Hell's New Arrivals

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Judas goats are trained for use in slaughterhouses and herd control. In stockyards,
they lead sheep to slaughter; and are also used to lead other animals to specific
pens and on to trucks. The term is a reference to the biblical traitor Judas Iscariot.

The phrase has also been used to describe goats utilized to locate feral goats
targeted for eradication. They're usually outfitted with a transmitter, painted in red
and then released. The goats then locate the remaining herds of feral goats,
allowing hunters with tracking devices to find and exterminate them. The red paint
marks the goat with the transmitter so the hunters know which one not to shoot.

You know what can be even worse than going to Hell? Your own children following
you there: and they trusted you.

Here's a sort of cute story I heard once. I don't know if it's true but I guess it's
plausible.

A farmer went out to the barn in the dead of night after a snowfall to sneak a pull
from his secret liquor bottle. Just as he got to the barn door he heard something
behind him. Turning, the farmer recognized his little boy coming towards him. In
amazement he asked the little guy how he ever managed to find his way out to the
barn in the dark. His son replied: It was easy; I walked in your footprints.

One can only imagine the anguish that parents in the netherworld must feel
knowing that they inadvertently raised their children in an ideology that led them
down a road to the infernal regions and all the while sincerely believing themselves
doing the right thing. In other words: they actually Judas-goated their children to
follow mom and dad down there. For some families, the only thing they have to
look forward to in the afterlife is a sad reunion in fire and despair.

UPDATE: 51 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 3,537,564 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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● Luke 16:22-25 . . It came to pass that a rich man died, and was buried. And in
Hades lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham on the other side of an impassible
barrier. And Abraham said: Son, remember . . .

I should think that one of the negative aspects of perdition is memory. How people
down there retain their memories sans the brain cells they left behind with their
corpse, I don't know; but they do. Apparently God has some sort of file transfer
protocol that silicon valley has yet to discover.

The older one gets, the more memories they accumulate, and many of those
memories haunt us with terrible regret. Well; some folks' regrets can be
rationalized, but for others; their past will forever be an albatross hung around their
neck.

UPDATE: 53 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 3,676,292 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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● Gen 6:5 . . God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that
every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

The thoughts of the heart are somewhat different than the thoughts that go
through the mind; and are often blocked out, viz: "repressed"; defined as a mental
process by which distressing thoughts, memories, or impulses that may give rise to
anxiety are excluded from consciousness and left to operate in the unconscious, i.e.
the subconscious which, in Freud's opinion, is a repository for socially unacceptable
ideas, wishes or desires, traumatic memories, and painful emotions.

In other words: the subconscious is an area of our being that we struggle to
prevent becoming public; and thus become tormented with inner conflicts that
sometimes become so unbearable that they result in nervous breakdowns: and
even suicide.

● Matt 15:19 . . Out of the heart proceed evil thoughts

So then, it's not how our mind works that defines us, no, it's how our heart works
that really defines us; and our hearts are capable of influencing our self awareness
so that we end up with a false impression of ourselves.

● Jer 17:9 . .The human heart is most deceitful and desperately wicked. Who really
knows how bad it is?

God is able to peer into the heart's contents. That means He will be confronting
people with things about themselves that they suppressed and kept under wraps all
their lives; and that's why I sometimes say only a fool would take their chances
with God. They have no clue the extent of the psychological tsunami they're
walking into.

● Jer 17:10 . . I, The Lord, search the heart and examine the mind

● Rom 2:16 . . God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel
declares.

UPDATE: 55 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 3,815,020 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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According to a report released on March 25, 2014 by the World Health
Organization; air pollution kills, on average, seven million people per annum;
and is linked to one in eight deaths (12.5%) world-wide.

According to a report by the public health agency of the United Nations; an
estimated 4.3 million people in developing countries died in 2012 as a result of
indoor air pollution, mostly from cooking with coal and wood-fired stoves.

Air pollution is so lethal because it exacerbates other conditions like cardio vascular
diseases, cancer, and respiratory illnesses. Were people with those conditions
permitted to breathe clean air free of hazardous chemicals and toxic particulates,
they would live longer; thus the arrival times of many tagged for the infernal
regions would be delayed so they could enjoy life a bit longer before beginning an
eternity of perpetual anguish.

