The Rapture/Resurrection of the Church is near.

[CrowCross]

Probably will be an underground market. I mean, that last great beast ain't really God.

I agree. There will be some sort of underground market. But, you won't get into Cosco with out it.

Into Scripture? That's the problem with a lot of readers, they try to dig too deep, because they don't like the words on paper.

So, I don't like the words on the paper??? To be honest I'm not really worried because I won't be here...I'll have been raptured with the rest of the church.

 

[Mr GLee]

I agree. There will be some sort of underground market. But, you won't get into Cosco with out it.

The buying and selling has to do with the gospel understanding. A spiritual work not literal provisions .But rather food for the soul.

He will sent a famine for hearing the word not milk and bread

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

A mark not a sign on the hand to represent will of dying mankind and forehead the mind .

No literal signs. it natural converted mankind that does seek after a sign before they beleive . They made Jesus into a circus seal. declaring. . work some magic create a miracle then when we see it with our own eyes then we will believe for a micro second .

666 the mark of Cain the restless wanderer no gospel rest like Abel

The mark what ever God says comes to pass. if they muder Cain the restles wander they bebocome the same fools no God in their hearts

Genesis 4:15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain (666 unconverted mankind) , lest any finding him should kill him.

Mark not sign .

 

[CrowCross]

The buying and selling has to do with the gospel understanding. A spiritual work not literal provisions .But rather food for the soul.

No it's not.

It talks about buying and selling.....not understanding the gospel. In fact your interpretation would indicate we need the mark to understand the gospel.

He will sent a famine for hearing the word not milk and bread

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

A mark not a sign on the hand to represent will of dying mankind and forehead the mind .

No literal signs. it natural converted mankind that does seek after a sign before they beleive . They made Jesus into a circus seal. declaring. . work some magic create a miracle then when we see it with our own eyes then we will believe for a micro second .

666 the mark of Cain the restless wanderer no gospel rest like Abel

The mark what ever God says comes to pass. if they muder Cain the restles wander they bebocome the same fools no God in their hearts

Genesis 4:15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain (666 unconverted mankind) , lest any finding him should kill him.

Speculation....that both marks are the same.

The description for mark in revelations is here....while the description in Gen is here.
Gen sort of tells what it is...like a sign in a grocery store while Rev is more of an identification such as when you use your credit card to pay for what you picked up in the grocery store.

Mark not sign .

 

[Mr GLee]

No it's not.

It talks about buying and selling.....not understanding the gospel. In fact your interpretation would indicate we need the mark to understand the gospel.

I would offer.

No sign was given its the mark alone

Its about the gospel if any famine, its one for hearing the undestanding of the word all die .Again the eternal gospel ..not about the flesh which

jesus of his own flesh profits for nothing .It is about the work of the unseen Holy Father Christ

I believe it is my the mark of His word . Mark my word what he says comes to pass . the let there be and it came to pass it was God alone good the law of faith Christ in us .

Yoked with His labor of love our burdens can be lighter and can make green pasture sleep. the kind David spoke of . "When I awake you are still here . The fast is broken the green pasture steadily growing LOL

Psalm 139:18 If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee.

 

[CrowCross]

I would offer.

No sign was given its the mark alone

Its about the gospel if any famine, its one for hearing the undestanding of the word all die .Again the eternal gospel ..not about the flesh which

jesus of his own flesh profits for nothing .It is about the work of the unseen Holy Father Christ

I believe it is my the mark of His word . Mark my word what he says comes to pass . the let there be and it came to pass it was God alone good the law of faith Christ in us .

Yoked with His labor of love our burdens can be lighter and can make green pasture sleep. the kind David spoke of . "When I awake you are still here . The fast is broken the green pasture steadily growing LOL

Psalm 139:18 If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee.

If the mark means a gospel "famine"....and people can "buy and sell"...how is that a famine?

 

[Ghada]

The mark of Cain 666 is the number God uses to define natural unredeemed mankind in respect to the mark of his word .

Not interested in another book of symbols, rather than the Bible. Thanks, but no thanks.

 

[Ghada]

So, I don't like the words on the paper???

The statement was in general. Not anyone specific. You say to look deeper, and I want to know in what? The Bible?

To be honest I'm not really worried because I won't be here...I'll have been raptured with the rest of the church.

That's the right faith and trust in Jesus Christ, that we can rest in. We are promised trials and tribulations in this life from the wrath of the devil and ungodly men, but we are also promised escape from the righteous wrath of the Lord upon all the earth at His return.

Once in the air, He will first judge His people and resurrect His righteous saints unto Himself in the air. Then follows His righteous wrath upon the inhabitors of the earth that repented not. (Including the unrighteous tares naming His name)

 

[CrowCross]

The statement was in general. Not anyone specific. You say to look deeper, and I want to know in what? The Bible?

I use the bible...do you have a problem with that?

That's the right faith and trust in Jesus Christ, that we can rest in. We are promised trials and tribulations in this life from the wrath of the devil and ungodly men, but we are also promised escape from the righteous wrath of the Lord upon all the earth at His return.

