Discovering the Year of the Exodus with Scripture Only

[Jarhead4Jesus]

Sorry but I can't imagine trying to take a route through the Rev to figure out creation and/or 2 P 3. Regardless of the 1000 year allusion, which is prob just an effective phrase for his point, not a 'diagram' statement.

Grammatically, what is truly significant is that 'ekpalai' (from ancient time) and 'sunestosa' (to form, in the pottery sense) are most likely set in contrast. The universe is out there, but the earth's system (inc. its star) are more recent. I notice a couple logical things about this:
1, that our local sun does not appear until the 4th day, just after we learn that vegetation has been embedded in the land. This has the same necessary logic as the 2 tables of 3 days: the earth goes from unformed to formed and from unfilled to filled in each of the 3 day sets (1 and 4, 2 and 5, 3 and 6). This can also suggest how light was 'there' before our local sun.
2, that our local system may be a special creation that was not here before Gen 1, while the distant universe was. There could have been a big bang as far as the distant universe is concerned. But not our local system. Physical support for this is the number of indicators of recentness (for ex., the salinity of the oceans), the 'hot' radiation readings of Jupiter taken in the 70s by Viking, the life span of Saturn's ice and Pluto's ice mountains.

Looks like we're just gonna have to disagree on some things.

Genesis 1:16 ...he made the stars also.
Genesis 1:31 And God saw everything that he had made...
Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
Isaiah 34:4 And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as a leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
Revelation 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

It seems that God gave the stars and the rest of the universe purpose, but He didn't give it much room in His book.

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

The mathematics of this is something like the automotive world using larger tires to gain more mpg. It's not the number of days in a year. It is the fact that orbit got slowed in a collision in the cataclysm.

He believes the orbit was faster before, so counts were high back then. Afterwards, there are lower counts. But those lives before the cataclysm may still have been 80 of our current years in length.

Have you done any study of the Tetrad (4 total lunar eclipses in a row)? Here is a site that catalogs 6.000 years of Tetrads. From the research that I've done on the matter, it appears that they are being used as a mechanism for keeping time of events. Looks like there will be a total of 210 Tetrads by the end of the 1000 year reign of Christ.

eclipsewise.com/lunar/LEcatalog/LEtetradcat1.html
eclipsewise.com/lunar/LEcatalog/LEtetradcat2.html

 

[EarlyActs]

Have you done any study of the Tetrad (4 total lunar eclipses in a row)? Here is a site that catalogs 6.000 years of Tetrads. From the research that I've done on the matter, it appears that they are being used as a mechanism for keeping time of events. Looks like there will be a total of 210 Tetrads by the end of the 1000 year reign of Christ.

eclipsewise.com/lunar/LEcatalog/LEtetradcat1.html
eclipsewise.com/lunar/LEcatalog/LEtetradcat2.html

The last time I tried to read the Rev "literally" for inventory, I was half way through the 21 judgments and the figure was -275% (starting with 100% of both population and material). So I stopped. I do not form any doctrines from the Rev that are not already clearly stated in normal language NT letters. So I don't go looking for a 1000 year reign, because the expression itself simply means that it is very long by human standards.

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

The revelation, like the creation account, covers the big picture and then zooms in to tell parts of the story again with more specificity.

God preserves His word for every generation, so it is made to be understood by those that seek the truth. Also, Proverbs 3:5-8.

 

[eclipseEventSigns]

The document in the original post gives a timeline that is a common understanding. However, there is some misunderstandings of some key details (which are confusing for sure). This playlist gives an alternate method, still using the correct Hebrew text in the Masoretic.


When was the Exodus?

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

I've seen those videos, along with many, many others. They all have a spin on something that was missed, or that they've found an error in the text, and they all have a different BC date.

The attached file contains a simple, scriptural walk from Creation to the Exodus, without the need for a protractor or a slide-rule.

 

[eclipseEventSigns]

I've seen those videos, along with many, many others. They all have a spin on something that was missed, or that they've found an error in the text, and they all have a different BC date.

The attached file contains a simple, scriptural walk from Creation to the Exodus, without the need for a protractor or a slide-rule.

I doubt you have seen these videos. I only released them recently. And they are the ACCURATE way to understand the actual date of the Exodus. Proven Scripturally.

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

According to my YouTube subscription, those videos were released 6 months ago.

If there's something inaccurate in the table on the first page of the attached file. Please, let me know.

 

[eclipseEventSigns]

According to my YouTube subscription, those videos were released 6 months ago.

If there's something inaccurate in the table on the first page of the attached file. Please, let me know.