UPDATE: 57 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 3,953,748 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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The wrath of God is interesting. For example:

● Isa 13:9 . . Behold, the day of The Lord comes-- cruel; with both wrath and fierce
anger

The Hebrew word for "wrath" in that statement is 'ebrah (eb-raw') which indicates
an outburst of passion. In other words: the wrath of God won't be weeping big wet
crocodile tears while it's slamming the dead at the Great White Throne event
depicted at Rev 20:11-15; no, they will be terminated with extreme prejudice; viz:
their judgment will be administered with choler. (cf. Isa 63:1-6, Rev 19:15)

Webster's defines "fierce" as a behavior exhibited by humans and animals that
inspires terror because of the wild and menacing aspect of fury in attack. Ferocity is
an aspect commonly seen among carnivorous beasts savagely attacking prey.
There's neither sportsmanship nor sympathy in ferocity; only sheer terror, brutality,
and blood lust.

"cruel" is defined as: disposed to inflict pain or suffering; viz: devoid of humane
feelings

● Heb 10:27 . . A certain fearful expectation of . . . fiery indignation

"fiery indignation" is quite a bit more severe than ordinary indignation. It speaks of
someone who is seriously ticked off; and so angry that they're actually red in the
face.

There are people out there in pews all around the world who have been so coddled
by sappy versions of Christianity that they have no concept of the magnitude of the
lethal tsunami of rage and violence coming their way to get them.

Another interesting aspect of the wrath of God is the person appointed to
administer it-- none other than the sweet little babe away in a manger.

● John 5:22-23 . .The Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the
Son, that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father.

● Acts 17:31 . . For God has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by
the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising him from
the dead.

● Rev 19:15 . . He shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treads the winepress
of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

UPDATE: 59 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 4,092,476 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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● Acts 2:31a . . his soul was not left in Hades

Classical Hades is divided into sections where the souls of all the dead-- regardless
of age, race, gender, or religious preference --are assigned in accordance with the
quality of their pre-death existence. The worst section is a deep abyss called
Tartarus; which is utilized in 2Pet 2:4

Luke 23:13 says Jesus' soul waited for his body's recovery in a better section of
Hades he called paradise; translated from a Greek word for parks and recreation,
i.e. an Eden.

According to Luke 16:23 the poor slobs over in the hell section of Hades can look
across to paradise and see what they're missing: sort of like destitute urchins
gazing thru the window of a posh restaurant at what people have on their plates;
which speaks very loudly of want and privation.

FAQ: Paradise is down in the netherworld?

REPLY: The Pacific Crest Trail (a.k.a. PCT) traverses the north/south length of three
states-- California, Oregon, and Washington. No matter where hiker trash might be
located on the trail at any given moment-- whether south in Campo San Diego, or
crossing the Columbia River on the Bridge Of The Gods 2,140 trail-miles to the
north in Cascade Locks Oregon --they're all on the very same PCT.

Paradise is sort of like that. There's a piece of it in the netherworld (Matt 12:40,
Luke 16:19-31) another in a celestial region that Paul labeled the third heaven
(2Cor 12:2-4) and yet another is located with God. (Rev 2:7)

UPDATE: 61 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 4,231,204 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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A forgiven sinner is still sinful, and they'll go right on sinning same as before and
thus needing forgiveness again and again ad infinitum.

● Gen 6:5 . .The Lord saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become,
and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time.

● Gen 8:21 . . Man's thoughts and actions are bent toward evil from childhood.

● Jer 13:23 . . Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots? Then may
you also do good who are accustomed to do evil.

Well; in light of the passages above, it's certainly no surprise to me that people
need to upgrade the very core of their being so that they would, by nature, be the
children of Heaven rather than the children of Hell that they are now.

● John 3:7 . . You should not be surprised at my saying you must be born
again.

UPDATE: 63 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 4,369,932 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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The reservoir of burning sulfur depicted at Rev 20:10-15 is not only a rack but also
a gallows. The reservoir is primarily an instrument for carrying out death sentences.

A death sentence-- although a sentence with lasting effects --isn't perpetual; it's
momentary. In other words: criminals are subjected to execution only long enough
to end their lives.

The primary reason we call the second death "eternal" is because it's permanent;
viz: according to Dan 12:2 and John 5:28-29 there's only one resurrection allotted
per person. Therefore nobody is coming back from the second death because they
will have used up their one resurrection to stand and face justice at the Great White
Throne event.

