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[DialecticSkeptic]

Some fellow over at ChristianForums.com privately sent me an invitation to join this site, and it seemed related to me being Reformed. I had a brief look around and, yeah, this definitely seems like a place I could enjoy. So, allow me to remove my jacket, take off my hat, and make my way around the room, shaking hands.

I am a 44-year-old family man, happily married for 10 years with two baptized children. I was raised an atheist, being converted to Christianity late in life (i.e., early 30s). I began my faith journey as a dispensationalist Baptist (and young-earth creationist), but was later convinced of the doctrines of grace and started leaning toward a Reformed Baptist view of things. Before long, however, I discovered R. C. Sproul and my spiritual development really took off. I became convinced of covenant theology and eventually embraced a fully Reformed faith. I am a communicant member in good standing in a local Reformed church and subscribe to the Three Forms of Unity.

I am also an old-earth creationist who accepts the science of evolution—that is, an evolutionary creationist—while maintaining a firm conviction in a historical Adam and Eve who lived 6,000 years ago. My views on origins have been influenced by the likes of John H. Walton, Gregory K. Beale, Meredith G. Kline, J. Richard Middleton, Denis R. Alexander, John R. W. Stott, Carol Hill, S. Joshua Swamidass, Joshua M. Moritz—and so many others. My views on origins are singularly unique, which makes me incredibly difficult to pigeon-hole. So, don't make assumptions about what I believe; it's probably unlike most anything else you have encountered.

 

[Sereni-tea]

Some fellow over at ChristianForums.com privately sent me an invitation to join this site, and it seemed related to me being Reformed. I had a brief look around and, yeah, this definitely seems like a place I could enjoy. So, allow me to remove my jacket, take off my hat, and make my way around the room, shaking hands.

I am a 44-year-old family man, happily married for 10 years with two baptized children. I was raised an atheist, being converted to Christianity late in life (i.e., early 30s). I began my faith journey as a dispensationalist Baptist (and young-earth creationist), but was later convinced of the doctrines of grace and started leaning toward a Reformed Baptist view of things. Before long, however, I discovered R. C. Sproul and my spiritual development really took off. I became convinced of covenant theology and eventually embraced a fully Reformed faith. I am a communicant member in good standing in a local Reformed church and subscribe to the Three Forms of Unity.

I am also an old-earth creationist who accepts the science of evolution—that is, an evolutionary creationist—while maintaining a firm conviction in a historical Adam and Eve who lived 6,000 years ago. My views on origins have been influenced by the likes of John H. Walton, Gregory K. Beale, Meredith G. Kline, J. Richard Middleton, Denis R. Alexander, John R. W. Stott, Carol Hill, S. Joshua Swamidass, Joshua M. Moritz—and so many others. My views on origins are singularly unique, which makes me incredibly difficult to pigeon-hole. So, don't make assumptions about what I believe; it's probably unlike most anything else you have encountered.

Hello and welcome to the forum.
Would love to hear more about your views on origins and covenant theology. I too have been influenced by some that you mentioned.

 

[DialecticSkeptic]

Would love to hear more about your views on origins and covenant theology. I too have been influenced by some that you mentioned.

I am always willing to talk about that, as it has been my favorite subject for the last five years or so.

 

[QVQ]

Hello and welcome
I have enjoyed your posts on other forums. Glad to see you here.

 

[Carbon]

Some fellow over at ChristianForums.com privately sent me an invitation to join this site, and it seemed related to me being Reformed. I had a brief look around and, yeah, this definitely seems like a place I could enjoy. So, allow me to remove my jacket, take off my hat, and make my way around the room, shaking hands.

I am a 44-year-old family man, happily married for 10 years with two baptized children. I was raised an atheist, being converted to Christianity late in life (i.e., early 30s). I began my faith journey as a dispensationalist Baptist (and young-earth creationist), but was later convinced of the doctrines of grace and started leaning toward a Reformed Baptist view of things. Before long, however, I discovered R. C. Sproul and my spiritual development really took off. I became convinced of covenant theology and eventually embraced a fully Reformed faith. I am a communicant member in good standing in a local Reformed church and subscribe to the Three Forms of Unity.

