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Genesis 6:1-5 who are the sons of God and daughters of man that is talked about?

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The Translation says - Jude 1:7; just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after STRANGE flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.
the Greek manuscripts say nothing about - “ STRANGE flesh


The manuscripts are in no way directly - comparing the downfall of the angels to the similar sins of SODOM AND GOMORRHA, but the translators are changing, adding and inserting their own narrative, to give the message that the angels had sinned after - STRANGE flesh “ - in fornication and sexual immorality,
just as Sodom and Gomorrah
; - just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these indulged in gross immorality and went after STRANGE flesh,

- and they CHANGE the Greek word " ετερας " and insert the word " STRANGE "

The Greek word
ετερας – means = " another or other " - they delete the word = ετερας - “ IS ANOTHER “ - and they insert and change the word to say ---

" they went after
STRANGE fleshwhat they are doing here is deleting a word, changing it - - then inventing a - RUN ON SENTENCE, into the passage.

But the word " STRANGE " is nowhere in the passage. THIS IS TOTALLY UNTRUTHFUL


This Greek word - ετερας - = means “ IS ANOTHER “

Heb 7:13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to ANOTHER tribe. - - ετερας " - Another

Mat 6:24 and Luk 16:13 A man serving two masters: will love one or despise THE OTHER..... - = ετερας - OTHER


Mat 8:21 ANOTHER - ετερας - disciples said unto him.
Mat 11:3 Are you the one or - do we look for " ANOTHER -
ετερας "
Mat 15:30 Yahoshua healed – many " OTHERS -
ετερας"
Mat 16:14 Are you John the Baptist: or - " ANOTHER -
ετερας "
Mar 16:12 Yahoshua appeared in " ANOTHER -
ετερας " form / morph.
Luk 3:18 John preached many OTHER -
ετερας THINGS.
Luk 4:43 I must Preach to " OTHER -
ετερας " cities.
Luk 5:7 The were in the " OTHERS -
ετερας" ship.
Luk 6:6 Upon " ANOTHER -
ετερας " Sabbath
Luk 8:3 and many " OTHERS -
ετερας "
Luk 9:56 They went to " ANOTHER -
ετερας " village.
Luk 9:59 He said unto ANOTHER. - Luk 9:61 And ANOTHER
ετερας also said.
Luk 10:1 The Lord appointed OTHERS
ετερας - Luk 11:16 He was tempted by OTHERS ετερας
Luk 11:26 Seven OTHER ετερας spirits. -


Luk 14: 19 + 20 and Luk 16:7 - He said to ANOTHER.
ετερας
Luk 14:31 War against ANOTHER ετερας king.
Luk 16:18 Whoever puts away a wife, and marries ANOTHER.
ετερας
Luk 17:35 Two women - one taken, and the OTHER ετερας left behind.
Luk 17:36 Two men - one taken, and the OTHER
ετερας left behind.
Luk 18:10 The OTHER
ετερας was a publican.
Luk 19:20 And ANOTHER
ετερας came.
Luk 20:11 He sent ANOTHER
ετερας servant:
Luk 22:65 Many OTHER
ετερας things
Luk 23:32 Also two OTHERS
ετερας
Luk 23:40 The OTHERS ετερας answered.


In fact, this Greek word never changes anywhere in its meaning – this goes on through the entire bible. The Greek word = ετερας - OTHER - appears in the manuscripts - a total of " 99 " times.

And out of the TOTAL "
99 " total times - the translators every SINGLE LAST TIME without a single exception - they translate this same exact word, every time, to say " ANOTHER "
BUT EXCEPT FOR - IN ONE SINGLE VERSE, here in -
Jude 1:7 the translators change this into
STRANGE “ flesh “ changing the Greek word " ANOTHER " into the word “: strange :”

ONE SINGLE TIME, IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE TRANSLATION - they delete the word "
Another " and they change and alter it to say " STRANGE " inserting / adding in - the word " strange " But the passage had just ended the sentence – STATING exactly - AS THESE CITIES, THIS IS SIMILAR THEIR MANNER OUT OF FORNICATION AND TURNING AWAY AFTER THE FLESH ....

