Why Did God Tell Israel That He is One?

[Viking123]

Ok Long hair is the issue?

It can takes a little work of digging as for silver or gold But it does not apply in the case of Jesus, the Son of man . A Nazarene from Nazareth. The first denomination or sect listed .

Jesus under a ceremonial vow like that of Samson or Paul who shaved finishing the vow

Acts 18:18 And Paul after this tarried there yet a good while, and then took his leave of the brethren, and sailed thence into Syria, and with him Priscilla and Aquila; having shorn his head in Cenchrea: for he had a vow.

Acts 24: 5 For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes:

1 Corinthians 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

The vow was gender neutral . Women were required to cover it .Again as a ceremonial law or shdow .

Whenever a new born again believer entered fellowship The women were to pare thier nail and shave thier heads . No beauty salon. . get your nails and hair done up. A picture of the submissive bride .

As man represents the glory of unseen God women covers the glory of men . Woman not left without a presentative glory of her own .She must cover her hair or head.

Upside down today some Jewish men covering thier head (yarmulke) exposing they have no gospel understanding

In the way the only glory is that of the two working as one new creature .

Revelation shows Satan coming in all his false glory ,Face of a man hair as the women .

Revelation 9:6-8King James Version And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.

The new unbeauty salon. Pare the nails shave the head . A shave and nail surgery two bits (25 cents

The Christian look

Deuteronomy 21:12 Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;

A Nazarite, not a Nazarene.

 

[Mr GLee]

A Nazarite, not a Nazarene.

I would offer.

A Nazarite from Nazareth .

Matthew 2:23 He went and dwelt in a town called Nazareth, so that what was spoken through the prophets might be fulfilled: He shall be called a Nazarene [Branch, Separated One].

Not all were under the vow.

Below the introduction of the first listed denomination (sect of the Nazarenes.)

Acts 24:5 For we have found this man a perfect pest (a real plague), an agitator and source of disturbance to all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the [heretical, [b]division-producing] sect of the Nazarenes.

 

[Tambora]

I AM. . .The let there be and it was good power of Christ

They thought he was calling his own dying self. . . . God

Christians as sons of God are gods having a spirit No longer called daughters of men or sons of men

John 10:34-36King James Version Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Jesus the Son of man would never blaspheme the name of I AM

Jesus was quoting from Ps 82.
So let's be clear about the verse and why Jesus quotes it.

Ps 82:1​

God [elohim] has taken his place in the divine council;​

in the midst of the gods [elohim] he holds judgment:​

We clearly see that the first elohim mentioned is Yahweh and the second elohim mentioned is a group that the first elohim (Yahweh) sits in the midst of.

As we read the rest of the verses we see that
Yahweh is the God who judges justly, and the group of gods judge unjustly.

Therefore we know that Jesus was not saying He was one of those gods that Yahweh sat in the midst of.
We know this because those gods [elohim] were being admonished by Yahweh for not being just and were judging unjustly.
Jesus was not unjust, nor did Jesus judge unjustly.
So the only "elohim" that Jesus could be in Psalms 82 is the elohim that judges justly, and that would be Yahweh.

So when Jesus has just told the crowd that He and the Father are one and then quotes Ps 82 (in John 10), the Pharisees knew what Jesus had claimed and was continuing to claim.

 

[Viking123]

I would offer.

A Nazarite from Nazareth .

Matthew 2:23 He went and dwelt in a town called Nazareth, so that what was spoken through the prophets might be fulfilled: He shall be called a Nazarene [Branch, Separated One].

Not all were under the vow.

Below the introduction of the first listed denomination (sect of the Nazarenes.)

Acts 24:5 For we have found this man a perfect pest (a real plague), an agitator and source of disturbance to all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the [heretical, [b]division-producing] sect of the Nazar

I would offer.

A Nazarite from Nazareth .

Matthew 2:23 He went and dwelt in a town called Nazareth, so that what was spoken through the prophets might be fulfilled: He shall be called a Nazarene [Branch, Separated One].

Not all were under the vow.

Below the introduction of the first listed denomination (sect of the Nazarenes.)

Acts 24:5 For we have found this man a perfect pest (a real plague), an agitator and source of disturbance to all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the [heretical, [b]division-producing] sect of the Nazarenes.

Being a Nazarite had 0 to do where one came from. It was more of a covenant between that one and God, like Samson. They could not drink alcohol, nor cut their hair until that Nazarite service was fulfilled.

 

[Mr GLee]

Jesus was quoting from Ps 82.
So let's be clear about the verse and why Jesus quotes it.

Ps 82:1​

God [elohim] has taken his place in the divine council;​

in the midst of the gods [elohim] he holds judgment:​

We clearly see that the first elohim mentioned is Yahweh and the second elohim mentioned is a group that the first elohim (Yahweh) sits in the midst of.