I am also an old-earth creationist who accepts the science of evolution—that is, an evolutionary creationist—while maintaining a firm conviction in a historical Adam and Eve who lived 6,000 years ago. My views on origins have been influenced by the likes of John H. Walton, Gregory K. Beale, Meredith G. Kline, J. Richard Middleton, Denis R. Alexander, John R. W. Stott, Carol Hill, S. Joshua Swamidass, Joshua M. Moritz—and so many others. My views on origins are singularly unique, which makes me incredibly difficult to pigeon-hole. So, don't make assumptions about what I believe; it's probably unlike most anything else you have encountered.

Welcome. Nice to have you here.

An old Earther huh? Interesting. I'm almost convinced.

Blessings.

 

[DialecticSkeptic]

An old-earther, huh? Interesting. I'm almost convinced.

Don't hang around me too much, then, because I'll just end up making it easier for you to go all the way.

 

[Marilyn C]

Some fellow over at ChristianForums.com privately sent me an invitation to join this site, and it seemed related to me being Reformed. I had a brief look around and, yeah, this definitely seems like a place I could enjoy. So, allow me to remove my jacket, take off my hat, and make my way around the room, shaking hands.

I am a 44-year-old family man, happily married for 10 years with two baptized children. I was raised an atheist, being converted to Christianity late in life (i.e., early 30s). I began my faith journey as a dispensationalist Baptist (and young-earth creationist), but was later convinced of the doctrines of grace and started leaning toward a Reformed Baptist view of things. Before long, however, I discovered R. C. Sproul and my spiritual development really took off. I became convinced of covenant theology and eventually embraced a fully Reformed faith. I am a communicant member in good standing in a local Reformed church and subscribe to the Three Forms of Unity.

I am also an old-earth creationist who accepts the science of evolution—that is, an evolutionary creationist—while maintaining a firm conviction in a historical Adam and Eve who lived 6,000 years ago. My views on origins have been influenced by the likes of John H. Walton, Gregory K. Beale, Meredith G. Kline, J. Richard Middleton, Denis R. Alexander, John R. W. Stott, Carol Hill, S. Joshua Swamidass, Joshua M. Moritz—and so many others. My views on origins are singularly unique, which makes me incredibly difficult to pigeon-hole. So, don't make assumptions about what I believe; it's probably unlike most anything else you have encountered.

Welcome, and I think most of us have a smorgasbord of beliefs, so should be interesting.

 

[Deleted member 6]

Welcome aboard, Bro!!

 

[Selah]

Apologetically we welcome thee, DialecticSkeptic.

 

[Sparrow]

Welcome to these forums, @DialecticSkeptic

 

[Grumix88]

Hello and welcome.

 

[DialecticSkeptic]

What I Believe​

The following confessional statement was lifted from The Gospel Coalition. It constitutes part of their Foundation Documents. I am in full agreement with pretty much every single part of it, and I am reproducing it here so that others may know what I mean when I describe myself as "an evangelical Christian broadly in the Reformed tradition." (I have changed the wording slightly, replacing "we" with "I" and so on. Also, the part with which I disagree is redacted with strike-through text below.)

1. The Triune God: I believe in one God, eternally existing in three equally divine persons—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit—who know, love, and glorify one another. This one true and living God is infinitely perfect both in his love and in his holiness. He is the Creator of all things, visible and invisible, and is therefore worthy to receive all glory and adoration. Immortal and eternal, he perfectly and exhaustively knows the end from the beginning, sustains and sovereignly rules over all things, and providentially brings about his eternal good purposes to redeem a people for himself and restore his fallen creation, to the praise of his glorious grace.

2. Revelation: God has graciously disclosed his existence and power in the created order, and has supremely revealed himself to fallen human beings in the person of his Son, the incarnate Word. Moreover, this God is a speaking God who by his Spirit has graciously disclosed himself in human words. I believe that God has inspired the words preserved in the scriptures, the 66 books of the Old and New Testaments, which are both a record and a means of his saving work in the world. These writings alone constitute the verbally inspired word of God, which is utterly authoritative and without error in the original writings, complete in its revelation of his will for salvation, sufficient for all that God requires us to believe and do, and final in its authority over every domain of knowledge to which it speaks. I confess that both our finitude and our sinfulness preclude the possibility of knowing God's truth exhaustively, but I affirm that, enlightened by the Spirit of God, we can know God's revealed truth truly. As God's instruction, the Bible is to be believed in all that it teaches; as God's command, obeyed in all that it requires; as God's pledge, trusted in all that it promises. As God's people hear, believe, and do the word, they are equipped as disciples of Christ and witnesses to the gospel.