That's it - end of the manuscript narrative - then the passage moves on to next say .....


ετερας IS ANOTHER - προκεινται SET BEFORE - δειγμα EXAMPLE - πυρος OF FIRE - αιωνιου ETERNAL - δικην JUSTICE - υπεχουσαι UNDER HOLDING.


Strange is from older English ‘stray’ and effectively communicates that it was other species.
 
Gen 2 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
( wives / marriage)

Matthew 22:30
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Angels have no father and mother!

Angels do not marry! Or take a wife!

Angels are pure spirits and cannot have sex! Angels are not offspring nor do they have offspring!

Only men do!

Hebrews 1:5
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee?
Wow! Amazing....

Men are still having sex with women and producing giants all the time.
 
Robert wadlow?
Andre the giant?

Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Scripture declares there were giants in the land before the sons of God married the daughters

Not offspring of angels
Thanks
 
You never seen lurch on the adams family?

A mere basketball player.

Yes, we have rare freaks of nature, too.

But you are not thinking with the Biblical context.

Its not consistently produced like then when one kind of male has reproduction with a human woman.
And, why call the males "Sons of God?

In Job 38 the Lord was speaking to Job about the original creation and formation of the planet earth.
Look who was there to witness to its unfolding!

There were angels!
Matter of fact, two races of angels!
Regular angels, and light bearing (like Lucifer was).



Who determined its measurements?
Surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
To what were its foundations fastened?
Or who laid its cornerstone,
When the morning stars sang together,
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?


Job 38:5-7​

And?

If it were only humans involved in Genesis 6?

The giants would have not been some new thing to appear on the scene. For they should have always been living, not just in those days.


“The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to
the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.” Gen 6:4


After the eight survivors got off the Ark they passed down the history of what they had witnessed to before the Flood.
Later to become turned into myths concerning "Heroes of Renown." Its where we get the myths about the Likes of Hercules, etc.



Nope! ... Lurch should have stuck to acting, or basketball...

(he would have surely been a monster player!)


grace and peace .................................
 

Genesis 6:1-6

Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters
were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful;
and they took for themselves women of all whom they chose.

And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his
days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” There were giants on the earth in those days,
and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore
children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent
of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. "


If the Sons of God were angels?

Why? ..Why were they able to procreate?


......................
Why are YOU sure that they Couldn't??

Personal opinion: That's the REASON for the flood - to purify the Adamic strain, and to remove a growing population of non-Adamics, who wouldn't be subject to the effects of Jesus' SIN OFFERING.
 
A mere basketball player.

Yes, we have rare freaks of nature, too.

But you are not thinking with the Biblical context.

Its not consistently produced like then when one kind of male has reproduction with a human woman.
And, why call the males "Sons of God?

In Job 38 the Lord was speaking to Job about the original creation and formation of the planet earth.
Look who was there to witness to its unfolding!

There were angels!
Matter of fact, two races of angels!
Regular angels, and light bearing (like Lucifer was).



Who determined its measurements?
Surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
To what were its foundations fastened?
Or who laid its cornerstone,
When the morning stars sang together,
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?


Job 38:5-7​

And?

If it were only humans involved in Genesis 6?

The giants would have not been some new thing to appear on the scene. For they should have always been living, not just in those days.


“The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to
the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.” Gen 6:4


After the eight survivors got off the Ark they passed down the history of what they had witnessed to before the Flood.
Later to become turned into myths concerning "Heroes of Renown." Its where we get the myths about the Likes of Hercules, etc.



Nope! ... Lurch should have stuck to acting, or basketball...

(he would have surely been a monster player!)


grace and peace .................................
Where does it say the angels married women or that the angels have offspring children???
 
Why are YOU sure that they Couldn't??

