A Question about Spirit

[Eleanor]

The question is, did God entirely withdraw, wash His hands and walk away?
But that is possibly too broad a scope for one thread.
This is what puzzles me
The discussion I was referencing was about free will

1) Adam chose Satan
2) Man fell under the dominion of the Satan
3) God offers man a path to redemption through Jesus Christ
4) Man can freely accept Christ or not, just as Adam did.

Au contraire. . .

Man does not have the sinless disposition nor the complete free will which Adam did.
Sinful man does not prefer and will not choose Christ (Jn 6:44) on his own.
Man cannot choose to be sinless, as Adam could, by rejecting sin each time it was presented.

There is a distribution of power to Satan and man
Satan only has the power God gives him
But God did not give Satan the power of God
And unregenerate man, as he is blind to Satan is also blind to God

It may be the poster was simply their own interpretation.
It prompted me to think because God is sovereign in my scheme of things.
Also, I can agree with John 12:31 but the rest of it...?

"The prince of this world will be driven out."

It is not my understanding so I thought i would check it out with trusted Christians on this site.

Bound so that he cannot deceive men enough to keep them from hearing the gospel and coming to Christ (Jn 12:32, Mk 3:27).

 

[makesends]

fastfredy0 said:
The details consist of who determines how Satan will rule which is a question you didn't ask.

The question is, did God entirely withdraw, wash His hands and walk away?
But that is possibly too broad a scope for one thread.

I don't think anyone here on this site would characterize what God did, in Satan ruling this earth, as entirely withdrawing, washing his hand and walking away. Lol, it's such a broad scope that it can be answered with, "no".

This is what puzzles me
The discussion I was referencing was about free will

1) Adam chose Satan
2) Man fell under the dominion of the Satan
3) God offers man a path to redemption through Jesus Christ
4) Man can freely accept Christ or not, just as Adam did

That is a man-made construction. One might say, 'sophistry'.

And I don't know of any place the Bible says that Adam chose Satan. Man fell under the dominion of sin, not quite the same thing as Satan. He obviously chose to sin, and to act against God, which is not quite the same thing as "chose Satan". The turn of phrase there, and the construction built on it, is man-made. And at least the Reformed among us can see what is wrong with the 'free-will' sound of points 3 and 4.

Seems to me the whole force of the theology of that thread was built on a man-made, man-centered, concept —self-determinism.

There is a distribution of power to Satan and man
Satan only has the power God gives him
But God did not give Satan the power of God
And unregenerate man, as he is blind to Satan is also blind to God

Amen that!

It may be the poster was simply their own interpretation.
It prompted me to think because God is sovereign in my scheme of things.
Also, I can agree with John 12:31 but the rest of it...?
It is not my understanding so I thought i would check it out with trusted Christians on this site.

 

[makesends]

You wonder how God acted in the first place even before man prayed.