GOD CREATED MAN (ADAM) SINFUL

[jeremiah1five]

No it doesn't it says calamity. Bad translation.

New American Standard Bible
The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating disaster; I am the LORD who does all these things.

NET Bible
I am the one who forms light and creates darkness; the one who brings about peace and creates calamity. I am the LORD, who accomplishes all these things.

Even the NJKV corrected the bad translation of the KJV.

New King James Version
I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, the LORD, do all these things.’

King James Bible
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

I don’t trust the Greek translation of Westcott and Hort and all the modern new-age versions that come from it. God Authorized the King James for the English-speaking people of His Church.

 

[jeremiah1five]

That is why the context and nuance of every statement must be discerned, which is what we are asking you today about 'God created evil.' Somehow you knew there was a context there on 'fool' but on 'evil' you think the expression is a blank check to apply anywhere.

Not everywhere.

Only in this context:

1 Samuel 24:13 (KJV 1900): 13 As saith the proverb of the ancients, Wickedness proceedeth from the wicked:

Adam sinned.
Sin comes from sinner.
Thus, he was a sinner (missing the mark of the glory of God) before he sinned the sin of disobedience.

 

[EarlyActs]

I don’t trust the Greek translation of Westcott and Hort and all the modern new-age versions that come from it. God Authorized the King James for the English-speaking people of His Church.

Regardless, there are many nuances of evil. You can't possibly believe God embraces all forms. If so, 'if there is a god, he is the devil'--French cynic Baudelaire

 

[EarlyActs]

Not everywhere.

Only in this context:

1 Samuel 24:13 (KJV 1900): 13 As saith the proverb of the ancients, Wickedness proceedeth from the wicked:

Adam sinned.
Sin comes from sinner.
Thus, he was a sinner (missing the mark of the glory of God) before he sinned disobedience.

Please check the grammar of your last sentence.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Regardless, there are many nuances of evil. You can't possibly believe God embraces all forms. If so, 'if there is a god, he is the devil'--French cynic Baudelaire

God doesn’t embrace all forms of evil.
Man does.

 

[civic]

I don’t trust the Greek translation of Westcott and Hort and all the modern new-age versions that come from it. God Authorized the King James for the English-speaking people of His Church.

No God authorized and inspired the original documents written in Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Please check the grammar of your last sentence.

Done.
Thanks.

 

[jeremiah1five]

No God authorized and inspired the original documents written in Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic.

And the kjv.

 

[civic]

And the kjv.

Nope God didn’t inspire that , nice try .

Every translation has errors the originals do not .

 

[EarlyActs]

God doesn’t embrace all forms of evil.
Man does.

That's why you have to qualify what you mean. When the British Mosquitos stormed a Dutch office building they knew was a Nazi HQ, flying low at 300 mph, one of them nicked a roof and went down, hitting children at a school. Evil things happen, but God did not create them, any more than the RAF intended.

 

[EarlyActs]

And the kjv.

If you don't moderate your remarks toward a rational position, I'll have to ignore.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Nope God didn’t inspire that , nice try .

I said authorize.
Not inspired.
But the kjv is of God.

 

[EarlyActs]

Please check the grammar of your last sentence.

What does "sinned disobedience" mean?

 

[jeremiah1five]

That's why you have to qualify what you mean. When the British Mosquitos stormed a Dutch office building they knew was a Nazi HQ, flying low at 300 mph, one of them nicked a roof and went down, hitting children at a school. Evil things happen, but God did not create them, any more than the RAF intended.

With the creation of sinful Adam God set in motion all that happens on this planet.
He ordained all things.
The Mind of God is so great that He set in motion all things good and evil and still come to His predetermined outcome.

 

[jeremiah1five]

What does "sinned disobedience" mean?

His knowledge of sin was his sin of disobedience.
He sinned disobedience just as one can sin murder or stealing.

 

[civic]

I said authorize.
Not inspired.
But the kjv is of God.

Well in that case the latin vulgate was "authorized" long before the kjv.

 

[jeremiah1five]

I am not certain of the words here:
I have thought that in Christ as both man and God, God was showing man that a man could obey God. The laws were not an impossible burden.
Christ showed how a man could resist temptation. In that He was both man, correcting the sin of Adam and God, instructing us in His ways.
IT was part of the mission of Christ, the redemption of the world, so the temptation would be a "substitution" with Jesus acting as a substitute Adam to show us the way when the will of man and the will of God are in accordance.

Only a Holy God/Man could obey God’s Law.
Adam was not holy. His sin proves this.
He was created sinful, or missing the mark of the glory of God, and this is why he sinned.
Sin comes from sinner.
Sin does not come from holy.
The Second Adam proved this.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Sin comes from free will, with the ability to choose unrighteousness.

It's not rocket science.

So Jesus died for free will?
What free will is this when there is no free will. Only God’s Will.
God’s Will is Sovereign.
Man’s will is not.
Free will in man is an illusion.
Man’s will cannot even choose Christ.
It chooses sin and evil.
The same way Adam chose to sin.
A leopard cannot change its spots.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Well in that case the latin vulgate was "authorized" long before the kjv.

The original vulgate was the Received Text.
The Latin was used in the completion of the English KJV.
But it (Latin Vulgate) had its problems with accuracy.

 

[Eleanor]

That’s what a fool says.
The fool says that because they disbelieve what Scripture/God has said and Scripture/God says that God created evil.
You disbelieve the Scripture/God.
What’s indicated?

So understood in reference to its context, now you're getting it.