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It isn't about someone grazing around the edges. The problem is that you think everything has to be addressed to validate any post that only addresses the particular issue that you are presenting. And when any specific thing is presented to the specific thing that you posted, instead of dealing with that (and in this case what was said about the Acts and Thess passages that you say are about a pre-trib rapture of the saints from the earth) you simple ignore it all together and with a deflective jump you evidently think is invisible, divert to another set or Scriptures.
So, deal with the first----what was said in post #155---and either refute/challenge it with scriptural support, not suppositional support and declarations. Or, if you find that it is not possible to refute/challenge what was said, be a man, and acknowledge it. I would ask you to do that before I address the specific deflection of this response to post 155, but I know you won't ever do that. My answering the accusation is not for your sake, it is for the sake of rightly handling the word of God.
Here is the passage:
Rev 19:11-16
Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is the Word of God. And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the wine press of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords. (Side note: here we see he is already King of kings, and Lord of lords.)
That, and what is depicted in the following verses 17-21, is the final judgement. Not some seven year period of tribulation.
And note carefully what it says. "Then I saw heaven opened." This is not a return of Jesus at all but heaven opened for us to see through images what Jesus is doing in the unseen, spiritual realm. The heavenly perspective of what we see taking place on earth. There is no way to graphically portray it in all its meaning, other than through images---images embedded in the OT, so that the original recipients would understand the full impact and get comfort from it. They, unlike you and all generations removed from this aspect of Hebrew cultural norms of expressing things, were not unfamiliar with symbolic apocalyptic writing. They would know what it meant that in a vision, John saw heaven opened. He was seeing into an invisible to us, realm. He was being shown what Christ was doing in spite of what the situation looked like from our perspective. He is crushing the serpents head, and no matter how bad things are in our world, his victory and their preservation are secure. They would understand what all the images in the vision were representing, because they were intensely familiar with the OT. They would know for example that a horse being white represents righteousness or judgment. A harbinger of conquest.
It is Jesus and the armies of heaven who are doing battle in those passages, and they are doing it from heaven. What we see on the earth is the result of what takes place in heaven. And though the final judgement is expressed in these passages, giving them and us the secure knowledge of the ending, gives all generations in any and all situations the same comfort. No matter what we must endure, we are safe. God will always carry us through to the other side, whether it be 10,000 days before he returns or one minute before he returns.
