I agree. What you have presented is a photo-type of what is to come.
Thanks for prefacing that with IMO. I have a real problem with people predicting, interpreting prophetic scriptures and so on speaking as though THEY have it right. God will show us all for the fools we are (IMO, lol).
There are those who speculate that the "chip"...or mark....will alter ones DNA to the point they are no longer "human" and no longer have the ability to be washed by the blood of Christ.
You're welcome....It isn't hard to look at today's technology and see how Rev 13 can easily come to fruition. NOW is the only time in mans history that technology has advanced to this point.
Not exactly its in what Jesus did not us but salvation is proven through works
@CrowCross and everyone else in this thread and all end times threads, who are making flat statements of fact concerning the interpretation of Revelation.
I have listened to the other interpretations and find them wanting.
Salvation is proven through the works of Christ Jesus.
I don't know if you have read about the advances lately of implanted brain interfaces. This thing could be a lot more intimate than we can imagine or like. Rev 8 and 9 does not preclude even electromagnetic wave communication, nor whatever may be 'the next step', since we don't know the amount of time between Rev 9 and Rev 13. A lot of infrastructure can be rebuilt in a very short time, and we don't know what form that infrastructure will take.
Salvation is a free give from God we are saved by grace through faith its not what we do but what Jesus did for us.
Yes, I have read about what Musk is doing.
That is true, though much of the infrastructure can be space based..like the Starlink satellite as the in-between communications between the mark...readers...and the beast computer system.
I was assuming that Rev is mostly linear.
OK. Thanks for the clarification.
That is what I meant like a mark that tells where to scan (for instance if it is a chip inside/under the skin. However, the chip itself may not be the mark. And yes, all you say makes sense, even if it isn't spelled out in scripture. This is eschatology. This is prophecy. It is literal in the sense that it is an event that will happen, and it will tie people into the economy through the beast. (Hence the mark is his name, or number).
Better wording then is we are sealed by God in salvation. God does not need us to prove our salvation since it is from Him. However, our salvation will be seen because we will have works that validate our faith. It is the faith that saved, alone, but its existence is proven by how we live/work.8
You folks are not considering all scriptures, thereby, you cannot understand what it means to buy and sell. Buy and selling has reference to moving freely within, and among, the false churches of the latter day, and only those men and women who have the mark of the beast, will be able to do so. The mark of the beast is the depraved human nature unconverted, men whom God has left to themselves, the two third, or, the majority of professing believers. These men and women alone can operate within the harlot churches of the last days. Actually, many of the great among them, become filthy rich, and live like kings. It is NOW going on right before our eyes! These men and women have no such silly thing as a micro chip, etc., for them to do so~all they need is a lying spirit working through them that allows them to buy and sell, or live among them. The Benny Hinn's of the harlot church, along with many others, do quite well.
And everyone who disagrees with what you present would say exactly the same thing about you. And they would be correct in doing so. No conversation can be had when one approaches the subject as you and most do. As authoritative, indisputable fact, That is why I suggested a different approach. I have been learning to do that myself and it makes for a much more constructive exchange.
That is actually speaking of building on a different foundation than the one laid by the apostles. All those works will be burned up. I am guessing that would be true Christians who abandon the foundational (full and only) doctrines given in our Bible, use them carelessly and with little knowledge or just make some up. Such as we see all over the post-modern church.
What makes me doubtful about this view is that John doesn't present it to his audience as if it was something that they could not possibly understand in the time they were told it, using the imagery/symbolism they would understand at the time instead of using imagery/symbolism that couldn't be understood until 2000 years in the future.
Why? Any point in particular you want to make?
