Scriptures that show that Christs death saved a person while in unbelief!

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So why the question ?

Romans 5: 13 "To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law. 14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come."

 

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Romans 5: 13 "To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law. 14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come."

Okay and ?

 

[makesends]

Okay and ?

You said the law was in effect way before Moses. Yet you also quoted it saying,
"13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression"

Verse 13 is rather obviously referring to "The Law" (of Moses), yet you say that The Law WAS in effect way before Moses. I agree with you that there was law, (i.e. moral commandment and conscience and a sense of right and wrong, but that is not 'the law'.

 

[brightfame52]

You said the law was in effect way before Moses

yeah

. Yet you also quoted it saying,
"13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression"

ok and

Verse 13 is rather obviously referring to "The Law" (of Moses), yet you say that The Law WAS in effect way before Moses. I agree with you that there was law, (i.e. moral commandment and conscience and a sense of right and wrong, but that is not 'the law'.

Yeah there was law. It was the Law at adams creation. I believe it was the same moral law of the ten commandments, couched in that law. The sabbath day was began Gen 2:1-4


Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

3 ;And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,

When Moses was given the Moral code reference is made back to creation for the sanctified seventh day

Ex 20 8-11

8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.


Do you believe Cain broke 6th commandment?

13 Thou shalt not kill.

Did eve sin against the 10th commandmet and covet ?

The gentiles had the law written in their conscience Rom 2 15

15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another)

Law here has the definite article " the law" so I believe its Gods moral law of the 10 commandments.