A Case For Amillenialism

[David1701]

You posted basically nothing. You quoted basically nothing...that is all you did was make a claim. I had no reason to respond to those unsupported claims.

Continued from previous post...

4) The sign of plagues

"History distinguishes two major cases of infectious diseases that occurred before the Jewish-Roman war. The first epidemic occurred in Babylon around 40 AD and raged so alarmingly that many crowds of Jews fled from that city to Seleucia for safety. The other happened in Rome 65 AD and cost the lives of amazing numbers of people.

Tacitus and Suetonius also described that similar disasters prevailed during this period, in different parts of the Roman Empire. After Jerusalem was surrounded by the army of Titus, pernicious diseases soon made their appearance, to aggravate the misery and to reinforce the horrors of the siege. They were caused in part by the huge crowds gathered together in the city, in part by the rotten exhalations caused by the unearthed dead, and in part by the spread of famine.
(George Peter Holford, The Destruction of Jerusalem, 1805)

5) The sign of earthquakes

'For there broke out a prodigious storm in the night, with the utmost violence, and very strong winds; with the largest showers of rain; with continual lightnings, terrible thundrings, and amazing concussions and bellowings of the earth that was in an earthquake.

These things were a manifest indication that some destruction was coming upon men, when the system of the world was put into this disorder; and any one would guess that these wonders foreshowed some grand calamities that were coming.'
(Josephus, Wars of the Jews, Book 4, chapter 3)

'How often have cities in Asia and Achaea been hit by a fatal shock! So many cities were swallowed up in Syria, so many in Macedonia! How many times has Cyprus been destroyed by this disaster! How often has Paphos become a ruin! We often received the news of entire cities that were destroyed in one fell swoop.'
(Seneca the Younger, circa 58 A.D.)
(quoted by Henry Alford, The New Testament for English Readers, p. 163.)

6) The sign of the presence of the LORD leaving the temple and moving to the Mount of Olives

'The presence of God left the temple and stayed for 3.5 years on the Mount of Olives, hoping that Israel would repent, but they did not. In the meantime, a supernatural voice spoke from heaven: 'Return, apostate children. Return to Me and I will return to you.' When they did not repent, the voice said, 'I will return to My place.'
(Jewish Rabbi named "Jonathan", an eye-witness of the destruction of Jerusalem)
(quoted in, Secrets of Golgotha, by Ernest L. Martin. 84)

'Which it is possible for us to see literally fulfilled in another way even to-day, since believers in Christ all congregate from all parts of the world, not as of old time because of the glory of Jerusalem, nor that they may worship in the ancient Temple at Jerusalem, but they rest there that they may learn both about the city being taken and devastated as the prophets foretold, and that they may worship at the Mount of Olives opposite to the city, whither the glory of the Lord migrated when it left the former city.'

(Eusebius, Proof of the Gospel, Book VI, Chapter 18)

to be continued...

 

[David1701]

You posted basically nothing. You quoted basically nothing...that is all you did was make a claim. I had no reason to respond to those unsupported claims.

Continued from previous post...

7) The sign of armies of angels and an enormous figure of great beauty seen in the clouds over Jerusalem

'A certain figure appeared of tremendous size,
which many saw, just as the books of the Jews have disclosed,
and before the setting of the sun there were suddenly seen
in the clouds chariots and armed battle arrays,
by which the cities of all Iudaea and its territories were invaded.'

(Quote from chapter 44 from the Latin version of the Pseudo-Hegesippus)

Pseudo-Hegesippus is a famous historical account of the Jewish people. The above quote is about the time immediately prior to the destruction of Jerusalem by the Roman armies.

'A demonic phantom appeared of incredible size, and what will be related would have seemed a fairy-tale had it not been told by those who saw it, and been attended by suffering worthy of the portent. For before sunset there appeared in the air over the whole country chariots and armed troops coursing through the clouds and surrounding the cities.'

(Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, Book 3, Chapter 8, Sections 1-6)

The above is also about the time shortly before the destruction of Jerusalem by the Roman armies.

'...chariots and troops of soldiers in their armor were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding of cities.'

(Flavius Josephus, Wars of the Jews, Book 6, Chapter 5, Sections 2-3)
The above quote refers to the time when Jerusalem and the temple were actually being destroyed.