NOTE: People walk away alive from the fire spoken of at 1Cor 3:5-15. Nobody walks
away alive from the fire spoken of at Rev 20:10-15.

UPDATE: 65 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 4,508,660 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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Human existence on earth is a composite of body, soul, and spirit. (Gen 2:7, 1Thes
5:23, Heb 4:12)

The body and the soul are readily destroyed by means of Hell fire (Matt 10:28) but
I have yet to come across a passage in the Bible teaching that the spirit is
destroyed by that means; or by any means for that matter.

In what condition people will exist in the lake of brimstone depicted at Rev 20:11
15 minus a human body and a human soul I don't know. It might be that the
human spirit is transferable.

What if God is able to move people's spirit around at will and attach it to a body
and soul other than a human body and soul; say, the body and soul of a demonic
being? The very thought of such a possibility is disturbing.

● Ecc 12:7 . . Then the dust returns to the earth just as it happened to be and the
spirit itself returns to God who gave it. (cf. Luke 23:46)

The million-dollar question is: What comes next for people's spirit when it gets back
in God's hands?

UPDATE: 67 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 4,647,388 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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POSIT: I'm special; God understands me. Although He probably may not let others
off; I'm sure God will make an exception for me because I'm not like other people;
I'm different.

REPLY: Unfortunately, the Bible's God can't do that. If He were to make exceptions,
God would be neither equitable, nor honest-- and worse, it would go against His
grain, compromise His integrity, sin against His conscience; and cause Him to lose
the world's respect.

No, God doesn't grade on a curve: everyone is treated equally in God's courtroom.
In a system of divine absolutes; there is neither a curve nor an exception: nobody
gets any favors, nobody is special, and nobody is a protected species.

● Deut 10:17 . . Jehovah shows no partiality and accepts no bribes.

● Acts 10:34 . .Then Peter began to speak: I now realize how true it is that God is
impartial.

● Rom 2:5-11 . . For there is coming a day of judgment when God, the just judge
of all the world, will judge all people according to what they have done. He will give
eternal life to those who persist in doing what is good, seeking after the glory and
honor and immortality that God offers.

. . . But he will pour out his anger and wrath on those who live for themselves, who
refuse to obey the truth; and practice evil deeds. There will be anguish and
calamity for everyone who practices evil-- for the Jew first and also for the Gentile.
But there will be glory and honor and peace from God for all practice good --for the
Jew first and also for the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism.

UPDATE: 69 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 4,786,116 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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The rich man spoken of in Luke 16:19-31 addressed Abraham as "father" and he in
turn addressed the man as "son" which suggests they are very distantly related as
grandfather/grandson.

(cf. Luke 16:29. Moses and the Prophets came along several centuries after
Abraham's passing.)

I have two grandsons. I'm not sure how well I will cope should either of them end
up in the wrong place.

UPDATE: 71 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 4,924,844 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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The laws of God require eye for eye, tooth for tooth, burning for burning, hand for
hand, foot for foot, wound for wound, and stripe for stripe.

Where does that leave people like Ted Kaczynski who killed and/or maimed 26
people with homemade bombs; or Stephen Paddock who indiscriminately sprayed a
music concert in Las Vegas with a rifle equipped with a bump stock resulting in 471
dead and/or wounded; and the numerous serial killers that are in and out of the
news from time to time? How are those murderers supposed to balance the scales
of justice for all the illegal deaths they've caused?

Well; the fact of the matter is: they can't balance the scales because they simply
don't' have enough lives of their own with which to atone for their victims' lives.

This makes me suspect that perdition isn't uniform, i.e. there's one Hell, but its
circumstances may be something akin to the nine levels of Inferno in Dante
Alighieri's Divine Comedy. Wouldn't that be something?

UPDATE: 74 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 5,132,936 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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● Jonah 4:9-11 . . God said to Jonah: Do you have a cause to be angry about the
vine? I do; he said. I am angry enough to die.

. . . But The Lord said: You have been concerned about this vine, though you did
not tend it or make it grow. It sprang up overnight and died overnight. But Nineveh
has more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right
hand from their left, and many cattle as well. Should I not be concerned about that
great city?

Had not the adults of Nineveh changed their ways from Jonah's preaching, 120,000
small children would have died through no fault of their own. They would have been
collateral damage due to their parents' decadence.

