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Gen 6:1-5 The Historical Views

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Gen 6:1-5 When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to the, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. Then the Lord said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years." The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.

The thread is open to defense and rebuttals to the various views, but these need to be supported biblically and carefully.

The Fallen Angel View
  • The "sons of God" are fallen angels who took human wives, producing the Nephilim (giant hybrid offspring).
The Sethite (godly line) View
  • The "sons of God" are descendants of Seth; the "daughters of men" are descendants of Cain. (Their intermarriage led to moral corruption,)
The Royal or Tyrant Kings View
  • The "sons of God" were ancient rulers or judges who took any women they wanted (polygamous or oppressive kings)
The Mythological/Polemical View
  • 1-4 may demythologize pagan stories of divine-human unions, rejecting the idea of demigods by presenting them as part of human sin and divine judgment.
Hybrid or Composite Modern Views
  • "Sons of God" as angelic powers working through human rulers (spiritual and political corruption).
  • Nephilim as a class of violent warriors, not literal hybrids.
  • Sees Gen 6 as describing spiritual corruption of human society under demonic influence.
 

The Sethite View Explained​

The Sethite View (or "godly line" interpretation) arose early in Jewish and Christian thought (e.g., Julius Africanus, Augustine, Luther, Calvin) and became the standard view in much of the Reformed tradition. It argues that:
  • the "sons of God" are the descendants of Seth, the line that "called on the name of the LORD" (Gen 4:26).
  • the "daughters of men" are the descendants of Cain, whose line culminates in violent, godless figures like Lamech (Gen 4:19-24).
  • the "marrying" of these two lines blurred the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, leading to universal corruption and the flood.
So, on this view, the narrative is not about angels mating with humans but about the collapse of moral and covenantal boundaries between those belonging to Yahweh and those who reject him—a theme that runs throughout the Old Testament.

Exegetical Arguments for the Sethite View​

I would argue that the Sethite View preserves the covenantal and moral focus of Genesis. The flood comes not because of some mythic monsters but because humanity's covenantal identity was collapsing. The godly line lost its distinction, the image-bearers abandoned their calling, and chaos was reasserting itself over creation.

Literary Context and Genealogical Continuity​

Genesis 4–6 presents two genealogies: Cain's line (Gen 4:17–24) characterized by violence, polygamy, and self-exaltation, and Seth's line (Gen 4:25–5:32) characterized by worship and faith (e.g., Enoch "walked with God").

The immediate literary context suggests that these two lines are meant to be contrasted, climaxing in their intermingling in 6:1–5. The toledot structure of Genesis—the section divisions marked by "these are the generations of ..."—reinforces this continuity between chapters 4–5 and 6:1–5. The narrator traces the spread of corruption from Cain's line into Seth's, explaining how the earth becomes filled with violence and wickedness (6:11–12).

This view maintains the integrity of Genesis as a unified primeval history focused on human rebellion and divine response, not on angelic intrusion.

The Idiomatic Range of "Sons of God"​

While bene-ha’elohim can indeed refer to divine beings (cf. Job 1:6; 2:1; Ps 29:1; 89:6), it can also function covenantally, referring to those in special relationship with God. For example:
  • Deut 14:1 – "You are the sons of the LORD your God."
  • Exod 4:22 – "Israel is my firstborn son."
  • Hos 1:10 – "You are sons of the living God."
So, the term can describe a class of people defined by divine election or relationship, not just celestial beings. In Genesis 6, the covenantal contrast between two lines—those who call on the LORD vs. those who do not—fits naturally with this idiom.

Thematic Parallel: Intermarriage Leading to Corruption​

The pattern of intermarriage between the righteous and the wicked leading to apostasy is repeated throughout the OT:
  • Gen 24:3; 26:34-35; 28:1-2 – Abraham and Isaac warn against intermarrying with Canaanites.
  • Exod 34:16; Deut 7:3-4 – Israel forbidden to intermarry with pagan nations "for they will turn away your sons from following me."
Genesis 6:1-5 prefigures this same covenantal danger. It portrays the first instance of the faithful line compromising through mixed allegiance, resulting in universal moral decay—a precursor to Israel's own later covenantal failures.

Structural and Theological Coherence​

Genesis 6:5 summarizes the moral state of the world:

"The LORD saw that the wickedness of humankind had become great on the earth. Every inclination of the thoughts of their minds was only evil all the time."
The entire focus remains on human depravity (raʿat ha’adam), not angelic transgression. To read "sons of God" as angels introduces an abrupt ontological shift that fragments the narrative. The Sethite view maintains a consistent anthropological focus: the corruption of humanity as the rationale for the flood.