3. Creation of Humanity: I believe that God created human beings, male and female, in his own image. Adam and Eve belonged to the created order that God himself declared to be very good, serving as God's agents to care for, manage, and govern creation, living in holy and devoted fellowship with their maker. Men and women, equally made in the image of God, enjoy equal access to God by faith in Christ Jesus and are both called to move beyond passive self-indulgence to significant private and public engagement in family, church, and civic life. Adam and Eve were made to complement each other in a one-flesh union that establishes the only normative pattern of sexual relations for men and women, such that marriage ultimately serves as a type of the union between Christ and his church. In God's wise purposes, men and women are not simply interchangeable, but rather they complement each other in mutually enriching ways. God ordains that they assume distinctive roles which reflect the loving relationship between Christ and the church, the husband exercising headship in a way that displays the caring, sacrificial love of Christ, and the wife submitting to her husband in a way that models the love of the church for her Lord. In the ministry of the church, both men and women are encouraged to serve Christ and to be developed to their full potential in the manifold ministries of the people of God. The distinctive leadership role within the church given to qualified men is grounded in creation, fall, and redemption and must not be sidelined by appeals to cultural developments.

4. The Fall: I believe that Adam, made in the image of God, distorted that image and forfeited his original blessedness—for himself and all his progeny—by falling into sin through Satan's temptation. As a result, all human beings are alienated from God, corrupted in every aspect of their being (e.g., physically, mentally, volitionally, emotionally, spiritually) and condemned finally and irrevocably to death—apart from God's own gracious intervention. The supreme need of all human beings is to be reconciled to the God under whose just and holy wrath we stand; the only hope of all human beings is the undeserved love of this same God, who alone can rescue us and restore us to himself.

5. The Plan of God: I believe that from all eternity God determined in grace to save a great multitude of guilty sinners from every tribe and language and people and nation, and to this end foreknew them and chose them. I believe that God justifies and sanctifies those who by grace have faith in Jesus, and that he will one day glorify them—all to the praise of his glorious grace. In love God commands and implores all people to repent and believe, having set his saving love on those he has chosen and having ordained Christ to be their Redeemer.

6. The Gospel: I believe that the gospel is the good news of Jesus Christ, God's very wisdom. Utter folly to the world, even though it is the power of God to those who are being saved, this good news is christological, centering on the cross and resurrection. The gospel is not proclaimed if Christ is not proclaimed, and the authentic Christ has not been proclaimed if his death and resurrection are not central. The message is "Christ died for our sins ... [and] was raised." This good news is biblical (i.e., his death and resurrection are according to the Scriptures), theological and salvific (i.e., Christ died for our sins in order to reconcile us to God), historical (i.e., if the saving events did not happen, then our faith is worthless, we are still in our sins, and we are to be pitied more than all others), apostolic (i.e., the message was entrusted to and transmitted by the apostles, who were witnesses of these saving events), and intensely personal (i.e., where it is received, believed, and held firmly, individual persons are saved).

7. The Redemption of Christ: I believe that, moved by love and in obedience to his Father, the eternal Son became human: The Word became flesh, fully God and fully human being, one person in two natures. The man Jesus, the promised Messiah of Israel, was conceived through the miraculous agency of the Holy Spirit and was born of the virgin Mary. He perfectly obeyed his heavenly Father, lived a sinless life, performed miraculous signs, was crucified under Pontius Pilate, arose bodily from the dead on the third day, and ascended into heaven. As the mediatorial King, he is seated at the right hand of God the Father, exercising in heaven and on earth all of God's sovereignty, and is our High Priest and righteous Advocate. I believe that by his incarnation, life, death, resurrection, and ascension, Jesus Christ acted as our representative and substitute. He did this so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. On the cross he canceled sin, propitiated God and, by bearing the full penalty of our sins, reconciled to God all those who believe. By his resurrection Christ Jesus was vindicated by his Father, broke the power of death and defeated Satan who once had power over death, and brought everlasting life to all his people. By his ascension he has been forever exalted as Lord and has prepared a place for us to be with him. I believe that salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name given under heaven by which we must be saved. Because God chose the lowly things of this world, the despised things, the things that are not, to nullify the things that are, no human being can ever boast before him—Christ Jesus has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness, and redemption.

