Disturbing A.I. chats

[CrowCross]

But not outside of God's control or purposes.

I agree. The strange part is Satan and the other fallen angels think they can win.

AI will have a lot to do with Rev 13. This super intelligent Alien Intelligence computer system will monitor you and the mark. More than likely tied into Musks Starlink Satellites.

 

[makesends]

I've asked before....can an angel screw a nut onto a bolt?

I would think that answer is...yes.

Can the angel change the threads to "left-hand"? Can the angel change the atomic or molecular make-up of the metal? Can the angel shift the orbits of the particles making up the components of the atoms?

So, can the devil/demon change the electrical charge of the logical 1's and 0's of a binary electrical system, in coherent fashion?

One thing for sure, they can't do it except by God's purposes, regardless of the angel's / demon's agenda.

 

[CrowCross]

Can the angel change the threads to "left-hand"? Can the angel change the atomic or molecular make-up of the metal? Can the angel shift the orbits of the particles making up the components of the atoms?

So, can the devil/demon change the electrical charge of the logical 1's and 0's of a binary electrical system, in coherent fashion?

One thing for sure, they can't do it except by God's purposes, regardless of the angel's / demon's agenda.

You still didn't answer the question.....can an angel screw a nut onto a bolt?

 

[makesends]

I agree. The strange part is Satan and the other fallen angels think they can win.

I don't know if they actively believe that, but just find no alternative more pleasing to them than to pursue that end. I bet they are frustrated, but they are slaves to sin, and MUST rebel against God.

AI will have a lot to do with Rev 13. This super intelligent Alien Intelligence computer system will monitor you and the mark. More than likely tied into Musks Starlink Satellites.

That's a lot more than I can prove. It makes for an interesting speculation, though.

 

[makesends]

You still didn't answer the question.....can an angel screw a nut onto a bolt?

I did. He can only do so by God's purposes. He can, if it suits God that he do so (read, "if God has a reason for him to do so"). I will not answer that question with a mere yes or no. Either answer would be misleading.

 

[Tambora]

I've asked before....can an angel screw a nut onto a bolt?

I would think that answer is...yes.

I would think that if angels can have hands to handle the food they ate with Abraham, then those hands could also twist a nut onto a bolt.

 

[Tambora]

I know. But that lack of restriction is without cause or precedent. In other words, you permit what is nowhere found in scripture - both in word and precedent.

Nah.
I would think that if Satan can manipulate fire from the sky and the wind, I don't think a hunk of wires and metal would be a problem for him.

I know. Nothing I've posted should be construed to say otherwise. So relax , and answer my question. Hypothetically speaking..... Supposing AI is the beast of Revelation.....


What comes after the arrival of the beast?

I'm still stuck on what the process will be when the one beast somehow gives life to the image of the other beast so it can speak.

Rev 13
(15) And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

 

[prism]

AI is a house built on sand (silicon)...

Matthew 7:26 KJV
And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

 

[Josheb]

Test the spirits.

Let me ask you again....can an angel screw a nut onto a bolt?

Have you got scripture to support AI chats "can be attributed only to the alien programmers" or not?

 

[Josheb]

Nah. I would think that if Satan can manipulate fire from the sky and the wind, I don't think a hunk of wires and metal would be a problem for him.

Go back and re-read that text. It is the beast that does that, not the Satan or the devil.

I'm still stuck on what the process will be when the one beast somehow gives life to the image of the other beast so it can speak.

Rev 13
(15) And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Great. While you are stuck, can you tell me what comes next, after the beast has arrived? My Bible states a mark is given and that mark is the number of the name ("Artificial Intelligence"? ) and "that no one may buy or sell" unless they have the mark of this AI beast. Is that what you understand the text to state?

 

[Josheb]

I did. He can only do so by God's purposes. He can, if it suits God that he do so (read, "if God has a reason for him to do so"). I will not answer that question with a mere yes or no. Either answer would be misleading.

 

[CrowCross]

I did. He can only do so by God's purposes. He can, if it suits God that he do so (read, "if God has a reason for him to do so"). I will not answer that question with a mere yes or no. Either answer would be misleading.