'There had been seen hosts joining battle in the skies, fiery gleams of arms...the temple illuminated by a sudden radiance from the clouds.'
(Gaius Tacitus, The Histories, Book 5.13)

'Now it happened after this that there was seen over the Holy of Holies from above for the entire night the outline of a man's face, the like of whose beauty had never been seen in all the land, and his appearance was very awesome. Moreover, in those days were seen chariots of fire and horsemen, a great force flying across the sky near to the ground coming against Jerusalem and all the land of Judah, all of them horses of fire and riders of fire.'

(Sepher Jossipon, Burning of the temple, Chapter 87)

8) Signs in the heavens

'At one time a star, in form like a sword, stood over the city, and a comet, which lasted for a whole year;' and ... so great a light shone about the altar and the temple that it seemed to be bright day; and this continued for half an hour. This seemed to the unskillful a good sign, but was interpreted by the sacred scribes as portending those events which very soon took place.'

(Eusebius of Caesarea, Ecclesiastical History, Book 3, Chapter 8, Sections 1-6)

'Thus there was a star resembling a sword, which stood over the city, and a comet, that continued a whole year. Thus also before the Jews' rebellion, and before those commotions which preceded the war, when the people were come in great crowds to the feast of unleavened bread, on the eighth day of the month Xanthicus and at the ninth hour of the night, so great a light shone round the altar and the holy house, that it appeared to be bright day time; which lasted for half an hour.'

(Flavius Josephus, ‘Wars of the Jews’, Book 6, chapter 5, sections 2 and 3)

'...the temple illuminated by a sudden radiance from the clouds.'

(Gaius Tacitus, The Histories, Book 5.13)

 

[Alive]

I also believe that many Jews will come to know Christ, as we near the end of the times of the Gentiles (the number of Messianic Jews in Israel has increased significantly, since 1948, although it's still a very small minority).

I've been somewhat unsure what to make of modern Israel, since it is, as you pointed out, a secular nation and completely unlike ancient Israel; however, it has had miraculous deliverances from its enemies (1948, 1967 and 1973).

Ya…it would seem so. They certainly are a desperate and motivated people.
Don’t get me wrong, they battle some very evil folks.

 

[makesends]

That doesn't make much sense to me. I had never heard this before.

Doesn't make much sense to me, either, though it is a curious notion. It may be a way for some to justify God's favoritism toward the Jews in the OT, when they don't/won't see the OT - NT parallels @Arial has been talking about.

Probably impossible to prove either way.

 

[TMSO]

Spiritual Israel is the church. When Gentiles are saved, we are grafted into spiritual Israel. Obviously that is different from the nation of Israel, which is largely in unbelief.

Spiritual Israel is still Israel. It is still the seed of Abraham. Jews are not grafted into the tree/vine, Gentiles are. Paul warned the Gentiles against what replacement theology is. He basically said that they are there solely by invitation, whereas for the Jews, it was a birthright. As such, it is simple to be disinvited, and, as with the prodigal son, that natural branch (the Jews) brought back in. After all, it was their position to begin with. The covenant was with Israel, not the church. The New Covenant is with the church. If you read what Peter said about this in the church council, it is clear that the Jews believed that the Old Covenant still applied to the Jews. It was powerless, as Jesus abolished the law, but that burden, according to Peter, was for the Jews, not the Gentiles. In the end, all the church had to say was not, live by the covenant of Israel/the Jews, but, flee from immorality and do not eat meat sacrificed to idols and it will be well with you.

When replacement theology says the church is Israel, it is usurping the covenant that God made with Israel, which Paul said could NOT be rescinded. It could not be taken back. However, those in replacement theology state differently. It was taken from Israel and given to the church. That is the same as saying it was rescinded, which God, through Paul, said is not the case, and would never be the case. Israel was never rejected. They are under the chastisement of God. Even through Moses, God explained this. If they humble themselves and come to God, He will accept them. God never said that He would reject them, and He never did. Israel remains Israel, the church is made up of the Gentiles and the Jews/Israel. The promises made to Israel belong to Israel, along with the curses. Those curses exist because of the promises, not separate from the promises. God will not fail to be faithful to the forefathers who followed Him. He will not break those promises, whereas in replacement theology, God not only breaks those promises, but breaks the faith with Israel. Both are against His nature.

 

[CrowCross]

Whatever else can be said, it sure was not a cake walk.
Have you read the Josephus account?

The preterist have a problem with " now, no, and never will be."

As for Josephus account...I've read some of those "historical" accounts....So what? When did the Mt of Olives split?

 

[CrowCross]

You want some quotes? Alright then, here you are (you won't be able to make any more claims that I've posted "basically nothing").

