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The history of the church.

Obviscation. Are you able to answer directly with integrity?
You aren't even trying to understand. Shouldn't we hold protestants to the same standard? Does sin disprove a Church?
The Lord teaches me to avoid foolish conversation.
All of us should be wise in our thoughts....

2 Pet 3:17 Therefore, beloved, since you are forewarned, be on your guard not to be led into the error of the unprincipled and to fall from your own stability.

James 1:5-6 If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you. But when you ask, you must believe and not doubt, because the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind.

Acts 5:32 We are witnesses of these things, as is the holy Spirit that God has given to those who obey him.

Proverbs 26:21
As coals are to burning coals, and wood to fire; so is a contentious man to kindle strife.

Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the LORD with all your heart, on your own intelligence do not rely; In all your ways be mindful of him, and he will make straight your paths.​
 
This has become a 1 Tim. 6:3 situation.
 
1Tim 6:20-21 O Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you. Avoid profane babbling and the absurdities of so-called knowledge.
By professing it, some people have deviated from the faith.
 
Thought I would ask. :)
I think he means he only reads what you post to him. I doubt he is reading the posts that are covering the OP's ---that history of the church. I am finding it very interesting btw and instructive.
 
I think he means he only reads what you post to him. I doubt he is reading the posts that are covering the OP's ---that history of the church. I am finding it very interesting btw and instructive.
Well if he read the history, he might even agree that the RCC is apostate.
 
Christ established the Church, we all know. But the papacy? Nope. Wrong. ;)
Clement of Alexandria

[T]he blessed Peter, the chosen, the preeminent, the first among the disciples, for whom alone with himself the Savior paid the tribute [Matt. 17:27], quickly grasped and understood their meaning. And what does he say? "Behold, we have left all and have followed you" [Matt. 19:2 7, Mark 10:28] (Who is the Rich Man That is Saved? 21:3-5 [A.D. 200]).
 
Okay, we are in agreement then. So, why do you stay?
Why did noah stay in the ark?

Jn 6:67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

There is only one savior
One church
One new covenant
One household of faith
One body of Christ
One communion of saints

One fold one shepherd Jn 10:16

One ark of salvation! 1 pet 3:20-21
 
Please read Isa 22:21-22
The Old Testament with these passages is a type of Christ, in this case, this priest was a type of Christ, You should probably go back and look again and really consider.


Look also at Revelation 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

You are giving a mere man the description given of Christ? That's blasphemous if you ask me.
 
Why did noah stay in the ark?

Jn 6:67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

There is only one savior
One church
One new covenant
One household of faith
One body of Christ
One communion of saints

One fold one shepherd Jn 10:16

One ark of salvation! 1 pet 3:20-21
So, where does your pope come into this?
 
Joachim Jeremias in an extended passage from Kittel's Greek standard TDNT --

"...the key of David is now (3:7) the key which Christ has in His hands as the promised shoot of David. This is the key to God's eternal palace. The meaning of the description is that Christ has unlimited sovereignty over the future world. He alone controls grace and judgment. He decides irrevocably whether a man will have access to the salvation of the last age or whether it will be witheld from him...Materially, then, the keys of the kingdom of God are not different from the key of David...This is confirmed by the fact that in Mt. 16:19, as in Rev. 3:7, Jesus is the One who controls them. But in what sense is the power of the keys given to Peter? ....the handing over of the keys is not just future. It is regarded as taking place now... There are numerous instances to show that in biblical and later Jewish usage handing over the keys implies full authorisation. He who has the keys has full authority. Thus, when Eliakim is given the keys of the palace he is appointed the royal steward (Is. 22:22, cf. 15). When Jesus is said to hold the keys of death and Hades (Rev. 1:18) or the key of David (3:7), this means that He is, not the doorkeeper, but the Lord of the world of the dead and the palace of God...Hence handing over the keys implies appointment to full authority. He who has the keys has on the one side control, e.g., over the council chamber or treasury, cf. Mt. 13:52, and on the other the power to allow or forbid entry, cf. Rev. 3:7...Mt. 23:13 leads us a step further. This passage is particularly important for an understanding of Mt. 16:19 because it is the only one in the NT which presupposes an image not found elsewhere, namely, that of the keys of the kingdom (royal dominion) of God...Mt. 23:13 shows us that the scribes of the time of Jesus claimed to possess the power of the keys in respect of this kingdom...They exercised this by declaring the will of God in Holy Scripture in the form of preaching, teaching and judging. Thereby they opened up for the congregation a way into this kingdom...by acting as spiritual leaders of the congregation....As Lord of the Messianic community He thus transferred the keys of God's royal dominion, i.e. the full authority of proclamation, to Peter...In Rabb. lit. binding and loosing are almost always used in respect of halakhic decisions...The scribe binds (declares to be forbidden) and looses (declares to be permitted)...In Mt. 16:19, then, we are to regard the authority to bind and to loose as judicial. It is the authority to pronounce judgment on unbelievers and to promise forgiveness to believers." (Jeremias from Kittel/Bromiley, Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, volume 3, page 748-751)
 
The Old Testament with these passages is a type of Christ, in this case, this priest was a type of Christ, You should probably go back and look again and really consider.


Look also at Revelation 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

You are giving a mere man the description given of Christ? That's blasphemous if you ask me.
And Christ is king wjo before ascending appointed peter to be the prime minister and and the apostles the cabinet officers

No king administers His own kingdom especially since Christ ascended
 
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