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Being persecuted has nothing to do with it. I never said the great commission----which is spreading the gospel to all nations, not also to subdue the earth---has ended. And I never said it ended when there is world wide persecution of the church. I only said the persecution would get worse and for all Christians.The great commission is said to be in force "even to the end of the age" and, according to Paul. the ends of the ages fell in the first century (1 Cor. 10:11). So either the era of the great commission ended back in the first century or the end of the ends hasn't yet come and the great commission is still in force. Whether persecuted or not, God expects all the nations to be baptized.
I am very optimistic. But not in hoping that this world we presently live in will get all bees and butterflies and rainbows. I am optimistic in the hope that awaits me.Are you optimistic? What is the result of the government fostered worldwide persecution of the Church? Is it the cultural mandate accomplished, or not? Is the great commission realized, or not? Has God commanded these things with no expectation they will actually happen?
I can only give possibilities as to what this world wide persecution of the church will be, though we have evidence in Rev of the results for Christians. Christianity could be outlawed worldwide for example. With penalties for violation passed that might range from the least to the worst. Churches could be outlawed, Christian gatherings, Bibles, Christian books and words. Rev may be telling us there will come a time that Christians are not allowed to buy or sell, therefore eat.
There is not cultural mandate in force for this world. There is a cultural mandate for God's people, to live like God's people.
LOL. Kind of a strawman question as the cultural mandate at creation is no longer possible since God Himself cursed the earth. and threw man out of the Garden he was to have dominion over. As to the great commision, it is moving right along just as God has purposed it would. But might I remind you that God also commanded that we be perfect in obedience knowing that we could not be. The fact that we could not be did not change His commands at all.Is the great commission realized, or not? Has God commanded these things with no expectation they will actually happen?
I guess if one is reading Revelation as a preterist thinking most of it has already happened and won't happen again, you would miss that part.Just interested in how that worldwide persecution is reconciled with worldwide rule and worldwide great commission.