1) The sign of there being many false prophets and false messiahs

'Now there was then a great number of false prophets,
suborned by the tyrants, to impose on the people:
who denounced this to them, that they should wait for deliverance from God.'
(Flavius Josephus, Wars of the Jews, Book VI, Chapter V, Section 2)

'And now these impostors and deceivers persuaded the multitude
to follow them into the wilderness: and pretended that they would exhibit manifest wonders and signs, that should be performed by the providence of God.'
(Flavius Josephus, Wars of the Jews, Book XX, Chapter VIII, Section 6)

'The need for this warning soon became apparent, for within a year of ascension, Dositheus the Samaritan rose up, who had the nerve to claim that he was the Messiah whom Moses predicted; while his disciple Simon Magus misled large crowds into believing that he was the 'great power of God'.
(George Peter Holford, 'The Destruction of Jerusalem, An Absolute and Undeniable Evidence of the Divine Origin of Christianity')

Holford names many other similar false messiahs from that period.

2) The sign of wars and rumours of wars

'I am entering on the history of a period rich in disasters, frightful in its wars, torn by civil strife, and even in peace full of horrors.

Four emperors perished by the sword. There were three civil wars; there were more with foreign enemies; there were often wars that had both characters at once. ...

Besides the manifold vicissitudes of human affairs, there were prodigies in heaven and earth, the warning voices of the thunder, and other intimations of the future, auspicious or gloomy, doubtful or not to be mistaken.

Never surely did more terrible calamities of the Roman People, or evidence more conclusive, prove that the Gods take no thought for our happiness, but only for our punishment.
(Gaius Tacitus, The Histories, Book I, January-March A.D. 69)

'... a great multitude of the Germans were in commotion, and tended to rebellion. And as the Gauls in their neighbourhood joined with them, they conspired together...'

'... every part of the habitable earth under them was in an unsettled and tottering condition, ...'

'At the very same time did the bold attempt of the Scythians against the Romans occur. .... they slew a great many of the Romans that guarded the frontiers: and as the consular legate Fonteius Agrippa came to meet them, and fought courageously against them, he was slain by them. They then over-ran all the region that had been subject to him; tearing and rending everything that fell in their way.'
(Flavius Josephus, Wars of the Jews, Book VII, section 2 and 3)

3) The sign of famines

'Now of those that perished by famine in the city, the number was prodigious; and the miseries they underwent were unspeakable.

For if so much as the shadow of any kind of food did any where appear, a war was commenced presently; and the dearest friends fell a fighting one with another about it: snatching from each other the most miserable supports of life. Nor would men believe that those who were dying had no food; but the robbers would search them when they were expiring; lest anyone should have concealed food in their bosoms, and counterfeited dying. Nay these robbers gaped for want, and ran about stumbling and staggering along, like mad dogs; and reeling against the doors of the houses, like drunken men. They would also, in the great distress they were in, rush into the very same houses, two or three times in one and the same day.

Moreover their hunger was so intolerable, that it obliged them to chew everything; while they gathered such things as the most sordid animals would not touch; and endured to eat them.

Nor did they at length abstain from girdles, and shoes; and the very leather which belonged to their shields they pulled off and gnawed. The very wisps of old hay became food to some; and some gathered up fibres, and sold a very small weight of them for four Attick.'
(Flavius Josephus, War of the Jews, Book 6, Chapter 3, Paragraph 4)

to be continued...

You're posting a cake walk. Revelations tells us what's coming.

 

[CrowCross]

'A certain figure appeared of tremendous size,
which many saw, just as the books of the Jews have disclosed,
and before the setting of the sun there were suddenly seen
in the clouds chariots and armed battle arrays,
by which the cities of all Iudaea and its territories were invaded.'

Where did the books of the Jews describe this?

 

[Mr GLee]

Spiritual Israel is still Israel. It is still the seed of Abraham. Jews are not grafted into the tree/vine, Gentiles are. Paul warned the Gentiles against what replacement theology is. He basically said that they are there solely by invitation, whereas for the Jews, it was a birthright. As such, it is simple to be disinvited, and, as with the prodigal son, that natural branch (the Jews) brought back in. After all, it was their position to begin with. The covenant was with Israel, not the church. The New Covenant is with the church. If you read what Peter said about this in the church council, it is clear that the Jews believed that the Old Covenant still applied to the Jews. It was powerless, as Jesus abolished the law, but that burden, according to Peter, was for the Jews, not the Gentiles. In the end, all the church had to say was not, live by the covenant of Israel/the Jews, but, flee from immorality and do not eat meat sacrificed to idols and it will be well with you.