 

[DialecticSkeptic]

What I Believe (cont'd)​

8. The Justification of Sinners: I believe that Christ, by his obedience and death, fully discharged the debt of all those who are justified. By his sacrifice, he bore in our place the punishment due us for our sins, making a proper, real, and full satisfaction to God's justice on our behalf. By his perfect obedience he satisfied the just demands of God on our behalf, since by faith alone that perfect obedience is credited to all who trust in Christ alone for their acceptance with God. Inasmuch as Christ was given by the Father for us, and his obedience and punishment were accepted in place of our own, freely and not for anything in us, this justification is solely of free grace, in order that both the exact justice and the rich grace of God might be glorified in the justification of sinners. I believe that a zeal for personal and public obedience flows from this free justification.

9. The Power of the Holy Spirit: I believe that this salvation, attested in all Scripture and secured by Jesus Christ, is applied to his people by the Holy Spirit. Sent by the Father and the Son, the Holy Spirit glorifies the Lord Jesus Christ and, as the "other" comforter, is present with and in believers. He convicts the world of sin, righteousness, and judgment, and by his powerful and mysterious work he regenerates spiritually dead sinners, awakening them to repentance and faith, and in him they are baptized into union with the Lord Jesus, such that they are justified before God by grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone. By the Spirit's agency, believers are renewed, sanctified, and adopted into God's family; they participate in the divine nature and receive his sovereignly distributed gifts. The Holy Spirit is himself the down payment of the promised inheritance, and in this age indwells, guides, instructs, equips, revives, and empowers believers for Christ-like living and service.

10. The Kingdom of God: I believe that those who have been saved by the grace of God through union with Christ by faith and through regeneration by the Holy Spirit enter the kingdom of God and delight in the blessings of the new covenant: the forgiveness of sins, the inward transformation that awakens a desire to glorify, trust, and obey God, and the prospect of the glory yet to be revealed. Good works constitute indispensable evidence of saving grace. Living as salt in a world that is decaying and light in a world that is dark, believers should neither withdraw into seclusion from the world, nor become indistinguishable from it: rather, we are to do good to the city, for all the glory and honor of the nations is to be offered up to the living God. Recognizing whose created order this is, and because we are citizens of God's kingdom, we are to love our neighbors as ourselves, doing good to all, especially to those who belong to the household of God. The kingdom of God, already present but not fully realized, is the exercise of God's sovereignty in the world toward the eventual redemption of all creation. The kingdom of God is an invasive power that plunders Satan's dark kingdom and regenerates and renovates through repentance and faith the lives of individuals rescued from that kingdom. It therefore inevitably establishes a new community of human life together under God.

11. God's New People: I believe that God's new covenant people have already come to the heavenly Jerusalem; they are already seated with Christ in the heavenlies. This universal church is manifest in local churches of which Christ is the only Head; thus each "local church" is, in fact, the church, the household of God, the assembly of the living God, and the pillar and foundation of the truth. The church is the body of Christ, the apple of his eye, graven on his hands, and he has pledged himself to her forever. The church is distinguished by her gospel message, her holy sacraments, her discipline, her great mission—and, above all, her love for God and her members' love for one another and for the world. Crucially, this gospel we cherish has both personal and corporate dimensions, neither of which may properly be overlooked. Christ Jesus is our peace; he has not only brought about peace with God but also peace between alienated peoples. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity, thus making peace, and in one body to reconcile both Jew and Gentile unto God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. The church serves as a sign of God's future new world when its members live for the service of one another and their neighbors, rather than for self-focus. The church is the corporate dwelling place of God's Spirit, and the continuing witness to God in the world.

12. Baptism and the Lord's Supper: I believe that baptism and the Lord's Supper are ordained by the Lord Jesus himself. The former is connected with entrance into the new covenant community, the latter with ongoing covenant renewal. Together they are simultaneously God's pledge to us, divinely ordained means of grace, our public vows of submission to the once crucified and now resurrected Christ, and anticipations of his return and of the consummation of all things.

13. The Restoration of All Things: I believe in the personal, glorious, and bodily return of our Lord Jesus Christ with his holy angels, when he will exercise his role as final Judge, and his kingdom will be consummated. I believe in the bodily resurrection of both the just and the unjust—the unjust to judgment and eternal conscious punishment in hell, as our Lord himself taught, and the just to eternal blessedness in the presence of him who sits on the throne and of the Lamb, in the new heaven and the new earth, the home of righteousness. On that day the church will be presented faultless before God by the obedience, suffering and triumph of Christ, all sin purged and its wretched effects forever banished. God will be all in all and his people will be enthralled by the immediacy of his ineffable holiness, and everything will be to the praise of his glorious grace.