Theological Coherence via Analogia Fidei

The analogia fidei principle—that scripture interprets scripture, and no interpretation may contradict the whole counsel of God—further supports this view:
  • Jesus identifies the days of Noah as characterized by ordinary human activity (“eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage,” Matt 24:38), not by the intrusion of angels or demigods.
  • Angels, being asexual spirits, “neither marry nor are given in marriage” (Matt 22:30). Thus, an angelic reading introduces a biological absurdity inconsistent with biblical angelology.
  • The broader canonical theme from Genesis to Revelation consistently locates the problem of sin within human rebellion, not hybrid offspring.
Therefore, the Sethite view aligns both anthropologically (sin is human) and theologically (judgment is covenantal) with the Bible's overarching story.

The Nephilim Problem​

The mention of the Nephilim (v. 4) does not require an angelic interpretation. The Hebrew term nephilim (נְפִילִים) likely derives from npl ("to fall") and means "fallen ones" (or "violent ones"). The Septuagint translates it as gigantes (γίγαντες)—not "giants" in the modern sense, but mighty men, warriors, or tyrants.

Thus, the text is saying that human corruption produced a class of powerful, violent men—"men of renown" (v. 4). The moral emphasis remains human, not hybrid.
 
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I would go so far as to say that the plain reading of the text nowhere implies that "sons of God" are fallen angels. Or that it is fallen angels who mix with humans. Or that a hybrid is produced. Or that that hybrid is the Nephilim. None of those things is stated, inferred, or implied in the text.

I read it again today, transferring it to the page from my keyboard. It is amazing how that tends to remove the preconceived ideas or the things one has heard about it, and just the text is there. At least it did for me. I was kind of shocked. Not because I believe it is talking about fallen angels, I don't. But because I knew there is that interpretation out there, my mind was telling me, "I can see why a person would jump to that conclusion and the same with the Nephilim. Without that influence, there is absolutely no reason to do so in the text itself. And the meaning of the text is clear.
 
This is the way i see things. If you disagree...that's OK as salvation isn't dependent on my beliefs.
Gen 6:1-5 When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to the, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. Then the Lord said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years." The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.

The thread is open to defense and rebuttals to the various views, but these need to be supported biblically and carefully.

The Fallen Angel View
  • The "sons of God" are fallen angels who took human wives, producing the Nephilim (giant hybrid offspring).
The angels are presented as the sons of God in the book of Job.
Moses summarized Enoch 6 in Gen 6. Jude even quoted from the book of Enoch.

The Sethite (godly line) View
  • The "sons of God" are descendants of Seth; the "daughters of men" are descendants of Cain. (Their intermarriage led to moral corruption,)
Then why not say that? Where does the bible say the sons of God are Seths linage and. the daughters of men are Cains people?
How does Seths people and Cains people procreate and produce Nephillim giants? Explain the genetics.
The Royal or Tyrant Kings View
  • The "sons of God" were ancient rulers or judges who took any women they wanted (polygamous or oppressive kings)
Same as above....where does the bible say that? How did they produce the Nephillim giants?
The Mythological/Polemical View
  • 1-4 may demythologize pagan stories of divine-human unions, rejecting the idea of demigods by presenting them as part of human sin and divine judgment.
The bible isn't a book of myths.
Hybrid or Composite Modern Views
  • "Sons of God" as angelic powers working through human rulers (spiritual and political corruption).
Proxy.
  • Nephilim as a class of violent warriors, not literal hybrids.
Does that mean the Giants mentioned elsewhere in the bible were just violent warriors?
Deut 3:11 (For only Og the king of Bashan was left of the remnant of the Rephaim. Behold, his bed was a bed of iron. Is it not in Rabbah of the Ammonites? Nine cubits was its length, and four cubits its breadth, according to the common cubit.)

Did the class of violent warriors share the big bed?

  • Sees Gen 6 as describing spiritual corruption of human society under demonic influence.
I would say fallen angel influence...the watchers...that had offspring with human women. The demons are the spirits of dead hybred Nephillim.
 
I would go so far as to say that the plain reading of the text nowhere implies that "sons of God" are fallen angels. Or that it is fallen angels who mix with humans. Or that a hybrid is produced. Or that that hybrid is the Nephilim. None of those things is stated, inferred, or implied in the text.
Then please exlain the origination of the nephillim...gisnts...Rephaim...mentioned in the bible.

