Testing the spirits

[jeremiah1five]

you think this is from God ?

" Laughing, crying, slain, falling backward, etc., are all true manifestations of the Holy Spirit. "

you left out barking, growling, roaring like a lion. convulsing, levitating ,

There's a reason why I did.
I doubt those are from the Holy Spirit.

 

[civic]

There's a reason why I did.
I doubt those are from the Holy Spirit.

yet those all happen with the others in the list at the same place at the same time with the same people

 

[jeremiah1five]

yet those all happen with the others in the list at the same place at the same time with the same people

In the video the contrast was eastern religion and "Christianity."

 

[civic]

In the video the contrast was eastern religion and "Christianity."

ok I didn't watch the video.

 

[ChristB4us]

I didn't say they were signs and wonders. I said they were manifestations of the Holy Spirit in His people.

You listed these "manifestations" below as being of the Holy Spirit.

Laughing, crying, slain, falling backward, etc., are all true manifestations of the Holy Spirit.

And I am telling you that those are signs and wonders found in the world before Pentecost had come when His disciples got saved.

An Intro to Kundalini Meditation

"Kundalini teachings first appeared in The Upanishads, a collection of Hindu religious texts. Estimates suggest composition of these sacred writings began somewhere around 800 to 500 B.C." ~~~ end of quote
When we trace Hinduism to its roots;

Hinduism: Basic Beliefs

"The fundamental teaching of Hinduism, or Vedanta, is that a human being's basic nature is not confined to the body or the mind. Beyond both of these is the spirit or the spark of God within the soul.

Hinduism or Sanatana Dharma ("eternal spiritual path") began about 4000 years ago in India. It was the religion of an ancient people known as the Aryans ("noble people") whose philosophy, religion, and customs are recorded in their sacred texts known as the Vedas. These texts were initially handed down by word of mouth from teacher to student. It was not until much later that they were actually written down. Archeological evidence from the Indus Valley civilization of northwestern India helps to establish Hinduism as the world's oldest living religion."

Skipped to last paragraph for the ancient writings:

"Hindu ancient, sacred texts were written in Sanskrit, the language of ancient India. The Vedas are the oldest - about 3000 years old. They are a collection of hymns, prayers, and magic spells. The Upanishads are stories and parables told by gurus (teachers) to their students The Mahabharata is a story of a war between two royal families. The Bhagavad Gita is a very popular part of this text. The Ramayana is a story of the god Rama and the rescue of his wife Sita from Ravana, the evil demon king." ~~~~end of quotes pulled from link

So these manifestations you listed as being of the Holy Spirit was in the world before Pentecost and therefore cannot be of Him at all.

Otherwise how can God call those sinners out from that religion and away from those spirits if you believe God would copycat Satan's manifestations?

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil. 23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it. 25 Brethren, pray for us.

I hope others that are reading this are praying that Jesus will help you see the truth in His words in discerning the spirits as not of the Lord at all.

Everything God has done man copies. Or at least tries to copy if it's in their power.
So, for me, the video is disturbing because these manifestations of the Holy Spirit's Presence in His people is being passed off as counterfeit by someone seemingly a Christian.
When the Holy Spirit arrives and manifests His Presence those being ministered to KNOW it is God.
But those witnessing can only guess. Just like Simon Magus. He SAW but wasn't among them being touched by God.
One more thing...
No flesh shall glory in His Presence.
So, be careful when so-called Christians attempt to call good evil.
Especially when they call evil good.

You said it, brother; You had thought I was wrong in calling those manifestation ( Laughing, crying, slain, falling backward, etc., are all true manifestations of the Holy Spirit ) of the "Holy Spirit" as evil when I am telling you that is not of the Holy Spirit because those manifestations were in the world before Pentecost had come with the real God's gift of tongue for God to speak to the people in their native tongue for why it is not for private use just because it is gibberish nonsense and cannot be interpreted. It is because it is gibberish nonsense and cannot be interpreted is why that is not the real God's gift of tongues and that was not the Holy Spirit that came that gave them that pagan tongue because God is not the author of confusion... period.

Return to your first love, the Lord Jesus Christ or else continue committing spiritual fornication and thereby risk being left behind at the pre great tribulation rapture event to be resurrected after the great tribulation as vessels unto dishonor in His House, vessels of wood and earth, but still in His House to serve the King of kings on earth.

Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Matthew 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. 28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. 29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God. 30 And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last.

Revelation 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; 19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. 20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. 24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden. 25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is the only way to approach God the Father by John 14:6 and by only honoring the Son is how you can honor the Father per John 5:22-23. Climbing up any other way is the action of a thief John 10:1 & a worker of iniquity as antichrist is applied as "instead of Christ" for why chasing after the "holy spirit" for signs are really the spirits of the antichrist in seeking to be filled again and again and again.

That is why you & others hunger for more of God because you have moved away from resting place in Jesus Christ as always Spirit-filled.

John 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

Matthew 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

That is how you are to apply the ten virgins parable as they are the kingdom of heaven as saved but the foolish were out to the market still to be filled with oil for why they were in iniquity and not ready to go, because being in that kingdom of Heaven means you are always Spirit filled. Therefore by that iniquity, He does not know them and therefore missed out on the wedding reception in Heaven even though they are still the kingdom of heaven albeit left behind as in not received for the wedding reception in that kingdom of heaven Matthew 25:1-13 KJV

So decide this day whom you will serve, the Lord Jesus Christ or something else in His name?

I had chosen Him, but He led me to ask Him to help me do that and He did by keeping me from following after the holy laughter movement in serving it to seek the glory of those spirits of the antichrist in that movement.

 

[jeremiah1five]

You listed these "manifestations" below as being of the Holy Spirit.
And I am telling you that those are signs and wonders found in the world before Pentecost had come when His disciples got saved.

So these manifestations you listed as being of the Holy Spirit was in the world before Pentecost and therefore cannot be of Him at all.

Have you ever experienced such Holy Spirit manifestations as crying, laughing, and being slain?
Then you are in no position to judge righteous judgment.

You said it, brother; You had thought I was wrong in calling those manifestation ( Laughing, crying, slain, falling backward, etc., are all true manifestations of the Holy Spirit ) of the "Holy Spirit" as evil when I am telling you that is not of the Holy Spirit because those manifestations were in the world before Pentecost had come with the real God's gift of tongue for God to speak to the people in their native tongue for why it is not for private use just because it is gibberish nonsense and cannot be interpreted. It is because it is gibberish nonsense and cannot be interpreted is why that is not the real God's gift of tongues and that was not the Holy Spirit that came that gave them that pagan tongue because God is not the author of confusion... period.

Return to your first love, the Lord Jesus Christ or else continue committing spiritual fornication and thereby risk being left behind at the pre great tribulation rapture event to be resurrected after the great tribulation as vessels unto dishonor in His House, vessels of wood and earth, but still in His House to serve the King of kings on earth.

Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Matthew 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. 28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. 29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God. 30 And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last.

Revelation 2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; 19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. 20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. 24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden. 25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is the only way to approach God the Father by John 14:6 and by only honoring the Son is how you can honor the Father per John 5:22-23. Climbing up any other way is the action of a thief John 10:1 & a worker of iniquity as antichrist is applied as "instead of Christ" for why chasing after the "holy spirit" for signs are really the spirits of the antichrist in seeking to be filled again and again and again.

That is why you & others hunger for more of God because you have moved away from resting place in Jesus Christ as always Spirit-filled.

John 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

Matthew 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

That is how you are to apply the ten virgins parable as they are the kingdom of heaven as saved but the foolish were out to the market still to be filled with oil for why they were in iniquity and not ready to go, because being in that kingdom of Heaven means you are always Spirit filled. Therefore by that iniquity, He does not know them and therefore missed out on the wedding reception in Heaven even though they are still the kingdom of heaven albeit left behind as in not received for the wedding reception in that kingdom of heaven Matthew 25:1-13 KJV

So decide this day whom you will serve, the Lord Jesus Christ or something else in His name?

I had chosen Him, but He led me to ask Him to help me do that and He did by keeping me from following after the holy laughter movement in serving it to seek the glory of those spirits of the antichrist in that movement.

It's a personal relationship between God and His child.
Who are you to determine in what way God chooses to speak to His child?
If you haven't experienced tongues or prophecy or crying or laughing or slain then you cannot judge.
You may very well be calling good, evil.
And that's dangerous...
To the Church as false teachers from within.

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. 2 Pet. 2:1-3.

