Covenant of Works

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The Old Testament passages you provided is a Jewish prophet sent by God to Covenant Israel. It doesn't apply to Gentiles, which is what you want it to say but it doesn't say. God made no covenant with Gentiles. None. The personal relation is covenant based between Abraham, his seed and the God of Abraham.

The Abrahamic, Mosaic, and New Covenant are between God and the Hebrew people. These are the three covenants God has with the Hebrew people who are also His Church and His Bride.

In the process of time God laid out three saving Covenants that build upon each other. The Abrahamic Covenant was to divide Hebrew from non-Hebrew (Gentile.)
The Mosaic Covenant is with the children of Israel and the Law being type and shadow of the Holy Spirit, the same Law/Holy Spirit He promised in the New Covenant to put in THEIR inward parts and included in that covenant. The Law of Moses to a non-spiritual people (Israel) is everything Israel was to obey when the New Covenant is initiated before the return of Christ and the Law by which Israel will live by after their Redeemer-King-Messiah sits on His throne after the nations (Gentiles) are destroyed. Who ever is left of this epic last battle will occupy the land surrounding the Jews in their Promised Land as God will cleanse all Gentiles from the Land God Promised to His people the Jews.
The New Covenant speaks of the Holy Spirit - the Law - that God will put in their inward parts to obey for the kingdom of Christ and God is within "you", and no longer on stone to obey failing from without.

No, those specific promises are only referred to in the New Covenant writings, but they are found in the Old Testament. Peter, James, John, Saul had to search the Hebrew writings in order to make sense and understand the New Covenant era that began with the Advent of the Holy Spirit of Promise on the day of the Hebrew Feast of Harvest (Pentecost.)

They are there to give God's covenant people Israel hope. God made no covenant with Gentiles and is not obligated to do anything of value for Gentiles.

There are no Gentiles in any of the Hebrew Covenants.
The Abrahamic Covenant is between God, Abraham, and Abraham's seed and Gentiles do not come from Abraham's seed.
The Mosaic Covenant with the seed of Abraham, or the children of Jacob/Israel. There are no Gentiles in this covenant as the children of Jacob, twelve sons and their offspring, make up Abraham's seed. This is one reason why God is referred to as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. There are no Gentiles in any of the Hebrew Covenants.

Always spouting the same false theology. Always twisting and misquoting.

The Abrahamic Covenant does include the Gentiles as well.
[Gen 12:2-3 LSB] 2 And I will make you a great nation, And I will bless you, And make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing; 3 And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed."

The Mosaic covenant was given as an example to ALL nations of the world of what God does to the unfaithful and unrepentant because no one is able to fulfill His perfect law.
[Deu 29:14-15, 18, 20, 22, 24-26 LSB] 14 "Now not with you alone am I cutting this covenant and this oath, 15 but both with those who stand here with us today in the presence of Yahweh our God and with those who are not with us here today-- ... 18 lest there be among you a man or woman, or family or tribe, whose heart turns away today from Yahweh our God, to go to serve the gods of those nations; lest there be among you a root bearing poisonous fruit and wormwood. ... 20 "Yahweh shall not be willing to pardon him, but rather the anger of Yahweh and His jealousy will burn against that man, and every curse which is written in this book will rest on him, and Yahweh will blot out his name from under heaven. ... 22 "And the generation to come, your sons who rise up after you and the foreigner who comes from a distant land, shall see the plagues of the land and the diseases with which Yahweh has afflicted it,... 24 "And all the nations will say, 'Why has Yahweh done thus to this land? Why this great burning anger?' 25 "Then [men] will say, 'Because they forsook the covenant of Yahweh, the God of their fathers, which He cut with them when He brought them out of the land of Egypt. 26 'And they went and served other gods and worshiped them, gods whom they have not known and whom He had not apportioned to them.

Stop the idolotry of the Jewish nation. They are God's special people - the people to demonstrate what happens when God blesses and also when God curses a nation.

 

[jeremiah1five]

No I am not. There is a rule that posters are not to misrepresent what another poster says. The Old Covenant was with the Hebrews. The New Covenant is with people of all nations and all walks of life.

This is the New Covenant in Jeremiah. It, too, is with the House of Israel, NOT GENTILES.
I have NOT misrepresented what you said. So, here is the Word of God to decide the issue:

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
In the day that I took them by the hand
To bring them out of the land of Egypt;
Which my covenant they brake,
Although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
Jer, 31:31–33.

YOU SAID: "The Old Covenant was with the Hebrews. The New Covenant is with people of all nations and all walks of life."

I SAID: ALL the covenants Old and New are with the Hebrews/children of Israel/House of Israel. As you can see there is no mention of "all nations and all walks of life."
And I am referring to the Abrahamic, Mosaic, AND NEW COVENANT.
These three Covenants is with Abraham and his seed, the children of Israel and the House of Israel alone.
God made NO COVENANT with Gentiles. None.

 

[jeremiah1five]

As a Reformer, as you put it, I know that we are commanded to put our trust in Him, and were with the very act of being created by Him, from Adam and Eve on. The fact that we fell, and fell into bondage to sin, does not change that. When you figure out what the commonwealth of Israel is----and the Bible is quite clear on that should one pursue knowledge of the things of God from the source, who is God of course, you will be able to understand what is meant by that statement in Eph. When you understand the purpose and position of Israel in redemption, then you can clear your head of the cobwebs. Not stumble on the stumbling stone as the Jews did.

Within the context of Eph 2 leading up to that statement and immediately following, it tells you quite plainly so that you should see the purpose and position of Israel in redemption. It is one story J, with many parts. And look at that sentence you refer to and what follows it and that you treat in all you say as though it was not there.




11Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called “the uncircumcision” by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands— 12remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, 16and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. 17And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. 18For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. 19So then you are no longer strangers and aliens,d but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God bye the Spirit.

As a Reformer I know that we are saved by grace through faith and that is not of ourselves but is a gift of God. Yes, Jesus had perfect faith. Perfect obedience is the natural product of perfect faith. So it is a part of His righteousness that is counted as ours. We are saved by Christ and through faith His work is applied to us. You evidently understand as little of Reformation theology as you do of covenants.

I believe all those things. What makes you think I don't? Are you losing track of the conversation? I don't see where you are making that connection. There is rule against misrepresenting a person for the sake of argument.

The commonwealth of Israel refers to being a citizen in the social order of Israel. It does not refer to covenants. It does not mean Gentiles are in the Abrahamic Covenant because the Abrahamic Covenant is with Abram the Hebrew and his seed and Gentiles do not come from his seed.

"but you are fellow citizens," Saul says.
CITIZENS. The middle wall partition is down/removed and now Jewish Christians and Gentile Christians can hang out together. It's a social permission from God and has nothing to do with any covenants.

 

[Arial]

There are no Gentiles in any of the Hebrew Covenants.
The Abrahamic Covenant is between God, Abraham, and Abraham's seed and Gentiles do not come from Abraham's seed.
The Mosaic Covenant with the seed of Abraham, or the children of Jacob/Israel. There are no Gentiles in this covenant as the children of Jacob, twelve sons and their offspring, make up Abraham's seed. This is one reason why God is referred to as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. There are no Gentiles in any of the Hebrew Covenants.

Do you think repeating that over and over will make it true?

God is referred to as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, because there is one true and living God. As opposed to the many gods of the nations around them.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Do you think repeating that over and over will make it true?

God is referred to as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, because there is one true and living God. As opposed to the many gods of the nations around them.

It is true and needs to be repeated over and again because millions of Gentile Christians believe the opposite and just don't know the truth.