Personal opinion: That's the REASON for the flood - to purify the Adamic strain, and to remove a growing population of non-Adamics, who wouldn't be subject to the effects of Jesus' SIN OFFERING.
The flood was caused by sin
 
Where does it say the angels married women or that the angels have offspring children???
Genesis 6 begins like this.....

It depends on what translation one reads as to what gets glossed over.
This is the New King James version because it stays (in this case) truer
to what the Hebrew says.....

And, like what typical translations choose the term "wives" when it does not appear in the Hebrew,
I used the Young's Literal translation to keep things straight with more accuracy.
Genesis 6:1-4​
Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters
were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful;
and they take to themselves women of all whom they have chosen.. (no marriage going on)
And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh;
yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” There were giants on the earth
in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men
and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.


In the Hebrew there was no marriage going on. These angels simply took to themselves women whom they
inspected and wanted, in a passionate way. The Hebrew indicates "to take passionately."

grace and peace .................
 
But apparently a rather UNIQUE, and tremendously SERIOUS sin, that couldn't wait until Calvary, like all OTHER SIN.
Gen 6:
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord. (Lk 1:30)
Thanks
 
Genesis 6 begins like this.....

It depends on what translation one reads as to what gets glossed over.
This is the New King James version because it stays (in this case) truer
to what the Hebrew says.....

And, like what typical translations choose the term "wives" when it does not appear in the Hebrew,
I used the Young's Literal translation to keep things straight with more accuracy.
Genesis 6:1-4​
Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters
were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful;
and they take to themselves women of all whom they have chosen.. (no marriage going on)
And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh;
yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” There were giants on the earth
in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men
and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.


In the Hebrew there was no marriage going on. These angels simply took to themselves women whom they
inspected and wanted, in a passionate way. The Hebrew indicates "to take passionately."

grace and peace .................
Does not say angel took wives or women or had children
Thanks
 
Gen 6:
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Pretty much like it's ALWAYS BEEN, and still is. (Rom 3:10)
8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord. (Lk 1:30)
So God re-started the Human race with purely Adamic humans.
 
Does not say angel took wives or women or had children
Thanks

It simply says that certain angels passionately took to themselves the women they chose....

Using the word 'marriage' is projecting a civilized tone on what was totally uncivilized.
It puts us in a wrong frame of mind to see the situation unfolding as it was happening.

It causes one to gloss over and miss what the true narrative would be saying....

Here is what the Young's Literal Translation makes known.


And it cometh to pass that mankind have begun to multiply on the face of the
ground, and daughters have been born to them,

and sons of God see the daughters of men that they [are] fair, and they
take to themselves women of all whom they have chosen.
And Jehovah saith, `My Spirit doth not strive in man -- to the age; in their
erring they [are] flesh:' and his days have been an hundred and twenty years.
The fallen ones were in the earth in those days, and even afterwards when sons
of God come in unto daughters of men, and they have borne to them -- they [are]
the heroes, who, from of old, [are] the men of name."
..........
 
Does not say angel took wives or women or had children
Thanks

Do you know what words were used to describe angels in the OT?

Read the Book of Job 1:6-7.

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord,
and Satan also came among them. And the Lord said to Satan, “From where do you come?”

:rolleyes: Satan came along with the sons of Seth???????? And, Satan was with them??????
 
Paul’s warning

Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
 
Lk 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Angels are pure spirits nobodies!
Literally no body
Thanks
 
Gen 10:8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. (Giant) mighty man but had no angelic parent!

Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
 
Paul’s warning

Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

You are grasping for straws...........

There is no genealogy mentioned. There is no contention of the law.

Why do you want to put a stop to a thread wishing to clarify the meaning of a passage?

Why do you want to suppress truth from being expounded on?
 
Lk 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Angels are pure spirits nobodies!
Literally no body
Thanks
He was not talking about an angel.

Thomas thought he was seeing a ghost. That was how the word 'spirit' was used.

Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see;
a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”



Read Genesis 18! Abraham fed angels food, and they did eat!

What do you understand so far? Nothing! Yet you wish to break up this thread RUDELY?

What are you afraid of?????????? Its a forum for debate and discussion.
 
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