How would any of you here view Cryptozoology then?

[JesusFan]

To simply blow it off and say...nah, there's nothing to Bigfoot would be somewhat dishonest.

a lot depends on if one is seeing flesh and blood creatures, or else if they are demonic entities passing over into our reality for some reason. That is why tend to lump together bigfoot, dogman, a;liens, ufo all as cosmic trickster activity , to mess around with humanity

 

[CrowCross]

The problem is that if they are paranormal creatures, will be no physical evidence to see

Some people may expect there to be angel fossils....like Lucy Simpson found.

 

[makesends]

To simply blow it off and say...nah, there's nothing to Bigfoot would be somewhat dishonest.

Sensationalism has always been appealing to humans —native American or otherwise. I don't think it is intellectually dishonest, except to those who are more easily sensationalistically affected.

 

[CrowCross]

I don't see how that follows. For example, demon possession has very definite physical manifestations that are NOT illusory. Angels are known to present as men and even to eat.

For that matter, all that we consider physical/material is at its base essence existent by paranormal means (by God himself).

Angels have been know to have children through women (Gen 6) and produce what is commonly called giants....After the flood of Noah they were with us again demonstrated by the remains have been found.

 

[CrowCross]

a lot depends on if one is seeing flesh and blood creatures, or else if they are demonic entities passing over into our reality for some reason. That is why tend to lump together bigfoot, dogman, a;liens, ufo all as cosmic trickster activity , to mess around with humanity

There is a "reality" above our 3D + time dimension.

 

[JesusFan]

Angels have been know to have children through women (Gen 6) and produce what is commonly called giants....After the flood of Noah they were with us again demonstrated by the remains have been found.

Nephilim?

 

[CrowCross]

Sensationalism has always been appealing to humans —native American or otherwise. I don't think it is intellectually dishonest, except to those who are more easily sensationalistically affected.

The resurrection of our dead Savior could have been considered as sensationalism and perhaps still is by some people.

 

[CrowCross]

Nephilim?

There are several names that they go by. For example Og was called "Rephaim" (Deut 3:11)

 

[makesends]

The resurrection of our dead Savior could have been considered as sensationalism and perhaps still is by some people.

True that! In fact, I've run into a few who look at the resurrection (as they do many other Biblically things) superstitiously.

 

[makesends]

Angels have been know to have children through women (Gen 6) and produce what is commonly called giants....After the flood of Noah they were with us again demonstrated by the remains have been found.

Or so you say. I was only saying that @JesusFan 's construction, "The problem is that if they are paranormal creatures, will be no physical evidence to see" to me did not follow, in that context.

Repeating the claim does not add to the proof of it.

 

[CrowCross]

True that! In fact, I've run into a few who look at the resurrection (as they do many other Biblically things) superstitiously.

I hear that with people here who think that the fallen angels called watchers could not produce offspring with humans.

 

[CrowCross]

Or so you say. I was only saying that @JesusFan 's construction, "The problem is that if they are paranormal creatures, will be no physical evidence to see" to me did not follow, in that context.

Repeating the claim does not add to the proof of it.

The angels who visited Lot and were desired by the men of the city of Sodom (Gen 19)...

Those angels were physical beings....and being angels also had supernatural abilities.
The angels ate...something a spiritual being can't really do.
The angels were able to grab Lot and bring him into the house...then supernaturally blind the men outside.
Later on the angels seized Lot and his wife and his two daughters by the hand....once again demonstrating physicality.

But as to physical evidence...if Lot cut their hair would their hair have remained after they left?
If the angels stepped in the mud would they not leave footprints?

 

[Arial]

Angels have been know to have children through women (Gen 6) and produce what is commonly called giants....After the flood of Noah they were with us again demonstrated by the remains have been found.

Where were they during the flood?

 

[JesusFan]

Where were they during the flood?

Maybe all Drowning?

 

[Arial]

Maybe all Drowning?

I would think so. So my question to @CrowCross would be, how then were there some after the flood?

 

[CrowCross]

Where were they during the flood?

Dead.

 

[CrowCross]

I would think so. So my question to @CrowCross would be, how then were there some after the flood?

3 answers.
1) They survived the flood...which I disagree with.
2) The fallen angels did it again.
3) The Nephillim DNA was spread through Hams wife.

As a bonus..
4) Genetic modification to the human DNA performed after the flood.

I'm going with number 2.

What is your answer? How then were there some after the flood?

 

[Arial]

3 answers.
1) They survived the flood...which I disagree with.
2) The fallen angels did it again.
3) The Nephillim DNA was spread through Hams wife.

As a bonus..
4) Genetic modification to the human DNA performed after the flood.

I'm going with number 2.

What is your answer? How then were there some after the flood?

My answer is that fallen angels did not reproduce with human women and produce giant hybrids. Ever. I believe that because it is never stated in the Bible but is the product of myths that entered into Jewish thought through speculation and imagination and in places such as we see in the church at Ephesus in 1 Tim and addressed again in Col 2: 16-19 by Paul. In 1 Tim he calls them false teachers who devote themselves to myths and endless genealogy promoting speculation rather than the stewardship from God that is by faith.

In Col 2 he refers to these false teachers as insisting on asceticism and worship of angels going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason, not holding fast to the Head from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments grow with a growth that is from God.

Sounds remarkably like the influences of the intertestamental period and the writings of 1 Enoch, Jubilees and the other non-canonical documents the Essenes copied and that were found in the Qumran caves. It was invading Christianity. Still is evidently.

 

[Arial]

Dead.

Were they resurrected?

 

[CrowCross]

My answer is that fallen angels did not reproduce with human women and produce giant hybrids

That's all I need to read. You're wrong.

have a nice day.