Though the city was spared in Jonah's day, a hundred years later in Nahum's day it
was destroyed by means of war and conquest; whereby a whole new generation of
pre-schoolers died before their time.

Just exactly how God is able to engineer such things is a bit of a mystery; but does
make one wonder where else this terrifying work of His goes on. Did God somehow
have a hand in the American civil war, and the first and second world wars, and the
Holocaust, and in Korea and Vietnam, and in the so-called Arab Spring, and in the
pandemics, the ethnic cleansings, ISIS, the housing bubble, and the genocides of
the last century, and in natural events like mighty earthquakes, tsunamis, and
super storms? I really have to wonder sometimes because Jonah's God is still out
there somewhere; and so-called acts of God are still taking young lives.

UPDATE: 76 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 5,271,664 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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● Rom 6:23 . .The wages of sin is death

That rule is very serious because, at most, people have only two lives to forfeit for
sin-- the life they have now, and the one they'll have later at their resurrection; but
unfortunately, their current life has already been forfeited due to Adam's
disobedience in the garden of Eden so they can't use this life to atone for any of
their own disobedience.

And when they're resurrected to stand trial at the Great White Throne event
depicted at Rev 20:11-15; that'll be their last life because according to Dan 12:2
and John 5:28-29 there's only one resurrection allotted per person.

That's at least one of the reasons why no one is coming back from the second
death depicted at Rev 20:11-15, i.e. there's no third death nor fourth death, ad
infinitum.

UPDATE: 78 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 5,410,392 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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When people neglect to think about the hereafter; they become like a frog boiled to
death by starting it out in cold water.

● Mark 4:3-19 . . Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow: and some fell
among thorns, and the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit. These
are they such as hear the word, and the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness
of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh
unfruitful.

Well, hello there
My, it's been a long, long time
How am I doing?
Oh, I guess that I'm doing fine

It's been so long now
But it seems now that it was only yesterday
Gee, ain't it funny
How time slips away?
(Billy Walker, 1961)

UPDATE: 80 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 5,549,120 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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FAQ: What might Hell's culture be like?

REPLY: Seeing as how nobody down there has any more reason to be civil, then I
think new arrivals can expect to be ill treated in that world.

Also, folks down there are deprived of the regeneration spoken of per John 3:3-8 so
they are there as they were here. Well; human nature tends to deteriorate, sort of
like the decay experienced by road kill and spoiled fruits and vegetables. I'd expect
that the lost get badder and badder and badder as time goes on so that even a
saint like Mother Teresa would eventually become so evil that her conduct in Hell
would be disturbing to behold.

And then; according to Matt 7:21-23, not everyone talking the talk will make the
cut.

Well; I would not want to be one of them because they will surely be mocked
cruelly and without mercy by some of the netherworld's unruly crowd. I can just
hear their giggling and their taunts:

Hey Christian! How's about sharing the gospel with us ay? Tell us about the love of
God and how that's working for ya. Awwwww-Haw-Haw-Haw- Hawwwwwwwww!

I'd rather end up in Hell as a Bernie Madoff than a failed Christian because ol' ponzi
schemer Bernie is sure to be given far more respect down there than a bible
thumper.

UPDATE: 82 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 5,687,848 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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● Ps 115:17-18 . .The dead do not praise The Lord, nor do any who go down into
silence.

The first "dead" in that verse are not yet deceased but might just as well be seeing
as how their attitude towards God lacks reverence.

"any who go down into silence" are the dead who've passed on. Well; they're no
different down below than when up here on the surface, i.e. they're still irreverent.

The wrong side of the netherworld is likely pretty noisy, but communication with
God is impossible. The Bible says to call upon God while He is near. Well, there
comes a time for the dead when God is too distant, i.e. He's permanently
estranged. That's a kind of silence that no one should take lightly.

UPDATE: 84 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 5,826,576 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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I think most folks would agree that monsters like Kim Jong-Un, Xi Jinping, Robert
Mugabe, Muammar Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, human traffickers, and drug cartel
kingpins belong in Hell; but why are decent folk down there?

Well; obviously humanity's moral compass points to a different north than their
maker's, viz: sometimes what's tolerable in human reasoning is unacceptable to
God. Why is that?