 

[ChristB4us]

Have you ever experienced such Holy Spirit manifestations as crying, laughing, and being slain?
Then you are in no position to judge righteous judgment.

Since those manifestations was in the world before Pentecost, and Jesus said this below;

John 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

And Paul said this:

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

I can safely judge it as not of the Lord at all because God will not copycat Satanic stuff that was in the world before Pentecost.

And since it was in the world before Pentecost, you cannot test the spirits, let alone abstain from all appearances of evil if you believe that to be of God.

How can sinners back then & Now know they are delivered from their former manifestations of the devil if you believe that is not of the devil?

 

[jeremiah1five]

Since those manifestations was in the world before Pentecost, and Jesus said this below;

John 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

And Paul said this:

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

I can safely judge it as not of the Lord at all because God will not copycat Satanic stuff that was in the world before Pentecost.

And since it was in the world before Pentecost, you cannot test the spirits, let alone abstain from all appearances of evil if you believe that to be of God.

How can sinners back then & Now know they are delivered from their former manifestations of the devil if you believe that is not of the devil?

Well, let me tell you.
I have heard the voice of God on two occasions.
He's spoken to me while under the anointing through Scripture several times.
I have spoken in tongues under the anointing several times.
I have laughed and cried and been slain in the Spirit under the anointing several times.
So, I can judge and say those videos are denying Christ.
They deny the Life of Christ in His people and therefore are antichrist.
And you support the attack on Christ through the posting of those videos and pass them off as truth when they are not.
I can testify to that and to my experiences under the anointing of the Spirit of God.

 

[ChristB4us]

Well, let me tell you.
I have heard the voice of God on two occasions.
He's spoken to me while under the anointing through Scripture several times.
I have spoken in tongues under the anointing several times.
I have laughed and cried and been slain in the Spirit under the anointing several times.

Some even experience healing as @Wordsmith but there is this:

The History of Tongues: Pagan Practices

"Ecstatic language was a common form of worship in pagan temples.i It was well established in Ancient Byblos (1100 BC). Plato (429-347 BC) mentions it as a phenomenon in his time. He tells us that a person under divine possession received utterances and visions that the receiver did not understand.

These utterances were sometimes accompanied by physical healing of people present. Virgil (70-19 BC) tells us that the Sibylline priestess, when in prayer, united her spirit with the god Apollo and spoke in strange tongues.ii " ~~~ end of quote from link

So how can sinners & the church know the difference between what is of the truth in Christianity and what is of the devil if these phenomenon had happened before Christianity had come and yet they want to believe these phenomenon to be of God in Christianity?

You can know the difference by how you approach God by; is it by coming to & believing in the Son or is it by coming to a place, believing in the movement of the spirit to bring about those phenomenon, thinking that is the Holy Spirit?

So, I can judge and say those videos are denying Christ.
They deny the Life of Christ in His people and therefore are antichrist.
And you support the attack on Christ through the posting of those videos and pass them off as truth when they are not.
I can testify to that and to my experiences under the anointing of the Spirit of God.

Proverbs 25:26 A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring. 27 It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory. 28 He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.

1 John 4:1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: **

** Same as saying in according to our faith where Jesus Christ is presently at as being in us per 2 Corinthians 13:5 as Paul said it too. When believers do not confess Jesus Christ as in us but outside of us or felt as coming over us again, that is the spirit of the antichrist.

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Verses 5-6 testify to testing the tongues they bring too because of that supernatural pagan tongue that was in the world before Pentecost came with the real God's gift of tongues for God TO speak unto the people in their native tongue. 1 Corinthians 14:20-21

 

[Wordsmith]

Some even experience healing as @Wordsmith but there is this:

The History of Tongues: Pagan Practices

"Ecstatic language was a common form of worship in pagan temples.i It was well established in Ancient Byblos (1100 BC). Plato (429-347 BC) mentions it as a phenomenon in his time. He tells us that a person under divine possession received utterances and visions that the receiver did not understand.

These utterances were sometimes accompanied by physical healing of people present. Virgil (70-19 BC) tells us that the Sibylline priestess, when in prayer, united her spirit with the god Apollo and spoke in strange tongues.ii " ~~~ end of quote from link

You would be better served by believing the word of God on these matters rather than fearing the works of the devil might sneak in

So how can sinners & the church know the difference between what is of the truth in Christianity and what is of the devil if these phenomenon had happened before Christianity had come and yet they want to believe these phenomenon to be of God in Christianity?