That "escape" is the pre-trib rapture.

Once in the air, He will first judge His people and resurrect His righteous saints unto Himself in the air. Then follows His righteous wrath upon the inhabitors of the earth that repented not. (Including the unrighteous tares naming His name)

What will the judgement be for? I'm saying 1 Cor. 3:10-15

 

[Mr GLee]

Not interested in another book of symbols, rather than the Bible. Thanks, but no thanks.

Another book?

 

[Ghada]

That "escape" is the pre-trib rapture.

Pre tribulation of wrath of God upon the rebellious. Not pretribulation of the wrath of man upon the godly.

Jhn 16:33These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Act 14:22Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

Rom 2:8But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

In these last days, tribulation from man is promised to all the godly saints.

2Ti 3:12Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

After the rapture tribulation from God is promised to all the inhabitors of the earth.

2Th 1:6Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you. And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

 

[Ghada]

What will the judgement be for? I'm saying 1 Cor. 3:10-15

1Co 3:5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.

I Cor 3 is judgment of ministerial works only. Errors of doctrine and ministry are burned away without reward, but the godly soul continues with the Lord. Only the Lord Himself has ever ministered the truth of good things perfectly, without error. Peter was found in the error of ministering dissimulation between Jew and Gentile.

2Co 5:9Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences

2 Cor 5 is the Lord judging the works of His people naming His name, whether we do good or evil. The terror of the Lord is warned also against the believers. God judges all men by our works, without respect of persons, and does not aquit the guilty.

From His judgment seat in the air, the Lord first judges our works to make sure division between His righteous wheat, and the unrighteous tares. Then the ministering of the righteous will be judged for rewards of cities to rule during His millennium. The tares will be appointed to wrath on earth with the rest of the unbelievers.

Eternal justification with God by our faith alone, apart from what we are doing, is self-decievingly false.

Gen 3:4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: {3:5} For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Rom 2:3And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

 

[Ghada]

I think we can look at prophecy, news, technology, etc. to help us present a "window".

Here's 15 off the top of my head.

For example Israel becoming a nation again is one indicator.
The Ezekiel nation alignment is a second. Russia aligning with Iran, Turkey and the other nations mentioned in that text. Sometimes it's hard to convert from the old nation names to the current nation names. Currently those nations appear to be aligned against Israel.
3.....Technology has been developed that would allow for the mark of the Beast to be employed. It's not quite there but almost there.
4....The Gospel pretty much has been preached to the entire world.
5....The NWO, UN as well as the WEF are working on a one world Government.
6....Plans for the new Temple in Israel are well under way.
7....A "peace treaty" known as the Abrahamic accord has been drafted.
8....The "like the days of Noah" is pretty much here. Transhumanism is being developed and rolled out.
9....AI currently is becoming closer to the "singularity. Rev 13:15 may be the singularity.
10...Peole are traveling to and fro..and knowledge is increasing at a startling rate.
11...A one world currency is being established.
12.... UN "peace and security" statue.
13...Many false Churches.
14....Wars and rumors of Wars. Though this seem to have always been happening.
15....Earthquakes in diverse places? I don't know if I would count the many "small" earthquakes but would expect to hear of major earthquakes happening every month or perhaps every week.

Currently we seem to be in that window.

Can anyone add to the list?

Luke 21:28...And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh. KJV

The coming of the Lord and resurrection of His saints was near at the beginning of these last days.

2Th 2:1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

Phl 4:5Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.

Paul could expect to be alive and remaing at His return.

1 Th 4:15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
The coming of the Lord is always near at hand. Which is why we are warned to watch for Him daily. Of course, for them that love His coming, we pray and hope He comes today.

1Jo 2:28And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

 

[Ghada]

Another book?

The one you're writing. There are plenty of symbolic books and fables in the world.

 

[Mr GLee]

The one you're writing. There are plenty of symbolic books and fables in the world.

You you saying the bible is a fable?

 

[CrowCross]

The coming of the Lord and resurrection of His saints was near at the beginning of these last days.

Nope.

 

[Ghada]

You you saying the bible is a fable?

Some people symbolize the Bible into fables.

 

[Mr GLee]

Some people symbolize the Bible into fables.

Why would they do that?

 

[Ghada]

Why would they do that?

Some people prefer lying fables rather than Scripture of truth. So, they say true Scripture is only symbolic, and not true as written.

Some say crossing the Red Sea was only symbolic and not real, and others say a thousand years is really only as a thousand years.

 

[Mr GLee]

If the mark means a gospel "famine"....and people can "buy and sell"...how is that a famine?

The famine is for hearing the gospel God. . Christ not giving his understand of faith, the invisible thigs of God. They remain a powerless mystery.

Buy the gospel

 

[CrowCross]

The famine is for hearing the gospel God. . Christ not giving his understand of faith, the invisible thigs of God. They remain a powerless mystery.

Buy the gospel

Please present scripture to back up that statement....

Once again I ask....because you didn't answer it the first time...Mr. Glee Harris....If the mark means a gospel "famine"....and people can "buy and sell"...how is that a famine?