In the beginning; humanity was created with a conscience patterned after its
maker's conscience.

"And God said: Let us make man in our image, after our likeness . . So God created
man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female
created he them." (Gen 1:26-27)

Then came the forbidden fruit incident, wherein humanity's conscience lost its
innocence and became humanistic.

Then the Lord God said: Behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good
and evil. (Gen 3:22)

In other words; Man became a tin God conducting himself in accord with his own
moral values.

* There's a rather humorous scene in Dante's Inferno where these two guys who
knew each other in life are quarreling over who deserves Hell more than the other;
which is pretty silly when it's considered that both were condemned to the same
level down there. For example: a number of elitist Christians are far more tolerable
of dishonesty than they are of LGBTQ yet both the liar and the deviant are on track
for the very same fate. (Rev 21:8)

I rather suspect that quite a few folks sincerely believe God has made a big mistake
sending them down there. In their judicious estimation; others deserve it for sure,
but not themselves.

UPDATE: 86 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 5,965,304 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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FAQ: Was Adam's disobedience a Hell-worthy transgression?

REPLY: No. According to Gen 2:17 it was a death-worthy transgression rather than
Hell-worthy. In other words; the proper penalty for Adam's mistake was simply his
loss of immortality; and of course loss of access to the tree of life to make sure he'd
die. (Gen 3:22-24) Now as for Adam's later sins; that's another story.

FAQ: Did Jesus' virgin conception insulate him from Adam's fall?

REPLY: According to Romans 5:12-21 the so-called original sin isn't inherited,
rather; it's imputed; and it isn't imputed to each in his own time, but was imputed
to all in real time. In other words: the moment Adam tasted the forbidden fruit his
entire posterity was doomed to mortality right then and there: no delay and no
waiting period.

The thing is: although Jesus wasn't biologically related to Joseph, he was
biologically related to his mother, and she in turn was biologically related to Eve
who was constructed top to bottom, inside and out, front to back, and side to side
with material taken from Adam's body; thus making Jesus a legitimate member of
Adam's posterity. So then; had Jesus not died on the cross, he would've eventually
died of some other cause because The Word per John 1:1-3 didn't come into the
world per John 1:14 as divine flesh, rather, as ordinary Jewish flesh. (Gen 49:10,
Rom 1:3, and Rom 8:3)

UPDATE: 88 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 6,104,032 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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● 2Tim 3:1-3 . . This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For
people shall be . . .without natural affection

The Greek word translated "without natural affection" means hard-hearted towards
kindred; viz: lacking in sympathetic understanding i.e. unfeeling, pitiless,
thoughtless, insensitive, cruel, and inhumane.

The Greek word translated "without natural affection" means hard-hearted towards
kindred; viz: lacking in sympathetic understanding i.e. unfeeling, pitiless,
thoughtless, insensitive, cruel, and inhumane.

There are actually kids growing up in homes right here in the USA where their
parents never give them even one atta-boy. As a result, they grow up feeling ugly,
unwanted, stupid, useless, marginal, expendable, incompetent, and unnecessary.

There are also kids growing up in homes where moms never hug them nor bother
to take the time to forge a bond between mother and child. Thus they grow up with
reactive attachment disorder; feeling convinced that no one could possibly ever
love them or be their best friend forever. RAD kids grow up to become adults with
some serious trust issues.

There are monsters at large burning their kids with cigarettes, pouring Tabasco
sauce in their eyes, locking them in hall closets and basements without food and
water for days, ignoring their opinions, demeaning them with denigrating labels,
ridiculing them, threatening their lives, working them as slaves without
compensation, denying their kids things just so they won't appear to indulge them,
and/or saying "no" to their kids' requests for no good reason than that they don't
want to seem weak and under their control.

Those cruel beasts routinely abuse their kids' human rights and relegate them to
the level of livestock rather than bona fide human beings with feelings and a mind
of their own. They nurture within their kids a feeling of unimportance, of not
belonging in their own home, and making them feel like an invasive species and
uninvited guests.

Ergo: people without natural affection can't be allowed to associate with the
civilized folks of Heaven-- they have to be quarantined; kept back.

UPDATE: 90 days have elapsed since beginning the thread. If the OP's figures are in
the ball park, then something like 6,242,760 new arrivals have checked into the fiery
sector of Hades since July 04, 2023.
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