The Three "Lost Verses" of Acts

[EarlyActs]

For Dispensational eschatology to survive, there needs to be 3 'lost verses' discovered in an original text of Acts.

1, a verse at Acts 2:31B that declares that the resurrection is not the Davidic enthronement of "the future," even though Peter says it is. The verse would tell everyone to realize that X000 years in the future there would be a Davidic kingdom on earth because there is not going to be a confusion of Jews with Christians; that Jews will have the world for 1000 years under a 'Messiah' who may not be Christ (not sure).

2, a verse at Acts 13:39B that says that the Isaiah quote just made does not mean the land of Israel, and that X000 years in the future there will be a Judaistic millenium with the temple and all that.

3, a verse at Acts 26:7B that says to ignore what he just said about the hope of Israel being fulfilled in the resurrection and that X000 years in the future there will be a kingdom in the land and that the worships system, which they now keep going day and night, will be central. So there is no conflict!

 

[Mr GLee]

For Dispensational eschatology to survive, there needs to be 3 'lost verses' discovered in an original text of Acts.

1, a verse at Acts 2:31B that declares that the resurrection is not the Davidic enthronement of "the future," even though Peter says it is. The verse would tell everyone to realize that X000 years in the future there would be a Davidic kingdom on earth because there is not going to be a confusion of Jews with Christians; that Jews will have the world for 1000 years under a 'Messiah' who may not be Christ (not sure).

2, a verse at Acts 13:39B that says that the Isaiah quote just made does not mean the land of Israel, and that X000 years in the future there will be a Judaistic millenium with the temple and all that.

3, a verse at Acts 26:7B that says to ignore what he just said about the hope of Israel being fulfilled in the resurrection and that X000 years in the future there will be a kingdom in the land and that the worships system, which they now keep going day and night, will be central. So there is no conflict!

It would seem many forget not all of Israel are born again Israel. The same with the word Jew no al that say hey are born agin Jews are In the

Same way with the new name the father named His bride. Christian, literally meaning (residents of the city of Christ) named after her husband Christ. Not all that say they are Christians are born again. Some remained under Jacob the deceiver, non converted mankind .

It would seem two resurrections working altogether as one,

 

[CrowCross]

1, a verse at Acts 2:31B that declares that the resurrection is not the Davidic enthronement of "the future," even though Peter says it is.

This would mean we can't trust anything Peter says. Are you willing to accept that?

 

[Mr GLee]

This would mean we can't trust anything Peter says. Are you willing to accept that?

It would depend on what he says? Who inspires him .

Mathew 16: 22-23 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

When Peter rebuked the invisible head Christ and forbid the Son of man Jesus from doing the will of the father . We resist that kind of false prophecy.

 

[CrowCross]

It would depend on what he says? Who inspires him .

Is not ALL scripture inspired by the Hols Spirit? Even what Peter wrote?

 

[Rella]

For Dispensational eschatology to survive, there needs to be 3 'lost verses' discovered in an original text of Acts.

1, a verse at Acts 2:31B that declares that the resurrection is not the Davidic enthronement of "the future," even though Peter says it is. The verse would tell everyone to realize that X000 years in the future there would be a Davidic kingdom on earth because there is not going to be a confusion of Jews with Christians; that Jews will have the world for 1000 years under a 'Messiah' who may not be Christ (not sure).

2, a verse at Acts 13:39B that says that the Isaiah quote just made does not mean the land of Israel, and that X000 years in the future there will be a Judaistic millenium with the temple and all that.

3, a verse at Acts 26:7B that says to ignore what he just said about the hope of Israel being fulfilled in the resurrection and that X000 years in the future there will be a kingdom in the land and that the worships system, which they now keep going day and night, will be central. So there is no conflict!

Just curious.

IF "For Dispensational eschatology to survive, there needs to be 3 'lost verses' discovered in an original text of Acts."

What is this original text of Acts and where can it be read by paople?

 

[makesends]

This would mean we can't trust anything Peter says. Are you willing to accept that?

I thought that was his very point! He was inventing something contradictory to scripture, but necessary for Dispensationalism to survive, to demonstrate the absurdity of Dispensationalism.

 

[Mr GLee]

Is not ALL scripture inspired by the Hols Spirit? Even what Peter wrote?

I would offer..

Christian prophets preach the gospel as it is written . . Writers are moved by the Holy Spirit of Christ the husband of the bride the church . They are not moved by their own imagination.

Peter wrote. . inspired by Peter? Or Peter was inspired from above coming down like rain the testimony of our invisible God.

We know what happens when inspired by Peter the gates of hell open Peter rebukes the unseen Holy Father and forbids Jesus the Son of man from doing the good powerful will of the father.

Peter used as one of the legion of antichrists "another teaching authority other than sola scriptura" as oral traditions of dying mankind, For instance. . "I heard it through the dead father's grapevine"

Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy against the Son of Man Jesus. That 33 year window of opportunity ended,

No forgiveness against the unseen "Let there be" good testimony the Holy Father. The gates of hell came to a close

Mather 16 22-23Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.;But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Makes me wonder? Why Catholicism did not chose the Son of man Jesus as the vicar Christ but do the son of man Peter? Blasphemy? Missing inspired revelations?

 

[CrowCross]

I thought that was his very point! He was inventing something contradictory to scripture, but necessary for Dispensationalism to survive, to demonstrate the absurdity of Dispensationalism.

Peter being guided and influenced by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit would not be contradictory.

Just how is dispensationalism absurd?

 

[CrowCross]

Just curious.

