No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

[Carbon]

I believe regeneration begins all of it and is the cause of all of it. Regeneration effects conversion

Of course.

 

[makesends]

brightfame52 said:
That drawing and regeneration are one and the same.

Synonymous

The word, 'drawing', invokes the idea of an influencing of another to make a decision. "You can draw a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

'Regeneration' invokes nothing of the kind. Whether or not decisions are made as a result of regeneration, that is not what the word means.

 

[Carbon]

brightfame52 said:
That drawing and regeneration are one and the same.

The word, 'drawing', invokes the idea of an influencing of another to make a decision. "You can draw a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

'Regeneration' invokes nothing of the kind. Whether or not decisions are made as a result of regeneration, that is not what the word means.

But in the case of regeneration, he will drink. At the appointed time.

 

[brightfame52]

brightfame52 said:
That drawing and regeneration are one and the same.

The word, 'drawing', invokes the idea of an influencing of another to make a decision. "You can draw a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

'Regeneration' invokes nothing of the kind. Whether or not decisions are made as a result of regeneration, that is not what the word means.

The Drawing is regeneration, it effects conversion, Faith and repentance, and the regenerated person has a desire to drink

 

[makesends]

But in the case of regeneration, he will drink. At the appointed time.

The Drawing is regeneration, it effects conversion, Faith and repentance, and the regenerated person has a desire to drink

No doubt the regenerated wants to drink, and he will drink. Nevertheless, his drinking is not what causes his salvation. It is entirely by grace that he is saved, and not by something he does.

 

[Carbon]

No doubt the regenerated wants to drink, and he will drink. Nevertheless, his drinking is not what causes his salvation. It is entirely by grace that he is saved, and not by something he does.

Of course. I never said anything different.