful testimony!

One problem though, she's not your brother.

 

[Eleanor]

Yes. They only ever proof text, dictate, and when that fails, insult. But never, never, will they actually address what we say. They cannot. All they can do is present proof texts that when removed from the whole, make contradictions in the Bible. And that is because they are standing on sinking sand, when just a hands breadth away from where they are, is the Rock, being offered and with the very words of God. That is as far as we can go, it is our duty, at least until we are convicted otherwise by God Himself, (and we are quite capable of getting in our own way in that matter), for none have ever heard the voice of the Shepherd and followed Him, without the regeneration from above by the Holy Spirit. Until then, it was foolishness to us also.
It is interesting the different ways God reaches us, and how it is always according to who we are as individuals. For me, it was my adult search for that absolute truth that I knew must exist, and I wanted to find it. I looked everywhere but Christianity, as my attitude was that that had been tried as the absolute truth and failed to be what it claimed. Even though I had no idea what it claimed, other than that the Bible was that truth.

So, in my heart and mind, the Bible was a good book, but it did not contain absolute truth, and was of no help for finding it. What changed was waking up one morning knowing---not just believing or giving assent to it---but knowing that every word in it was The Truth, including what it said about Jesus. And I began to read it to find out what those words were. Not randomly but from the beginning and straight through, both testaments simultaneously. And there is no end to the learning this side of the consummation.

Been there, done that!

 

[Arial]

Been there, done that!

Amen .