Luke 11:9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent?

12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?

13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

You can know the difference by how you approach God by; is it by coming to & believing in the Son or is it by coming to a place, believing in the movement of the spirit to bring about those phenomenon, thinking that is the Holy Spirit?

Why are you hung up on this? People who truly need healing just need healing they don't need for God to prove who He is.


Question for you. Did you actually watch the video I post on several threads? If not why not? If you did can you show from scripture that satan has ever created new eyes or anything remotely close to that?

You are so fixated on what you are afraid the devil can do you can not allow yourself to see the goodness of God and His mercy.

 

[ChristB4us]

You would be better served by believing the word of God on these matters rather than fearing the works of the devil might sneak in

Luke 11:9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent?
12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?
13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

I apply that above to mean that all those who knock at the door of Jesus Christ seeking salvation, the Father will give the Holy Spirit, but He will give it to us one time so that He will not appear evil as if He did not give us the Holy Spirit the first time as promised.

Why are you hung up on this? People who truly need healing just need healing they don't need for God to prove who He is.

Question for you. Did you actually watch the video I post on several threads? If not why not? If you did can you show from scripture that satan has ever created new eyes or anything remotely close to that?

You are so fixated on what you are afraid the devil can do you can not allow yourself to see the goodness of God and His mercy.

Thanks to the Father for drawing me unto the Son John 6:44 to reveal His Son to me Matthew 11:25-27 and thereby enabling me to believe at the hearing of the gospel for how I was born again of the Spirit; how am I lacking any good thing when I am complete in Him in that regard?

Colossians 2:5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ. 6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

@TB2 @jeremiah1five @Carbon @Agra Man

 

[jeremiah1five]

Some even experience healing as @Wordsmith but there is this:

The History of Tongues: Pagan Practices

"Ecstatic language was a common form of worship in pagan temples.i It was well established in Ancient Byblos (1100 BC). Plato (429-347 BC) mentions it as a phenomenon in his time. He tells us that a person under divine possession received utterances and visions that the receiver did not understand.

These utterances were sometimes accompanied by physical healing of people present. Virgil (70-19 BC) tells us that the Sibylline priestess, when in prayer, united her spirit with the god Apollo and spoke in strange tongues.ii " ~~~ end of quote from link

So how can sinners & the church know the difference between what is of the truth in Christianity and what is of the devil if these phenomenon had happened before Christianity had come and yet they want to believe these phenomenon to be of God in Christianity?

You can know the difference by how you approach God by; is it by coming to & believing in the Son or is it by coming to a place, believing in the movement of the spirit to bring about those phenomenon, thinking that is the Holy Spirit?

Proverbs 25:26 A righteous man falling down before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring. 27 It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory. 28 He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.

1 John 4:1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: **

** Same as saying in according to our faith where Jesus Christ is presently at as being in us per 2 Corinthians 13:5 as Paul said it too. When believers do not confess Jesus Christ as in us but outside of us or felt as coming over us again, that is the spirit of the antichrist.

3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Verses 5-6 testify to testing the tongues they bring too because of that supernatural pagan tongue that was in the world before Pentecost came with the real God's gift of tongues for God TO speak unto the people in their native tongue. 1 Corinthians 14:20-21

Then I suppose the eleven disciples in Acts 2 were actually speaking 'pagan tongues.'

4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. Acts 2:4.

 

[Wordsmith]

Thanks to the Father for drawing me unto the Son John 6:44 to reveal His Son to me Matthew 11:25-27 and thereby enabling me to believe at the hearing of the gospel for how I was born again of the Spirit; how am I lacking any good thing when I am complete in Him in that regard?

I also thank God for your salvation and would never question it. That said you have lumped me in with voo doo, evil spirits and the falling away of the last days. So if I were you I would rethink how you word some of you responses.

You still avoid even answering my question, did you even watch the video? That only requires a yes or no not a bombardment of scriptural rebukes.

 

[ChristB4us]

Then I suppose the eleven disciples in Acts 2 were actually speaking 'pagan tongues.'

it certainly was not gibberish nonsense, but a foreign language of men for God to speak through Hsi disciples unto the people.

