Mariolatry?

[1Thess521]

A woman has a son;

The son is president of the us.

Is woman his mother? Yes

Is she the mother of the president?
Yes

Now the problem is cause!

We associate mother with cause.

Is she the mother of the president? Yes

Is she the primary cause of Him being president? No

Is Mary the mother of our salvation yes
Is she the primary cause of our salvation? No

Understand?

YOU claimed our salvation is IN Mary

 

[1Thess521]

And only the Lord’s prayer?

Is to the Divine

 

[CrowCross]

never seen it

Praise honor veneration and devotion of His saints redound to the Glory of God who is the source of all grace and good! Lk 1:49 as Christ source of all grace! Jn 1:16-17

Praise, honor, veneration, and devotion are not worship, worship requires intent!

LOL...call it what you want.

 

[CrowCross]

A woman has a son;

The son is president of the us.

Is woman his mother? Yes

Is she the mother of the president?
Yes

Now the problem is cause!

We associate mother with cause.

Is she the mother of the president? Yes

Is she the primary cause of Him being president? No

Is Mary the mother of our salvation yes
Is she the primary cause of our salvation? No

Understand?

Then what good is a Hail Mary.....unless you play football?

 

[donadams]

YOU claimed our salvation is IN Mary

Jesus Our salvation (Lk 2:30 ) was in Mary for nine months.

But i was discussing with carbon another statement

Mary is the mother of our salvation!

Do you understand the simple logic?

A woman has a son;

The son is president of the us.

Is woman his mother? Yes

Is she the mother of the president?
Yes

Now the problem is cause!

We associate mother with cause.

Is she the mother of the president? Yes

Is she the primary cause of Him being president? No

Is Mary the mother of our salvation yes
Is she the primary cause of our salvation? No

 

[CrowCross]

Jesus Our salvation (Lk 2:30 ) was in Mary for nine months.

But i was discussing with carbon another statement

Mary is the mother of our salvation!

Do you understand the simple logic?

A woman has a son;

The son is president of the us.

Is woman his mother? Yes

Is she the mother of the president?
Yes

Now the problem is cause!

We associate mother with cause.

Is she the mother of the president? Yes

Is she the primary cause of Him being president? No

Is Mary the mother of our salvation yes
Is she the primary cause of our salvation? No

You could also say James was the brother of salvation.

 

[Eleanor]

Jesus is our salvation! Lk 2:30

So yes mother of our salvation

That is anything but Biblical reasoning.

The name Jesus means salvation matt 1:21

Mother his person so yes mother of our salvation

And mother of our salvation cos she found Lk 1:30 and consented to our salvation Lk 1:38

Not Biblical reasoning. . .but then that is not anything new.

 

[Eleanor]

You could also say James was the brother of salvation.

And his son the nephew of salvation. . .

And there you have the results of non-Biblical reasoning.

It's rather "startling" the liberties being taken with Scripture.

I could come up with quite an "interesting" religion using those methods.

Again, such a hermeneutic is both naive and Bibilically outrageous.

 

[donadams]

Is to the Divine

Meaning?

 

[donadams]

Then what good is a Hail Mary.....unless you play football?

Biblical prayer

 

[1Thess521]

Jesus Our salvation (Lk 2:30 ) was in Mary for nine months.

Do you understand verb tenses?
When you stated "our salvation IS in Mary"
do you mean our salvation WAS in Mary?

 

[makesends]

Yes, I agree, yet there are many who worship Mary.

Because they owe her nothing, but consider it advisable to cover all the bases. She is easier to talk to. Like the rest of the saints who they think have God's ear and some bit of authority over certain areas of luck, (the biggest saint is Saint Jesus, but that's pushing it because he seems to be a little choleric and demanding at times), Mary is full of motherly kindness and gentleness —the very epitome of grace.

 

[makesends]

Biblical prayer

Biblic-ish, you mean? I don't see that prayer anywhere in the Bible. Not even close.

 

[1Thess521]

Meaning?

The Lord' Prayer is TO a divine being
BECAUSE that is what the word means.

Pray (4336) (proseuchomai from pros = toward, facing, before [emphasizing the direct approach of the one who prays in seeking God’s face] + euchomai = originally to speak out, utter aloud, express a wish, then to pray or to vow. Greek technical term for invoking a deity) in the NT is always used of prayer addressed to God (to Him as the object of faith and the One who will answer one’s prayer) and means to speak consciously (with or without vocalization) to Him, with a definite aim.

Prove me wrong!!

 

[CrowCross]

Biblical prayer

Praying to Mary is technically necromancy.