Validity of Apostolic Succession, and RCC as the One Holy Catholic Church

[Arch Stanton]

Here it is again for those who can't even scroll up:

When one can't seem to respond to #1, how can they get to #2?

One must crawl before they walk!

 

[Arial]

My response deals with the authority of Peter [keys of authority]... why would Luther say the representative?

Your response wasn't dealing with your own claim that I gave a rebuttal to. The conversation was not about the authority of Peter---that is a whole other set of posts you have failed to respond to--it was about you trying to say that Luther was supporting the papacy by yanking a quote of his out of his context. What I did was put it in its context to show what you had done.

Is all this obfuscating real confusion and inability to track even your own conversations real or is it a well-known Catholic tactic to try and make things so tangled and muddied for their own purpose? Which by the way only serves to show either the dogma is so intrenched the brain can no longer process thinking properly, or they have stopped up their ears against anything that the traditions of men of the RCC tell them will send them to hell. You are your own worst enemy in a debate.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Your response wasn't dealing with your own claim that I gave a rebuttal to. The conversation was not about the authority of Peter---that is a whole other set of posts you have failed to respond to--it was about you trying to say that Luther was supporting the papacy by yanking a quote of his out of his context. What I did was put it in its context to show what you had done.

Is all this obfuscating real confusion and inability to track even your own conversations real or is it a well-known Catholic tactic to try and make things so tangled and muddied for their own purpose? Which by the way only serves to show either the dogma is so intrenched the brain can no longer process thinking properly, or they have stopped up their ears against anything that the traditions of men of the RCC tell them will send them to hell. You are your own worst enemy in a debate.

Wasn't it you who changed things to 'rock' when that wasn't on the table? I'll go back and double check...

 

[Arial]

Wasn't it you who changed things to 'rock' when that wasn't on the table? I'll go back and double check...

You do that. I will be waiting.

 

[Arch Stanton]

You do that. I will be waiting.

post 96

 

[Arial]

post 96

I will put that into context so you can maybe follow and produce cogent responses.

Wasn't it you who changed things to 'rock' when that wasn't on the table? I'll go back and double check...

In response to @John Bauer post that Jesus gave the keys to the kingdom to the apostles, you replied:

only to Pierre... Mt 16; Mt 18 has 'bind/loose' with no keys

To which I replied with Post @96 dealing with your assumption that Matt 16 is giving Peter authority over Christ's church. Whether he be the rock or has the keys, as you claim the first things (rock) in order to claim the second thing (keys) To show that I needed to break down the entire pertinent passage Matt 16. I gave the grammatical breakdown that shows Peter is not the rock upon which Christ said he would build his church, the revelation he received was.

To which you simply replied:

'In like manner He says, in Matthew xvi, to the one man Peter, who stands as the representative of the one and only Church.'
[A brief explanation of the Creed; Works of Martin Luther vol. 2 - p.373]

Which was a complete deflection and deception. See post #99.