Acts 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. 5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.

4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. Acts 2:4.

May God help you keep it in context like I did above and you will not have a problem mixing gibberish nonsense of that pagan supernatural tongue as found in the occult and Roman Idolatry with the real God's gift of tongues.

 

[jeremiah1five]

it certainly was not gibberish nonsense, but a foreign language of men for God to speak through Hsi disciples unto the people.

Acts 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. 5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.

May God help you keep it in context like I did above and you will not have a problem mixing gibberish nonsense of that pagan supernatural tongue as found in the occult and Roman Idolatry with the real God's gift of tongues.

My tongue was not "gibberish nonsense.'
You weren't there each time I spoke in tongues so you really cannot judge.
You want to continue to pass off the truth as false that's on you.
We'll all find out at the Last Day.
In the meantime, my tongues were used of God and He was glorified each time.
But as I said, you weren't there, and it seems witness to these things has no effect on you.
Truth has no effect on you.
And that is disturbing for a professed Christian.

 

[jeremiah1five]

I also thank God for your salvation and would never question it. That said you have lumped me in with voo doo, evil spirits and the falling away of the last days. So if I were you I would rethink how you word some of you responses.

You still avoid even answering my question, did you even watch the video? That only requires a yes or no not a bombardment of scriptural rebukes.

Not me.
I'd question that salvation of his.
No lie is of the truth.

 

[ChristB4us]

I also thank God for your salvation and would never question it.

I do not doubt your salvation either but Jesus warned us about false prophets and false spirits for why many will not be ready as found abiding in His as His disciples in the last day.

Those professing believers found in iniquity that get left behind are still saved for why there are vessels unto dishonor in His House.

 

[ChristB4us]

My tongue was not "gibberish nonsense.'
You weren't there each time I spoke in tongues so you really cannot judge.
You want to continue to pass off the truth as false that's on you.
We'll all find out at the Last Day.
In the meantime, my tongues were used of God and He was glorified each time.
But as I said, you weren't there, and it seems witness to these things has no effect on you.
Truth has no effect on you.
And that is disturbing for a professed Christian.

I am addressing tongues for private use for why there is no interpretation coming because it is gibberish nonsense and not a foreign language of men.

So when ever you or anyone cite tongues for private use, you are just confirming that it is gibberish nonsense for why there is no interpretation.

I do not doubt your salvation but we were warned not to believe every spirit but test them and the tongues they bring as found in the world.

1 John 4:1-6

 

[TB2]

it certainly was not gibberish nonsense, but a foreign language of men for God to speak through Hsi disciples unto the people

Not always. Nor do we ever see the gospel being preached via tongues. In Acts 2 the people hear them praising God in their own language for His mighty works, but they didn't understand what it meant. Peter had to follow up by proclaiming the gospel to them.

Tongues can also be used to speak to God

1 Corinthians 14.2
2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit

Interpretation is only required in a corporate setting. Paul prayed both with his mind with understanding, and in the Spirit

 

[ChristB4us]

Not always. Nor do we ever see the gospel being preached via tongues. In Acts 2 the people hear them praising God in their own language for His mighty works, but they didn't understand what it meant. Peter had to follow up by proclaiming the gospel to them.

Tongues can also be used to speak to God

1 Corinthians 14.2
2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit

Interpretation is only required in a corporate setting. Paul prayed both with his mind with understanding, and in the Spirit

Then you can never separate that pagan supernatural tongue which is in the world form the real God's gift of tongues.

1 Corinthians 12:4-11 testifies that the gifts are to profit the body of Christ, the assembly.

1 Corinthians 12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. 6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. 7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

Paul specified that these gifts are not sought by seeking a baptism with the Holy Ghost when they are already born again of the Spirit and thus a member of the body of Christ. Verse 13 below is the testimony we are all suppose to share and that includes no more filling of the Spirit for that would mean one member had another drink of the One Spirit to be filled again..

12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 14 For the body is not one member, but many.

AND Paul says these gifts were never meant for any member of the body for private use.

18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. 19 And if they were all one member, where were the body? 20 But now are they many members, yet but one body. 21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.

So what does that mean for your verses in 1 Corinthians 14:2 & 4 ? You are reading tongues for private use into the verses and therefore not rightly dividing the word of truth.