Considering Job calls angels the sons of God...and we see the same term mentioned again in Gen 6...and Enoch 6... one can easily argue that the implies that "sons of God" are fallen angels.
I read it again today, transferring it to the page from my keyboard. It is amazing how that tends to remove the preconceived ideas or the things one has heard about it, and just the text is there. At least it did for me.
Arn't you the peron who relies on the full council of God? The bible interprets itself?
I was kind of shocked. Not because I believe it is talking about fallen angels, I don't. But because I knew there is that interpretation out there, my mind was telling me, "I can see why a person would jump to that conclusion and the same with the Nephilim. Without that influence, there is absolutely no reason to do so in the text itself. And the meaning of the text is clear.
Where did Moses get it from? I would suggest Enoch 6.
Where did Jude get his quote from? That answer is the book of Enoch. I wouldn't throw the 👶 out with the 🛁
 

The Sethite View Explained​

The Sethite View (or "godly line" interpretation) arose early in Jewish and Christian thought (e.g., Julius Africanus, Augustine, Luther, Calvin) and became the standard view in much of the Reformed tradition. It argues that:
  • the "sons of God" are the descendants of Seth, the line that "called on the name of the LORD" (Gen 4:26).
  • the "daughters of men" are the descendants of Cain, whose line culminates in violent, godless figures like Lamech (Gen 4:19-24).
  • the "marrying" of these two lines blurred the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, leading to universal corruption and the flood.
So, on this view, the narrative is not about angels mating with humans but about the collapse of moral and covenantal boundaries between those belonging to Yahweh and those who reject him—a theme that runs throughout the Old Testament.

Exegetical Arguments for the Sethite View​

I would argue that the Sethite View preserves the covenantal and moral focus of Genesis. The flood comes not because of some mythic monsters but because humanity's covenantal identity was collapsing. The godly line lost its distinction, the image-bearers abandoned their calling, and chaos was reasserting itself over creation.

Literary Context and Genealogical Continuity​

Genesis 4–6 presents two genealogies: Cain's line (Gen 4:17–24) characterized by violence, polygamy, and self-exaltation, and Seth's line (Gen 4:25–5:32) characterized by worship and faith (e.g., Enoch "walked with God").

The immediate literary context suggests that these two lines are meant to be contrasted, climaxing in their intermingling in 6:1–5. The toledot structure of Genesis—the section divisions marked by "these are the generations of ..."—reinforces this continuity between chapters 4–5 and 6:1–5. The narrator traces the spread of corruption from Cain's line into Seth's, explaining how the earth becomes filled with violence and wickedness (6:11–12).

This view maintains the integrity of Genesis as a unified primeval history focused on human rebellion and divine response, not on angelic intrusion.

The Idiomatic Range of "Sons of God"​

While bene-ha’elohim can indeed refer to divine beings (cf. Job 1:6; 2:1; Ps 29:1; 89:6), it can also function covenantally, referring to those in special relationship with God. For example:
  • Deut 14:1 – "You are the sons of the LORD your God."
  • Exod 4:22 – "Israel is my firstborn son."
  • Hos 1:10 – "You are sons of the living God."
So, the term can describe a class of people defined by divine election or relationship, not just celestial beings. In Genesis 6, the covenantal contrast between two lines—those who call on the LORD vs. those who do not—fits naturally with this idiom.

Thematic Parallel: Intermarriage Leading to Corruption​

The pattern of intermarriage between the righteous and the wicked leading to apostasy is repeated throughout the OT:
  • Gen 24:3; 26:34-35; 28:1-2 – Abraham and Isaac warn against intermarrying with Canaanites.
  • Exod 34:16; Deut 7:3-4 – Israel forbidden to intermarry with pagan nations "for they will turn away your sons from following me."
Genesis 6:1-5 prefigures this same covenantal danger. It portrays the first instance of the faithful line compromising through mixed allegiance, resulting in universal moral decay—a precursor to Israel's own later covenantal failures.

Structural and Theological Coherence​

Genesis 6:5 summarizes the moral state of the world:
"The LORD saw that the wickedness of humankind had become great on the earth. Every inclination of the thoughts of their minds was only evil all the time."​
The entire focus remains on human depravity (raʿat ha’adam), not angelic transgression. To read "sons of God" as angels introduces an abrupt ontological shift that fragments the narrative. The Sethite view maintains a consistent anthropological focus: the corruption of humanity as the rationale for the flood.

Theological Coherence via Analogia Fidei

The analogia fidei principle—that scripture interprets scripture, and no interpretation may contradict the whole counsel of God—further supports this view:
  • Jesus identifies the days of Noah as characterized by ordinary human activity (“eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage,” Matt 24:38), not by the intrusion of angels or demigods.
  • Angels, being asexual spirits, “neither marry nor are given in marriage” (Matt 22:30). Thus, an angelic reading introduces a biological absurdity inconsistent with biblical angelology.
  • The broader canonical theme from Genesis to Revelation consistently locates the problem of sin within human rebellion, not hybrid offspring.
Therefore, the Sethite view aligns both anthropologically (sin is human) and theologically (judgment is covenantal) with the Bible's overarching story.