When replacement theology says the church is Israel, it is usurping the covenant that God made with Israel, which Paul said could NOT be rescinded. It could not be taken back. However, those in replacement theology state differently. It was taken from Israel and given to the church. That is the same as saying it was rescinded, which God, through Paul, said is not the case, and would never be the case. Israel was never rejected. They are under the chastisement of God. Even through Moses, God explained this. If they humble themselves and come to God, He will accept them. God never said that He would reject them, and He never did. Israel remains Israel, the church is made up of the Gentiles and the Jews/Israel. The promises made to Israel belong to Israel, along with the curses. Those curses exist because of the promises, not separate from the promises. God will not fail to be faithful to the forefathers who followed Him. He will not break those promises, whereas in replacement theology, God not only breaks those promises, but breaks the faith with Israel. Both are against His nature.

I would offer.

Not replacement theology. But a promise to rename the bride of Christ. . . a more befitting name to name the bride of all the nations of the world as a demonym. People known by location .

Christian literally with no other meaning added .Residents of the city of Christ prepared for the bride or wife named after her founder Christ the husband . Previously calling her "Israel" meaning one who wrestles with flesh and blood and overcomes by the Spirit of Christ working in the born again name

And just as in not all Israel is born again Israel in the same way not all that use the word Christian are Christians

Isaiah 62King James VersionFor Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.

Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Christian a word that has all but lost its use to help understand the mysteries of faith turned into a derogatory name by the world like Bible thumper . . .a word Satan hates

Christians pray to make the name Christian create again. Sound the Trump.

 

[David1701]

You're posting a cake walk. Revelations tells us what's coming.

I tell you what, why don't you re-enact the starvation, disease, tortures, etc., of the Roman siege of Jerusalem, with you as a victim, then tell us how much of a "cake walk" it was.

 

[CrowCross]

I tell you what, why don't you re-enact the starvation, disease, tortures, etc., of the Roman siege of Jerusalem, with you as a victim, then tell us how much of a "cake walk" it was.

We can do it 6 million times with the holocaust....which was far worse. But, you will have to argue it wasn't worse.

What's coming is much more worse than the destruction of Jerusalem or the holocaust.

 

[Mr GLee]

We can do it 6 million times with the holocaust....which was far worse. But, you will have to argue it wasn't worse.

What's coming is much more worse than the destruction of Jerusalem or the holocaust.

Worse. The end of time?

 

[TMSO]

I would offer.

Not replacement theology. But a promise to rename the bride of Christ. . . a more befitting name to name the bride of all the nations of the world as a demonym. People known by location .

Christian literally with no other meaning added .Residents of the city of Christ prepared for the bride or wife named after her founder Christ the husband . Previously calling her "Israel" meaning one who wrestles with flesh and blood and overcomes by the Spirit of Christ working in the born again name

And just as in not all Israel is born again Israel in the same way not all that use the word Christian are Christians

Isaiah 62King James VersionFor Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.

Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Christian a word that has all but lost its use to help understand the mysteries of faith turned into a derogatory name by the world like Bible thumper . . .a word Satan hates

Christians pray to make the name Christian create again. Sound the Trump.

Christian means Christ follower. Yes it was an insult because of what it meant at that time. However, it has come to mean more, and people came to recognize that.

 

[Mr GLee]

Christian means Christ follower. Yes it was an insult because of what it meant at that time. However, it has come to mean more, and people came to recognize that.

Christian means residents of the city of Christ prepared for his bide the church. named after her founder and husband Christ Following is what they do .Christian who they are.

 

[TMSO]

Christian means residents of the city of Christ prepared for his bide the church. named after her founder and husband Christ Following is what they do .Christian who they are.

You don't get to change definitions. Christian means Christ follower.

 

[Ghada]

This is from Kim Riddlebarger's book of the same title. This is his closing comments in the preface to the updated publishing. I started this for two purposes.
1. To encourage folks interrested in the various eschatological positions, to read his book.
2. To also encourage folks who may not have, to look more closely at the Amillennial POV.

IMO, brother Kim does an exceptionally honest and fair look at all of the positions and comparing them to scripture very carefully along the way. You may not agree with him, but I can guarantee you will learn more about your own position juxtaposed against the others.
Iron sharpens iron.