I hold to an Amillennial eschatological view, which holds that the thousand-year reign of Christ on the earth is not literally and exactly 1,000 years but is, rather, a theological picture of the New Testament period wherein Christ reigns spiritually in the hearts of believers.​

 

[EarlyActs]

What I Believe (cont'd)​

8. The Justification of Sinners: I believe that Christ, by his obedience and death, fully discharged the debt of all those who are justified. By his sacrifice, he bore in our place the punishment due us for our sins, making a proper, real, and full satisfaction to God's justice on our behalf. By his perfect obedience he satisfied the just demands of God on our behalf, since by faith alone that perfect obedience is credited to all who trust in Christ alone for their acceptance with God. Inasmuch as Christ was given by the Father for us, and his obedience and punishment were accepted in place of our own, freely and not for anything in us, this justification is solely of free grace, in order that both the exact justice and the rich grace of God might be glorified in the justification of sinners. I believe that a zeal for personal and public obedience flows from this free justification.

9. The Power of the Holy Spirit: I believe that this salvation, attested in all Scripture and secured by Jesus Christ, is applied to his people by the Holy Spirit. Sent by the Father and the Son, the Holy Spirit glorifies the Lord Jesus Christ and, as the "other" comforter, is present with and in believers. He convicts the world of sin, righteousness, and judgment, and by his powerful and mysterious work he regenerates spiritually dead sinners, awakening them to repentance and faith, and in him they are baptized into union with the Lord Jesus, such that they are justified before God by grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone. By the Spirit's agency, believers are renewed, sanctified, and adopted into God's family; they participate in the divine nature and receive his sovereignly distributed gifts. The Holy Spirit is himself the down payment of the promised inheritance, and in this age indwells, guides, instructs, equips, revives, and empowers believers for Christ-like living and service.

10. The Kingdom of God: I believe that those who have been saved by the grace of God through union with Christ by faith and through regeneration by the Holy Spirit enter the kingdom of God and delight in the blessings of the new covenant: the forgiveness of sins, the inward transformation that awakens a desire to glorify, trust, and obey God, and the prospect of the glory yet to be revealed. Good works constitute indispensable evidence of saving grace. Living as salt in a world that is decaying and light in a world that is dark, believers should neither withdraw into seclusion from the world, nor become indistinguishable from it: rather, we are to do good to the city, for all the glory and honor of the nations is to be offered up to the living God. Recognizing whose created order this is, and because we are citizens of God's kingdom, we are to love our neighbors as ourselves, doing good to all, especially to those who belong to the household of God. The kingdom of God, already present but not fully realized, is the exercise of God's sovereignty in the world toward the eventual redemption of all creation. The kingdom of God is an invasive power that plunders Satan's dark kingdom and regenerates and renovates through repentance and faith the lives of individuals rescued from that kingdom. It therefore inevitably establishes a new community of human life together under God.

11. God's New People: I believe that God's new covenant people have already come to the heavenly Jerusalem; they are already seated with Christ in the heavenlies. This universal church is manifest in local churches of which Christ is the only Head; thus each "local church" is, in fact, the church, the household of God, the assembly of the living God, and the pillar and foundation of the truth. The church is the body of Christ, the apple of his eye, graven on his hands, and he has pledged himself to her forever. The church is distinguished by her gospel message, her holy sacraments, her discipline, her great mission—and, above all, her love for God and her members' love for one another and for the world. Crucially, this gospel we cherish has both personal and corporate dimensions, neither of which may properly be overlooked. Christ Jesus is our peace; he has not only brought about peace with God but also peace between alienated peoples. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity, thus making peace, and in one body to reconcile both Jew and Gentile unto God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. The church serves as a sign of God's future new world when its members live for the service of one another and their neighbors, rather than for self-focus. The church is the corporate dwelling place of God's Spirit, and the continuing witness to God in the world.

12. Baptism and the Lord's Supper: I believe that baptism and the Lord's Supper are ordained by the Lord Jesus himself. The former is connected with entrance into the new covenant community, the latter with ongoing covenant renewal. Together they are simultaneously God's pledge to us, divinely ordained means of grace, our public vows of submission to the once crucified and now resurrected Christ, and anticipations of his return and of the consummation of all things.