Does your system have confirmation with all the various cycles? My research shows confirmation with the 7 year Sabbatical cycle, the 49 year Jubilee cycle, the lunar cycle. It shows that the day order of Nisan, the first month was the exact same for the Creation Year, the year of the Exodus and the year of crucifixion - unique research which no one has ever discovered before. This makes all other research incorrect.

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

Does your system have confirmation with all the various cycles? My research shows confirmation with the 7 year Sabbatical cycle, the 49 year Jubilee cycle, the lunar cycle. It shows that the day order of Nisan, the first month was the exact same for the Creation Year, the year of the Exodus and the year of crucifixion - unique research which no one has ever discovered before. This makes all other research incorrect.

The 'Discovering the Appointed Time of Judgement' article is posted on this site. The conclusion page contains my email address. If you would like an excel version of the '7049 Biblical Timeline' research and the conclusions list, send me an email. Unfortunately, it seems that they won't allow excel files to be uploaded here.

Concerning, 'This makes all other research incorrect.'
James 4:6
Psalm 138:6
Proverbs 16:18

BTW, the explanation given in the Part 1 video, concerning the timing of the Abrahamic covenant seems to disagree with what Paul was explaining in Galatians 3:17 and surrounding verses. Paul was drawing a contrast between the Promise (Abrahamic covenant) and the Law, not only giving the duration of time between them. Throughout the passage in Galatians 3, Paul clearly identifies the event of the Abrahamic covenant as the 'faith event' found in Genesis 15:6, as a contrast to the Law (which was 430 years later). If Abraham already had a confirmed or ratified covenant with the LORD prior to this, then Abram's response in Genesis 15:2-3 makes no sense at all. Additionally, Genesis 15:18 is the first mention of the word 'covenant' since the Noahic covenant which was back in Genesis 9. It's also the ONLY mention of the actual borders of the covenant (from the river of Egypt to the great river Euphrates), and the list of other people groups being displaced. The Abrahamic covenant occurred in Genesis 15, not Genesis 12 or 13.

 

[eclipseEventSigns]

Concerning, 'This makes all other research incorrect.'
James 4:6
Psalm 138:6
Proverbs 16:18

Yes, unfortunately for you and your haughty attitude, there is someone else who has figured it out and will call you out on your attitude displayed all through out this thread.

 

[eclipseEventSigns]

BTW, the explanation given in the Part 1 video, concerning the timing of the Abrahamic covenant seems to disagree with what Paul was explaining in Galatians 3:17 and surrounding verses. Paul was drawing a contrast between the Promise (Abrahamic covenant) and the Law, not only giving the duration of time between them. Throughout the passage in Galatians 3, Paul clearly identifies the event of the Abrahamic covenant as the 'faith event' found in Genesis 15:6, as a contrast to the Law (which was 430 years later). If Abraham already had a confirmed or ratified covenant with the LORD prior to this, then Abram's response in Genesis 15:2-3 makes no sense at all. Additionally, Genesis 15:18 is the first mention of the word 'covenant' since the Noahic covenant which was back in Genesis 9. It's also the ONLY mention of the actual borders of the covenant (from the river of Egypt to the great river Euphrates), and the list of other people groups being displaced. The Abrahamic covenant occurred in Genesis 15, not Genesis 12 or 13.

Those statements just are not accurate at all.
[Gen 12:7 LSB] 7 Then Yahweh appeared to Abram and said, "To your seed I will give this land." So he built an altar there to Yahweh who had appeared to him.

As Abram enters the land, God promises his descendants the land. Just as Paul references in Gal 3.

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

Yes, unfortunately for you and your haughty attitude, there is someone else who has figured it out and will call you out on your attitude displayed all through out this thread.

Clearly...

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

Those statements just are not accurate at all.
[Gen 12:7 LSB] 7 Then Yahweh appeared to Abram and said, "To your seed I will give this land." So he built an altar there to Yahweh who had appeared to him.

As Abram enters the land, God promises his descendants the land. Just as Paul references in Gal 3.

Your disagreement is with Paul.

 

[eclipseEventSigns]

Your disagreement is with Paul.

Nope. Reading things in context and comprehending the correct meaning - it's the key to understanding.

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

Nope. Reading things in context and comprehending the correct meaning - it's the key to understanding.

Concerning context and comprehension:

In Galatians 3, Paul referenced the Abrahamic covenant as the 'promise', which was through 'faith' (Galatians 3:14, 22).

Paul stated it as plainly as possible, Galatians 3:6 'Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.'

Paul was referencing Genesis 15:6 'And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.'

Paul clearly indicates that the Abrahamic covenant was a faith event, not an emigration event.