As we read the rest of the verses we see that
Yahweh is the God who judges justly, and the group of gods judge unjustly.

Therefore we know that Jesus was not saying He was one of those gods that Yahweh sat in the midst of.
We know this because those gods [elohim] were being admonished by Yahweh for not being just and were judging unjustly.
Jesus was not unjust, nor did Jesus judge unjustly.
So the only "elohim" that Jesus could be in Psalms 82 is the elohim that judges justly, and that would be Yahweh.

So when Jesus has just told the crowd that He and the Father are one and then quotes Ps 82 (in John 10), the Pharisees knew what Jesus had claimed and was continuing to claim.

Hi Thanks

All judgment is left to the unseen Holy Father.

Elohim us the dynamic dual

(1) Christ the invisible Father demonstrating his love through the temporal dying. (2) (Jesus the Son of man )

One judge many sons of God as gods. Sent forth to preach as apostles

John 10:34-36King James Version Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them (apostles) gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Sends out gods two by two

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Can't see God gods

False his and hers gods called Patron saints on the rise daily.


Fale prohet false apotles whose hope is in I heard it through the father grapes vine .Oral tradtions of dying mankind

 

[Viking123]

Hi Thanks

All judgment is left to the unseen Holy Father.

Elohim us the dynamic dual

(1) Christ the invisible Father demonstrating his love through the temporal dying. (2) (Jesus the Son of man )

One judge many sons of God as gods. Sent forth to preach as apostles

John 10:34-36King James Version Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them (apostles) gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Sends out gods two by two

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Can't see God gods

False his and hers gods called Patron saints on the rise daily.


Fale prohet false apotles whose hope is in I heard it through the father grapes vine .Oral tradtions of dying mankind

god( small g = has godlike qualities= the ability to love, reason, etc.))) or for false gods= gets worship, etc.

 

[Mr GLee]

god( small g = has godlike qualities= the ability to love, reason, etc.))) or for false gods= gets worship, etc.

Exactly Jesus the Son of man fits into the god like quality like all born again from above. . strengthened by the father.

 

[TrevorL]

Greetings Tambora,

As we read the rest of the verses we see that
Yahweh is the God who judges justly, and the group of gods judge unjustly.

Therefore we know that Jesus was not saying He was one of those gods that Yahweh sat in the midst of.
We know this because those gods [elohim] were being admonished by Yahweh for not being just and were judging unjustly.
Jesus was not unjust, nor did Jesus judge unjustly.
So the only "elohim" that Jesus could be in Psalms 82 is the elohim that judges justly, and that would be Yahweh.

You are superimposing a condition and a logic from Psalm 82 which is not valid in its own context or in the context of John 10. The Judges were given the Divine title "Elohim" because of their responsibility and elevated position in Israel. The particular Judges that the Psalmist is condemning is against those Judges in Israel who were unfaithful.

We need to look at the context of John 10:
John 10:29–38 (KJV): 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and my Father are one. 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

Jesus calls the One God, Yahweh, God the Father as his Father, and states that his Father is greater than all, including himself.

I and my Father are one. Jesus is not claiming here to be the One God, but that he is in unity with the One God, his Father. A quick comparison with John 17 shows that the Apostles and the believers are also part of this unity.

I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, Jesus gives us the reason why these Judges were called gods or Elohim, is because of their elevated position and responsibility in dispensing the judgements of God faithfully.

Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world Jesus, as well as the Judges, also had a special status and responsibility in the Jewish world. He had been sanctified by God, and sent into the world.

Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? Jesus did not claim to be God, he claimed to be the Son of God, that is the One God, Yahweh, God the Father..

So when Jesus has just told the crowd that He and the Father are one and then quotes Ps 82 (in John 10), the Pharisees knew what Jesus had claimed and was continuing to claim.

Jesus answered the Pharisees' false accusation, and you still follow their error.

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[Mr GLee]

You are superimposing a condition and a logic from Psalm 82 which is not valid in its own context or in the context of John 10. The Judges were given the Divine title "Elohim" because of their responsibility and elevated position in Israel. The particular Judges that the Psalmist is condemning is against those Judges in Israel who were unfaithful.

Where would you find that kind of idea that Judges are called Elohim?

Elohim two gods working as one .Two is the word that indicates the Father not seen demonstrates the power of the Father to raise the dead using the a created god Jesus the Son of God .

He is not ashamed to call us brothers and sisters

The key let us make a man that represents God and man (our image) so he did.

He created them man and woman to represent Christ our husband that works in a with his born again bride.

He created mankind male and female .He has no gender.

Genesis 1: 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.