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In the case of Israel, God established his covenant with the nation at Mount Sinai. While this covenant was based on the works principle established under the original covenant of works (blessing promised for perfect obedience and curse threatened for any disobedience), this covenant was administered to Israel as part of the covenant of grace. This can be seen in the fact that God gave to Israel a priesthood, animal sacrifices, and a tabernacle (and then a temple) to relieve their guilt of sin and to instruct them about the coming Messiah and the nature of his saving work. This explains the typology present through the Sinai covenant and its temple, priesthood, etc.

When the nation of Israel comes under God’s covenant curses because of their repeated disobedience and lack of repentance, and the nation is first cast from the land during the Babylonian captivity and then again after the events of AD 70, this has no bearing whatsoever on the fact that God has his elect believers among the Israelites (and who are, under the terms of the covenant of grace, saved by grace through faith in the promised Messiah), even though the nation of which they were citizens (Israel) came under God’s covenant curse threatened in the covenant sanctions established at Sinai. Israel’s possession of the land of promise, therefore, was part of a national covenant and was conditioned upon national obedience. The New Testament writers are clear (much to the dispensationalist’s dismay) that the everlasting land promise God made to Abraham is now fulfilled in Jesus Christ, who is the true Israel. This becomes clear when Paul universalizes the Abrahamic promise of a land in Palestine now extending to the ends of the earth (Rom. 4:13). Abraham is now depicted as heir of the world.

Therefore, to tie God’s choice of Israel to serve a critical role in redemptive history (as recipients of the Sinai covenant) to God’s choice of those particular individuals whom he chooses to save (“sovereign election,” to use MacArthur’s phrase) is to overlook a very important distinction made throughout the whole of the Bible. One might be part of the visible people of God yet not be a true believer, nor numbered among God’s elect. This is the classical distinction between the visible and the invisible church. To paraphrase Paul in Romans 9:6, “Not all Israel is Israel.” Yet, says Paul, within national Israel (which receives and possesses the land based on obedience—Josh. 21:43), there is an elect remnant according to grace (Rom. 11:5–6) whom God will indeed save through the merits of Jesus Christ received through faith alone. reface to the Expanded Edition P

So to argue as MacArthur and other dispensationalists do—that the Reformed view of the election of Israel to be God’s covenant nation is directly tied to God’s decree of those particular individuals whom he will save through faith in Jesus—does not reflect the historic Reformed position. The basis for MacArthur’s claim is the unfortunate conflation of Israel’s divinely ordained role in redemptive history with God’s sovereign choice of those individuals whom he intends to save. This reflects the dispensationalist’s rejection of covenant theology as expressed throughout the Reformed tradition and confessions and illustrates an unfortunate willingness to discuss sovereign election in the abstract—apart from the biblical means and redemptive-historical context in which God saves his elect sinners (i.e., the covenants of works and grace) as these covenants unfold in biblical history.

Unless and until these hermeneutical differences between covenant theologians and dispensationalists are resolved, Reformed amillenarians and dispensationalists are not going to agree about Israel’s role in redemptive history, nor will we agree about the way in which the New Testament reinterprets the Old in the light of the coming of Jesus Christ and the dawn of the messianic age. This is why I hope the debate will continue and why I ask you, the reader, to weigh these matters with both an open mind and a well-worn Bible. It is my prayer that this expanded edition of A Case for Amillennialism will help you do exactly that.

Amillinialism is neither a doctrine nor a prophecy in Scripture.

It's just a rejection of the prophecy of the Lord Himself coming to govern all nations of the earth. It's called a millinium by prophecy of His rule being for a thousand years.

 

[Mr GLee]

Amillinialism is neither a doctrine nor a prophecy in Scripture.

It's just a rejection of the prophecy of the Lord Himself coming to govern all nations of the earth. It's called a millinium by prophecy of His rule being for a thousand years.

Christ is here reigning in the hearts of his born again kingdom of priest .What would we wait for if he is already working in us with us until the end of time under the Sun ? .

Revelation the last chapter in the book of law is introduced as the signified prophecy .Using the temporal things seen as a sign that points to the unseen eternal . Parable or figurative poetic language . Called hidden manna in 2:17 our daily bread .

The figurative thousand years used the first three times with three denoting the end of the matter, the signified it is easily seen a parable is in view. Setting the standard for thousand years or thousand what so ever is in view as a unknown no need to know .

No signs were given to wonder marvel after. The lord desires we walk or understand after the hidden manna .Taste like honey..

