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Six Problems Inherent in Premillennial Dispensationalism: The Radical Departure from Orthodoxy

Are there any differences between what DPism teaches regarding those six bullet points and what historic Christianity teaches?
No fair, I asked you first. ;)

You implied that "DPism" was invented from whole cloth contrary to "historic Christianity" and I pointed out that the BIBLE calls out the same EARTH SHATTERING shifts in the relationship between GOD, MAN and CREATION as "DPism" ... so I asked if your "historic Christianity" did or did not also note those Scriptural watersheds.

You mostly seem to have a bee in your bonnet over semantics of "dispensations" vs "covenants" and hate Darby and whatever he wrote in the 1800's BECAUSE he wrote it in the 1800's. I don't really know how to respond to that sort of irrational angst.

So, the best I can offer to your OP claim that Darby disagrees with the ECFs is "so what"?
I leave you to find someone that can provide the discussion you are looking for as I am clearly not that person.
 
Unfortunately there aren't that many differences.
That is incorrect.

This thread will cover a number of differences if you do your part (as described in Post 5).
Which is absolutely true. Presupposition does not reign where exegesis fails.
Irrelevant. The point was simply to establish a set of differences between Historic Premillennialism (the oldest formal eschatological position in the history of the Church) and Dispensational Premillennialism. You listed four.
However the age of grace was not predicted......
We're not doing that. This is not an occasion for you to hijack this thread. You don't get to teach Dispensational Premillennialism and ignore the specified topic of the op. No teaching of Dispensational Premillennialism is to be posted apart from what Christianity has historically taught because it is the differences in that context that are to be discussed.
Why? That isn't the OP now is it? I'm getting a little tired of playing games where you make demands that you do not follow.
It is the op. No one - not you, me, Ricky, Lucy, Bert, nor Ernie, can discuss anything about Dispensational Premillennialism apart from what has been taught in historic, orthodox Christianity. I am asking for a list the differences of various prior viewpoints within historical Christianity to establish context, a means of measuring what DPism teaches. Along the way we build consensus. From that consensus we build an understanding of the differences between DPism and its historical alternative. Even though there are more than four differences between Historic Premillennialism and Dispensational Premillennialism, for will do for now. The existence four distinctions can be relied upon because you were the one who did the investigation. Their correctness is immaterial because this op is about the differences, not which difference is correct (although we will get to that in the due course of time). The historical difference between Historical Premillennialism and Dispensational Premillennialism have been established. I am also establishing a pattern of collaboration. I could post all the lists but that would be lest collaborative and the noatural inclination is to find fault. That does not happen when you provide the correct answers ;). You become instrumental in establishing the agreed upon knowledge that was requested 🥰. Can't have you thinking I hate you ;). What Amil & Postmil share in common with Historical Premillennialism broadens the scope of what was taught apart from Dispensational Premillennialism.

So the question asked stands: Can at least three positions held by Historic Premillennialism, Amillennialism, and Postmillennialism but not held in Dispensational Premillennialism be listed? Remember: Simple bullet points without added unnecessary commentary, please. For the record: Anytime an answer to a question asked is not known just say, "No, I don't know that one." I assume that won't happen because I assume you already possess the information needed to answer all the questions I'll ask.* If the answer's not known, I will gladly post an answer and if there's any doubt regarding the veracity of the answer, I'll then provide evidence to prove the case.


Can you list at least three positions held by Historic Premillennialism, Amillennialism, and Postmillennialism but not held in Dispensational Premillennialism does not?











* I will confess I was surprised Google was mentioned. It implies there isn't sufficient knowledge of the two premillennialisms. It begs the question, "What have you been using in the past to argue on behalf of DPism if that knowledge didn't already exist?" and "Why argue against this op if the history isn't already known?" I mistakenly assumed you were sufficiently informed with the historical teachings of Christianity that Google would be unnecessary. I assume anyone arguing with this op knows what they're talking about and that means at least some degree of functional knowledge.
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No fair, I asked you first. ;)

You implied that "DPism" was invented from whole cloth contrary to "historic Christianity" and I pointed out that the BIBLE calls out the same EARTH SHATTERING shifts in the relationship between GOD, MAN and CREATION as "DPism" ... so I asked if your "historic Christianity" did or did not also note those Scriptural watersheds.
Yes, that is what you did. The problem is you are wrong.

How does DPism treat those six events? Do you know? Do you know how DPism treats those six events? Do you know how the rest of Christianity treats them? There are huge differences. For example, In Dispensational Premillennialism, those events are used as markers of dispensations and the dispensations are held to be discontinuous, or evidence of the Bible's discontinuity. The Rest of Christendom has always considered scripture to have continuity.

Are you familiar with these terms? (a simple, yes, or no, will do).
You mostly seem to have a bee...
Please keep your posts' contents specific to the op and not the posters. There are no bees in anyone's bonnets.
So, the best I can offer to your OP claim that Darby disagrees with the ECFs is "so what"?
That would be evidence of Dispensational Premillennialism's departure from what has historically been taught in Christianity.
I leave you to find someone that can provide the discussion you are looking for as I am clearly not that person.
Bye.
 
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