Mystery of the most holy trinity!

[Runningman]

How you be a father without offspring having the same nature or essence?

Is Jesus the savior?

One Lord - amen!
One God the Father - no amen?

Ephesians 4
6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

 

[donadams]

What are the five solas?

Faith alone:
Scripture alone:
Grace alone:
Christ alone:
Glory to God alone:

And alone means absolutely alone no other can exist!

Thanks

 

[donadams]

One Lord - amen!
One God the Father - no amen?

Ephesians 4
6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

Jesus is savior Lk 2:10
God is our savior Lk 1:47
Jesus is God divine one essence three persons

 

[Runningman]

Jesus is savior Lk 2:10
God is our savior Lk 1:47
Jesus is God divine one essence three persons

Okay. So to be clear you don’t agree the Father is the only God?

 

[Fred]

Praying indicates supplication to God in worship.

Paul knew this and this is why he prayed to the Lord Jesus.

2 Corinthians 12:8
Concerning this I implored the Lord three times that it might leave me.

 

[grace2]

Glory to God alone:

I believe in God alone, not triune god alone.

the rest is Calvine's teaching and I don't prescribe it.

I don't prescribe to any man-made doctrines.

 

[Runningman]

Paul knew this and this is why he prayed to the Lord Jesus.

2 Corinthians 12:8
Concerning this I implored the Lord three times that it might leave me.

The word implored is not equal to the word prayer.

 

[Fred]

The word implored is not equal to the word prayer.

See Matthew 26:53.

 

[Runningman]

See Matthew 26:53.

Dangerous precedent. Calling on someone or imploring them isn’t a prayer. We can pray to God, but we can call on or implore anyone without praying to them. I’m calling on you to see the difference.

 

[Fred]

Dangerous precedent. Calling on someone or imploring them isn’t a prayer. We can pray to God,

Thus, imploring the Lord is a prayer, but not when you did so to me.

Thanks for making this easy for me.

 

[Fred]

Praying indicates supplication to God in worship.

Which proves Jesus is God because the Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer by Stephen in Acts 7:59-60.

 

[Runningman]

Thus, imploring the Lord is a prayer, but not when you did so to me.

Thanks for making this easy for me.

You only pray to the person you worship, which should be the Father as Jesus went around teaching everyone. No one in the Bible ever wrote they prayed to Jesus. Deal with it. You don’t have any proof he’s God, but imagination.

 

[Runningman]

Which proves Jesus is God because the Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer by Stephen in Acts 7:59-60.

It proves nothing of the sort. Doesn’t say he prayed to Jesus. Jesus clearly isn’t God so it wouldn’t make sense to pray directly to him.

Acts 7:55 says Jesus was standing at the right hand of God. Obviously that means he isn’t God. Try again.

 

[Fred]

No one in the Bible ever wrote they prayed to Jesus.

See 2 Corinthians 12:8.

 

[Fred]

It proves nothing of the sort. Doesn’t say he prayed to Jesus.

Calling upon the Lord is praying to Jesus (Acts 7:59-60).

Acts 7:55 says Jesus was standing at the right hand of God. Obviously that means he isn’t God. Try again.

Obviously it does mean Jesus is God since Stephen later prayed to Jesus.

Try again.

 

[donadams]

Okay. So to be clear you don’t agree the Father is the only God?

Don’t you want to be a Christian?

The trinity and the divinity of Christ are Christian doctrines, nobody who rejects them can be a Christian!

The whole new covenant religion depends on the divinity of Christ!
Without the incarnation of the son of God it is a “House of cards” that collapses upon itself!

Many things Jesus did and said if done by a man would be great sin and blasphemy, and he could not be the spotless lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! Jn 1:29

It’s no wonder the Jews took up stones to kill him, He claimed to be and act as God and they took him for only a man.

 

[donadams]

I believe in God alone, not triune god alone.

the rest is Calvine's teaching and I don't prescribe it.

I don't prescribe to any man-made doctrines.

Do you believe the apostles creed?

 

[donadams]

Another one!

Acts 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;

Guess who?

Ya Jesus Christ!

Jn 20:21-23

21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.

22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

Jesus Christ true God and true man the same yesterday today and forever! Heb 13:8

 

[grace2]

Do you believe the apostles creed?

what is it?

 

[grace2]

Don’t you want to be a Christian?

Don't you?