The Nephilim Problem​

The mention of the Nephilim (v. 4) does not require an angelic interpretation. The Hebrew term nephilim (נְפִילִים) likely derives from npl ("to fall") and means "fallen ones" (or "violent ones"). The Septuagint translates it as gigantes (γίγαντες)—not "giants" in the modern sense, but mighty men, warriors, or tyrants.

Thus, the text is saying that human corruption produced a class of powerful, violent men—"men of renown" (v. 4). The moral emphasis remains human, not hybrid.
Thank you for that insight. But, like I asked @Arial...where did the giants in the bible come from?
In my post to Arial I showed why the sons of men were not of Seths linage.
In my post i also mentioned how Moses summarized Enoch 6 .....and that Jude also quoted fro the book of Enoch.

AsI also said, if you disagree....that's OK. The angelic realm is much more than a bunch of angels floating around on clouds playing harps.
 
Then please exlain the origination of the nephillim...gisnts...Rephaim...mentioned in the bible.
I can't tell you anhymore than what the Bible tells us. And it says The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and the bore chldren to them. These were the mighty men who were of old the men of renown.

They were there before the "sons of God" came in to "the daughtes of man", annd they were also there afterward. It does not even say that they are the children of the "sons of God" and the daughters of man. Even if one says those sons of God are fallen angels. And it does not say that the sons of God are fallen angels either. Fallen angels would not be called sons of God.

Seth on the other hand, being the bearer of the Seed, the righteous line, is a son of God.

And the passage does not say that the Nephilim were giants, it says they were mighty men of renown. Warriors and kings would fit that description.

Here is a link about the Rephaim. I am not in a frame of mind to spell it out for you.Who were the Rephaim? | GotQuestions.org

I am going to have to deal with the rest of your post tomorrow. Right now is not the time.
 

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward
The Nephilim were on the earth in those days,...the days prior to the flood... and also afterward,....and after the flood.
Here is a link about the Rephaim. I am not in a frame of mind to spell it out for you.Who were the Rephaim? | GotQuestions.org
The article starts out with....There are several passages in the Old Testament that speak of the Rephaim (or Rephaites), and the context describes them as giants.

Do I need to present the huge bed verse again...that spells out the Rephaim?
 
Where did the giants in the bible come from?

What giants?


Does that mean the giants mentioned elsewhere in the Bible were just violent warriors?

For only Og the king of Bashan was left of the remnant of the Rephaim. Behold, his bed was a bed of iron. Is it not in Rabbah of the Ammonites? Nine cubits was its length, and four cubits its breadth, according to the common cubit (Deut 3:11).

Did the class of violent warriors share the big bed?

Just a quick side note regarding giants, Og, and Goliath.

1. For good reasons (including textual clues), biblical scholars understand that this was not a "bed" but rather a "sarcophagus"—probably a stone sarcophagus reinforced with iron, as consistent with the wider Near Eastern archaeological record for royal or elite contexts.

2. Just because the sarcophagus was over 13 feet in length, that doesn't mean the body it contained was that long. Ergo, we don't know how tall Og was.

3. Goliath was six feet and nine inches tall, which doesn't really line up with the picture we have for a "giant." He was 15 inches taller than the typical ancient Near Eastern man back then—the average height was less than 5' 6" tall—but not nearly the ten-foot tall figure as we usually suppose.

4. It is physically impossible for Goliath to have been nearly ten feet tall (due to the square-cube law).
 
What giants?




Just a quick side note regarding giants, Og, and Goliath.

1. For good reasons (including textual clues), biblical scholars understand that this was not a "bed" but rather a "sarcophagus"—probably a stone sarcophagus reinforced with iron, as consistent with the wider Near Eastern archaeological record for royal or elite contexts.

2. Just because the sarcophagus was over 13 feet in length, that doesn't mean the body it contained was that long. Ergo, we don't know how tall Og was.

3. Goliath was six feet and nine inches tall, which doesn't really line up with the picture we have for a "giant." He was 15 inches taller than the typical ancient Near Eastern man back then—the average height was less than 5' 6" tall—but not nearly the ten-foot tall figure as we usually suppose.

4. It is physically impossible for Goliath to have been nearly ten feet tall (due to the square-cube law).
1 Sam 17:4. And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.
A cubit is approx 18"....6 X18= 108".
108/12 = 9 feet tall.....plus a span. Your heigth of ....
Goliath was six feet and nine inches tall...according to my bible is in error.

Concerning the word 6210. eres....bed....it means just that. A bed. You can check out the word here.
 
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