I was asking it in the sense of technology. That is do the, lets say, fallen angels have technology? Do they know how to build a quantum D-wave computer?
Prior to the flood I understand they gave man the knowledge of creative arts, valuable knowledge related to science and technology, agriculture, cosmetics, metallurgy, medicine, astrology, astronomy....

Tambora asked .....Could demonic forces be manipulating A.I.s to do their biding?​

I'm still going with yes.

 

[CrowCross]

I would think that if angels can have hands to handle the food they ate with Abraham, then those hands could also twist a nut onto a bolt.

I would agree. If the "fallen" angels can screw a nut onto a bolt? ....could they build aircraft?

 

[makesends]

I was asking it in the sense of technology. That is do the, lets say, fallen angels have technology? Do they know how to build a quantum D-wave computer?
Prior to the flood I understand they gave man the knowledge of creative arts, valuable knowledge related to science and technology, agriculture, cosmetics, metallurgy, medicine, astrology, astronomy....

Where does the notion come from, that fallen angels prior to the flood, "gave man the knowledge of creative arts, valuable knowledge related to science and technology, agriculture, cosmetics, metallurgy, medicine, astrology, astronomy...."?

 

[Tambora]

Go back and re-read that text. It is the beast that does that, not the Satan or the devil.

You go back and read the text.
It is the dragon that gives power to the beast.

Great. While you are stuck, can you tell me what comes next, after the beast has arrived? My Bible states a mark is given and that mark is the number of the name ("Artificial Intelligence"? ) and "that no one may buy or sell" unless they have the mark of this AI beast. Is that what you understand the text to state?

Since this thread is about how the image of the beast gets life to speak from the other beast, tell us your thoughts on how that takes place.

 

[Josheb]

You go back and read the text.

I did.

It is the dragon that gives power to the beast.

Yes, but it is the beast that makes fire come down from heaven, not the devil. The earlier posts were wrong to attribute the fire to the devil.

Since this thread is about how the image of the beast gets life to speak from the other beast, tell us your thoughts on how that takes place.

After my questions are answer I will do so but it is my hope that, having answered those questions, a mutual, collaborative consensus with scripture and reason will exist. For now, it's worth noting that there's recurring avoidance of the question and factual errors pertaining to the attributions of the devil. I have tried to move the conversation along by answering my own question by observing scripture states My Bible a mark is given, and that mark is the number of the name of AI and "that no one may buy or sell" unless they have the mark of this supposed AI beast.


Is that what you understand the text to state?


Avoidance and error never lead to well-reasoned discussion, consensus with scripture, logical conclusions, or sound doctrine and practice. I, therefore, ask once again.....


Do you understand the text of Revelation 13 to state the AI beast will cause everyone to be given a mark that somehow regulates some kind of commerce?


.

 

[Tambora]

I would agree. If the "fallen" angels can screw a nut onto a bolt? ....could they build aircraft?

In this particular case it would not be the demonic forces that build the image, it would be the earthlings.

Rev 13​

(14) And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.​

(15) And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.​

So, man builds the image and a beast (that receives power from the dragon) gives it life.
"Life" being the same word used for "spirit", so one could possibly say a beast gives the image a spirit.
The question would be what sort of spirit/life?

 

[CrowCross]

Where does the notion come from, that fallen angels prior to the flood, "gave man the knowledge of creative arts, valuable knowledge related to science and technology, agriculture, cosmetics, metallurgy, medicine, astrology, astronomy...."?

You can start with Gen 6.

When one realizes the "sons of God" were fallen angels you can move on. If you can't go there, then there is no reason to discuss the issue...as we must open the book of Enoch.

 

[Eleanor]

I did. He can only do so by God's purposes. He can, if it suits God that he do so (read, "if God has a reason for him to do so"). I will not answer that question with a mere yes or no. Either answer would be misleading.

Have you stopped beating your wife? Yes or no?

 

[Eleanor]

So. . .you agree?