Psalm 90:4For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

As yesterday not is

As denotes a parable is in sight .

Ecclesiastes 6:6 Yea, though he live a thousand years twice told, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?

Twice told not thousand once told

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

as not is one day .

No signs were given. Legion Satan the Kings of lying sign to wonder after . . . working overtime today.

In that way I would think in the chapter (Revelation) with the all metaphors of all generation used in parables it must follow the first three examples. It does not become literal in the middle of the stream of metaphors used in parable as some sort of sign to wonder after as if it was true prophecy

The veil was rent. Satan has fallen taking away his lying power to deceive all the nations of the world. That God is a dying Jewish man as king of kings. The Holy of Holies was empty to show the invisible power of Christ labor of love or work of his faithfulness .

Satan like the Wizzard of Oz big voice . But no substance the "let there be" good kind of good .

God is not a Jewish man dying mankind. . the fake King of kings

 

[Ghada]

Christ is here reigning in the hearts of his born again kingdom of priest. rWhat would we wait for if he is already working in us with us until the end of time under the Sun ? .

You've never heard of watching for His coming? Resurrection from the dead?

I understand some people reject the Lord's millinnium on earth, so that they can believe they are already 'spiritually' reigning with Christ now and forever. They therefore tell themselves the second death can't have any power over them, because they can't be judged by their works any more.

Since I've taken up my own cross for Jesus Christ, that He should reign over me, I'm not iinterested in any co-headship reigning with Him in my life, especially not over others.

 

[Mr GLee]

You've never heard of watching for His coming? Resurrection from the dead?

I understand some people reject the Lord's millinnium on earth, so that they can believe they are already 'spiritually' reigning with Christ now and forever. They therefore tell themselves the second death can't have any power over them, because they can't be judged by their works any more.

Since I've taken up my own cross for Jesus Christ, that He should reign over me, I'm not iinterested in any co-headship reigning with Him in my life, especially not over others.

Hi Thanks

Watching for who to come?


No sign to his leaving were given. Save the signs of the times earthquakes wars rumor of wars etc. Business as usual

God is not a man. and neither is there any dying fleshly infallible interpreter set between our Holy Father not seen and dying mankind seen

Jesus called those who did seek after a fleshly Saviour an evil generation "unredeemed mankind".

Believers have prophecy till the end of time sealed with 7 seals

The Pagan foundation "out of sight out of mind" (fools) faithless

Christ the husband is the Holy Spirit of God that dwelt in Jesus the Son of man and the rest of the apostles. Just as he does today in sons of God born again believers

 

[Ghada]

Revelation the last chapter in the book of law is introduced as the signified prophecy .Using the temporal things seen as a sign that points to the unseen eternal . Parable or figurative poetic language .

1Pe 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

Jesus Christ dying for our sins is not a parable, nor is His resurrection fingurative. Nor is His coming again a myth:

2Pe 1:16For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

Called hidden manna in 2:17 our daily bread .

The resurrected Lamb of God and His righteous faith is the manna given to them that repent, and is hidden in the pure hearts of His saints.

Jhn 6:48I am that bread of life.Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

Symbolic fable made out of true prophecy of Scripture, is digged out from mystery Babylon's storehouse of deceitful folly:

Isa 30:9That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD: Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:

Rev 2:24But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, that they speak;

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

In that way I would think in the chapter (Revelation) with the all metaphors

Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

No as, nor symbol, nor metaphor in Rev 20.

The blessed resurrection is bodily, their reign on earth with the Lord is a thousand years, the last rebellion on this earth is after His reign expires, Satan is cast into the lake of fire, the old heaven and earth pass away, the rest of the dead are raised to be judged by works. The wicked not found in the book of life are cast into the lake of fire, and them written therein are not, but shall dwell and serve with God and the Lamb forever in His New Jesursalem on the New Earth. (The last part is Rev 21-22)

Isn't that much more simple and refreshing to believe and do, or not, rather than all that Babylonish mind-bending?

The veil was rent. Satan has fallen taking away his lying power to deceive all the nations of the world.

1Pe 5:8Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

You can tell the devil that. Or, rather he's the one telling you that, for you to repeat back to him in poetic mantra.

Always interesting to hear from a created christ. But I'm afraid in this case, that your symbolic fablism made out of prophecy and doctrine of Christ are old hat. It's willingly believed by many in the name of Christ, that want to disannull the righteous judgment of our works, by their own imaginative faith alone.