IF "For Dispensational eschatology to survive, there needs to be 3 'lost verses' discovered in an original text of Acts."

What is this original text of Acts and where can it be read by paople?

I believe that question has to be answered.

 

[Mr GLee]

Peter being guided and influenced by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit would not be contradictory.

Just how is dispensationalism absurd?

And when guided by Satan the spirit of the antichrists as when Peter rebuked the unseen Holy Father and forbid Jesus the Son of man from doing the fathers will. (Mathew 16 ) ?

It is absurd because it does not follow the prescription needed to rightly divide the signified tongue of parables comparing the temporal things seen the historical as a sign to the unseen eternal faith.

2 Corinthians 4:18While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

A warning to the sign and wonder seekers like those who made Jesus into a cirsu seal do some magic create a miracle then when we seeit with our own eye we might believe. No sign was given to wonder, wonder, wonder after.

Believers have prophecy till the end .They will not replace it with lying signs to wonder after like Limbo or Purgatory

 

[makesends]

Peter being guided and influenced by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit would not be contradictory.

Just how is dispensationalism absurd?

I didn't say it was absurd. I said that I understood his use of the need for additional scripture (and the necessary resulting contradiction against extant scripture) to be a rhetorical device to demonstrate the absurdity of it. Not that it is absurd, but rather that perhaps he thinks it was. My point was not that it was absurd. Back down.

I believe that question has to be answered.

I didn't understand him to be saying that there ARE such verses.

 

[EarlyActs]

There are no such verses but the D theory operates as though there are.

 

[Rella]

There are no such verses but the D theory operates as though there are.

 

[Josheb]

Just how is dispensationalism absurd?

I wrote six ops on that very subject (scroll down the page to find them).

Go (back) to any of them and ask about those problems if there's a sincere desire to know how Dispensational Premillennialism is absurd. Dispensationalism is radically different than what historical, orthodox Christianity has been teaching for 2000 years, it compromises core Christian doctrine and leads to dissociative living. It is a theology that propagates false teachers that no one within Dispensationalism does anything about, thereby indicating chronic hypocrisy and a consistent and enduring lack of accountability that began with the inception of Dispensational Premillennialism. Pick an op and learn more about those absurdities.


(now.... back to the regularly schedule program, "The Three Lost Verses of Acts" )
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[Josheb]

For Dispensational eschatology to survive, there needs to be 3 'lost verses' discovered in an original text of Acts.

1, a verse at Acts 2:31B that declares that the resurrection is not the Davidic enthronement of "the future," even though Peter says it is. The verse would tell everyone to realize that X000 years in the future there would be a Davidic kingdom on earth because there is not going to be a confusion of Jews with Christians; that Jews will have the world for 1000 years under a 'Messiah' who may not be Christ (not sure).

2, a verse at Acts 13:39B that says that the Isaiah quote just made does not mean the land of Israel, and that X000 years in the future there will be a Judaistic millenium with the temple and all that.

3, a verse at Acts 26:7B that says to ignore what he just said about the hope of Israel being fulfilled in the resurrection and that X000 years in the future there will be a kingdom in the land and that the worships system, which they now keep going day and night, will be central. So there is no conflict!

.....and all the many verses in the New Testament that explain various Old Testament verses would have to be removed from the Bible.

 

[CrowCross]

I wrote six ops on that very subject (scroll down the page to find them).

Obviously they weren't very effective.

 

[Josheb]

Obviously they weren't very effective.

Fail. The lack of dissent proves they are effective. So effective no dispute could be sustained. You are, nonetheless, invited to go to anyone of those threads and learn more about the absurdities of Dispensationalism and not further digress from this op.

@EarlyActs is 100% correct when he points out the need of Dispensationalism to address what is explicitly stated by Peter regarding the promised throne...... or find a lost verse that supports its teaching

Acts 2:30-31
Being therefore a prophet and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him that he would set one of his descendants on his throne, he foresaw and spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that he was not abandoned to Hades, nor did his flesh see corruption.

When God spoke to David about a promised throne God was speaking about the resurrection and His Son not be abandoned to the grave. When David spoke of God's promise concerning the throne, he was speaking of the resurrection of Christ, not a physical chair. Yet Dispensational Premillennialism (DP) teaches otherwise. DPism teaches the throne promised David and his descendants is an earthly throne, a throne that will be constituted during the 1000 years of Revelation 20. Peter stated the promise of an eternal throne has been fulfilled. DPism teaches it is not fulfilled.

DPism is absurd.

 

[EarlyActs]

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Meaning what?

 

[Mr GLee]

Obviously they weren't very effective.

I would offer when and if a person takes away the unseen spiritual understanding called faith\belief\understanding . . The "let there be power."(as it written by the finger of God)

Then it seems easy to see they must ignore the opening prescription Revlation1:1 needed to rightly divide the parables the signified understanding. Not just inspired but signified. Using the temporal; seen as a sign that points towards the unseen eternal vison as it written

Called hidden manna in Rev 2:17 (daily bread)

No signs were given to wonder after. Believers have prophecy sealed with seven seals

Without parables the signified. . temporal mixed with eternal understanding Christ spoke not ..

I would offer be careful how we hear who we say we do.

It would seem in many cases lying signs to wonder, wonder, wonder, marvel after making to no effect the gospel understanding hid in the signified ,

No literal thousand years .No signs were given wonder, wonder after as if true prophecy (sola scriptura) .

Understanding God according to his Faithful powerful understanding as it is written

Revelation 11 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Satan the king of lying signs to wonder, wonder, marvel after. Prophecy God's living abiding word no need to wonder