 

[eclipseEventSigns]

Concerning context and comprehension:

In Galatians 3, Paul referenced the Abrahamic covenant as the 'promise', which was through 'faith' (Galatians 3:14, 22).

Paul stated it as plainly as possible, Galatians 3:6 'Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.'

Paul was referencing Genesis 15:6 'And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.'

Paul clearly indicates that the Abrahamic covenant was a faith event, not an emigration event.

You really have to examine the details very closely. What you state is not accurate.
First, closely examine exactly what Paul states in Gal 3:16
[Gal 3:16 LSB] 16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, "And to seeds," as [referring] to many, but [rather] to one, "And TO YOUR SEED," that is, Christ.

Notice it is promises (plural). And notice Paul is quoting who God promised to. What exactly were these promises? You have to examine 3:14 for that:
[Gal 3:14 LSB] 14 in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
It was concerning the Gentiles' access to the blessing of Abraham. Genesis 15 has nothing whatsoever to do with the Gentiles. It is solely about God cutting a covenant with Abraham to determine the boundaries of land for his descendants.

The initial promises were spoken by God in Gen 12.
1. make Abram a great nation
2. bless Abram
3 make Abram's name great
4. Abram will be a blessing
5. all the nations (Gentiles) will be blessed through Abram

This was promised if Abram would leave his homeland and journey to the land of Canaan. Abram believed and did according to what God said. As a result of his faith and obedience in that same year:

[Gen 12:7 LSB] 7 Then Yahweh appeared to Abram and said, "To your seed I will give this land." So he built an altar there to Yahweh who had appeared to him.

This year is the start of the 430 years that Paul counts from. This is the accurate timeline that Scripture shows and provides sync points with many events.

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

You really have to examine the details very closely. What you state is not accurate.
First, closely examine exactly what Paul states in Gal 3:16
[Gal 3:16 LSB] 16 Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, "And to seeds," as [referring] to many, but [rather] to one, "And TO YOUR SEED," that is, Christ.

Notice it is promises (plural). And notice Paul is quoting who God promised to. What exactly were these promises? You have to examine 3:14 for that:
[Gal 3:14 LSB] 14 in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
It was concerning the Gentiles' access to the blessing of Abraham. Genesis 15 has nothing whatsoever to do with the Gentiles. It is solely about God cutting a covenant with Abraham to determine the boundaries of land for his descendants.

The initial promises were spoken by God in Gen 12.
1. make Abram a great nation
2. bless Abram
3 make Abram's name great
4. Abram will be a blessing
5. all the nations (Gentiles) will be blessed through Abram

This was promised if Abram would leave his homeland and journey to the land of Canaan. Abram believed and did according to what God said. As a result of his faith and obedience in that same year:

[Gen 12:7 LSB] 7 Then Yahweh appeared to Abram and said, "To your seed I will give this land." So he built an altar there to Yahweh who had appeared to him.

This year is the start of the 430 years that Paul counts from. This is the accurate timeline that Scripture shows and provides sync points with many events.

If the Abrahamic covenant had been made in Genesis 12 or 13, then the conversation in Genesis 15:7-8 make no sense at all.

v7 'And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.'
v8 'And he said, Lord GOD, whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it?'

If the Abrahamic covenant had already taken place, then Abram's response is nonsense.

Genesis 15:17 is the explicit timing of the Abrahamic covenant: 'In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:'

You said that, 'Genesis 15 has nothing whatsoever to do with the Gentiles.'

Genesis 15:6 'And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.'
Galatians 3:6 'Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.'
Romans 4:1-3 'What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.'

Romans 10:9-10 'That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.'

Your disagreement is with Moses and Paul.

 

[eclipseEventSigns]

If the Abrahamic covenant had been made in Genesis 12 or 13, then the conversation in Genesis 15:7-8 make no sense at all.

v7 'And he said unto him, I am the LORD that brought thee out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.'
v8 'And he said, Lord GOD, whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it?'

If the Abrahamic covenant had already taken place, then Abram's response is nonsense.

Genesis 15:17 is the explicit timing of the Abrahamic covenant: 'In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:'

You said that, 'Genesis 15 has nothing whatsoever to do with the Gentiles.'

Genesis 15:6 'And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.'
Galatians 3:6 'Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.'
Romans 4:1-3 'What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.'

Romans 10:9-10 'That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.'

Your disagreement is with Moses and Paul.

I note you do not refute anything in my previous comment. The points you make do not make any sense.

 

[Jarhead4Jesus]

I note you do not refute anything in my previous comment. The points you make do not make any sense.

James 1:5-6 'If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.'