13. The Restoration of All Things: I believe in the personal, glorious, and bodily return of our Lord Jesus Christ with his holy angels, when he will exercise his role as final Judge, and his kingdom will be consummated. I believe in the bodily resurrection of both the just and the unjust—the unjust to judgment and eternal conscious punishment in hell, as our Lord himself taught, and the just to eternal blessedness in the presence of him who sits on the throne and of the Lamb, in the new heaven and the new earth, the home of righteousness. On that day the church will be presented faultless before God by the obedience, suffering and triumph of Christ, all sin purged and its wretched effects forever banished. God will be all in all and his people will be enthralled by the immediacy of his ineffable holiness, and everything will be to the praise of his glorious grace.

​

I hold to an Amillennial eschatological view, which holds that the thousand-year reign of Christ on the earth is not literally and exactly 1,000 years but is, rather, a theological picture of the New Testament period wherein Christ reigns spiritually in the hearts of believers.​

re Salvation, #6: you would be hard pressed to have a Reformation view and not use the word justification from Romans and Galatians. It is the root: God is now just and the justifier of the person who has faith upon Christ, Rom. 3.

Most 'amillenialism' actually has a view of a very long reign of Christ that is 'a-Disp-millenialism.' The Disp millenium is really very short on support.

 

[makesends]

Some fellow over at ChristianForums.com privately sent me an invitation to join this site, and it seemed related to me being Reformed. I had a brief look around and, yeah, this definitely seems like a place I could enjoy. So, allow me to remove my jacket, take off my hat, and make my way around the room, shaking hands.

I am a 44-year-old family man, happily married for 10 years with two baptized children. I was raised an atheist, being converted to Christianity late in life (i.e., early 30s). I began my faith journey as a dispensationalist Baptist (and young-earth creationist), but was later convinced of the doctrines of grace and started leaning toward a Reformed Baptist view of things. Before long, however, I discovered R. C. Sproul and my spiritual development really took off. I became convinced of covenant theology and eventually embraced a fully Reformed faith. I am a communicant member in good standing in a local Reformed church and subscribe to the Three Forms of Unity.

I am also an old-earth creationist who accepts the science of evolution—that is, an evolutionary creationist—while maintaining a firm conviction in a historical Adam and Eve who lived 6,000 years ago. My views on origins have been influenced by the likes of John H. Walton, Gregory K. Beale, Meredith G. Kline, J. Richard Middleton, Denis R. Alexander, John R. W. Stott, Carol Hill, S. Joshua Swamidass, Joshua M. Moritz—and so many others. My views on origins are singularly unique, which makes me incredibly difficult to pigeon-hole. So, don't make assumptions about what I believe; it's probably unlike most anything else you have encountered.

Having not heard of the Three Forms of Unity, I started reading the Belgic Confession. In it, it includes Hebrews among Paul's New Testament writings. Is that, for you, just opinion, (and for that matter, do you think, that for the writers of the Belgic Confession, it was just categorizing, listing, and not teaching as such), or doctrine? Just curious. No big deal.

 

[DialecticSkeptic]

Having not heard of the Three Forms of Unity, I started reading the Belgic Confession. In it, Hebrews is included among Paul's New Testament writings. Is that, for you, just opinion—and, for that matter, do you think that for the writers of the Belgic Confession it was just categorizing, listing, and not teaching as such—or doctrine? Just curious. No big deal.

I imagine that it wasn't mere opinion in the sixteenth century, but rather a belief widely held to be true. Up until this time, notwithstanding some notable dissenting views, the church widely accepted Pauline authorship. It was around the time of the Reformation and the resurgence of Greek scholarship that churchmen began to really investigate the authorship of the epistle. As Donald Guthrie said in his New Testament Introduction (Nottingham, England: InterVarsity Press, 1974), "Most modern writers find more difficulty in imagining how this epistle was ever attributed to Paul than in disposing of the theory" (p. 671). I am inclined to see this as little more than a reflection of the historical situation of the Belgic Confession; it was regarded as doctrine at the time but now as a quaint historical opinion. As for me, I agree with Luther who believed it was probably Apollos (Zondervan Academic Blog, 2017).

 

[donadams]

Welcome

My problem with the theory is that it is without purpose or meaning, God is almighty and could create the universe and man in any state why a process of eons, maybe you could help me understand? Thanks

 

[makesends]

Welcome

My problem with the theory is that it is without purpose or meaning, God is almighty and could create the universe and man in any state why a process of eons, maybe you could help me understand? Thanks

Why not both?

 

[donadams]

Why not both?

Cos it meaningless and purposeless

God is almighty and can create man in any state he chooses

He made us the way we are make and female
Thanks

 

[civic]

Welcome !