Just WHO is God?

[CrowCross]

You're still posting so clearly not banned.

I think they have been super nice to you.

Somebody should show @Questions how the "Reply" button works.

 

[Questions]

I'm checking back with an e-mail to your replies.
I received a message from mods that arguing against the Trinity will not be tolerated and threaten to ban me.
So, HOW can I since it is utterly ridiculous and goes against everything Jesus has taught?

 

[Hazelelponi]

I'm checking back with an e-mail to your replies.
I received a message from mods that arguing against the Trinity will not be tolerated and threaten to ban me.
So, HOW can I since it is utterly ridiculous and goes against everything Jesus has taught?

Do you submit to the teaching?

We could have a Scriptural discussion, the bird with the sword is good to go on teaching.

He even had a new word. All you have to do is submit to a reasoned discussion from Scripture.

 

[CrowCross]

I'm checking back with an e-mail to your replies.
I received a message from mods that arguing against the Trinity will not be tolerated and threaten to ban me.
So, HOW can I since it is utterly ridiculous and goes against everything Jesus has taught?

You do know all you have is presented claims...that's all. No biblical support. NONE.

When asked a question all you do is reply with . Why should someone who presents an anti-christ "gospel" like you do be tolerated?

Your problem is you can't use your words and explain your position. All you do is waste bandwidth.

 

[CrowCross]

Do you submit to the teaching?

We could have a Scriptural discussion, the bird with the sword is good to go on teaching.

He even had a new word. All you have to do is submit to a reasoned discussion from Scripture.

"All you have to do is submit to a reasoned discussion from Scripture."

At @Questions is uncapable of doing that.

 

[Hazelelponi]

At @Questions is uncapable of doing that.

I would agree with the assessment of course.

 

[Questions]

Do you submit to the teaching?

We could have a Scriptural discussion, the bird with the sword is good to go on teaching.

He even had a new word. All you have to do is submit to a reasoned discussion from Scripture.

To a discussion, not the Dogma.

 

[Hazelelponi]

To a discussion, not the Dogma.

You submit to the Scriptural discussion then?

That's good. You aren't being asked to believe, just to submit to a reasoned discussion of Scripture. Fighting is for children.

 

[Hazelelponi]

@Questions - I'm just reposting the link to post 4 and 5 so that we can start where we left off.

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Thread 'The only true God (John 17:3) - The only Master (Jude 4)'

Dec 7, 2023

John 17:3
This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.


Whenever the "true God" is used in the Bible it is always used in contradistinction with idols.

2 Chronicles 15:3, 8
(3) For many days Israel was without the true God and without a teaching priest and without law.
(8) Now when Asa heard these words and the prophecy which Azariah the son of Oded the prophet spoke, he took courage and removed the abominable idols from all the land of Judah and Benjamin and from the cities which he had captured in the hill...

• Fred

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Hello.

Do you understand the kenosis?

Both excellent posts - take whatever time you need to provide a reasoned response from Scripture, and we will go from there.

 

[Questions]

You submit to the Scriptural discussion then?

That's good. You aren't being asked to believe, just to submit to a reasoned discussion of Scripture. Fighting is for children.

I'm always open to a discussion of the Bible- not an argument!
Will a person only believe Church Dogma, or the Bible?

 

[Hazelelponi]

I'm always open to a discussion of the Bible- not an argument!
Will a person only believe Church Dogma, or the Bible?

Waiting for your response to posts 4 and 5 in this thread. We can go from there after you provide a response.

 

[Questions]

Waiting for your response to posts 4 and 5 in this thread. We can go from there after you provide a response.

Do you understand the kenosis?

If it isn't in the Bible, I could care less...

 

[Questions]

I just now realize you are judging me by putting it in THIS section.
But, I am (not claiming to be God) used to it.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Do you understand the kenosis?

If it isn't in the Bible, I could care less...

So you can't have a discussion if we use the English language to express ideas?

We can't discuss if we can't use words. You agreed to submit to a discussion based on Scripture.

Discussion means we can use words to articulate our thoughts. If you haven't heard the word before you can say so without shame and a definition can be given.

I didn't know that word. It's not a tragedy, and doesn't mean I'm stupid, just not a word I know.

 

[Questions]

So you can't have a discussion if we use the English language to express ideas?

We can't discuss if we can't use words. You agreed to submit to a discussion based on Scripture.

Discussion means we can use words to articulate our thoughts. If you haven't heard the word before you can say so without shame and a definition can be given.

I didn't know that word. It's not a tragedy, and doesn't mean I'm stupid, just not a word I know.

I'm all ears.

 

[Questions]

In theology, kenosis is the "self-emptying" of Jesus. The word ἐκένωσεν is used in the Epistle to the Philippians: "[Jesus] made himself nothing", or "[he] emptied himself", using the verb form κενόω, meaning "to empty". The exact meaning varies among theologians. The less controversial meaning is that Jesus emptied his own desires, becoming entirely receptive to God's divine will, obedient to the point of death—even death on a cross.

A fancy way to state the obvious: unless you are saying God did this!

 

[Hazelelponi]

In theology, kenosis is the "self-emptying" of Jesus. The word ἐκένωσεν is used in the Epistle to the Philippians: "[Jesus] made himself nothing", or "[he] emptied himself", using the verb form κενόω, meaning "to empty". The exact meaning varies among theologians. The less controversial meaning is that Jesus emptied his own desires, becoming entirely receptive to God's divine will, obedient to the point of death—even death on a cross.

A fancy way to state the obvious: unless you are saying God did this!

Is this your response to @CrowCross ?

It's a start, I will await his response.

 

[Arial]

To a discussion, not the Dogma.

Dogma: That which is held as an opinion; a tenet; a doctrine.

You have dogma of your own that you are spouting all over the place. So that was a very lame thing to say.

 

[Arial]

No- to the word definition.
But "Arial" looks dead-set on ending this!

Unless you start actually having a discussion----yes. And when you stop breaking the rules I will stop editing and deleting the rules violations out of your posts.

 

[Questions]

Dogma: That which is held as an opinion; a tenet; a doctrine.

You have dogma of your own that you are spouting all over the place. So that was a very lame thing to say.

It's a common description.
Buuuut, mine is based on JESUS' teaching, yours in Church Dogma.