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The meaning of 666 and its identity

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Revelation 13:16-18
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

In the book Book of Revelation Chapter 13:16–18, the Textus Receptus manuscripts of the New Testament, cryptically asserts 666 to be 'the number of a man' associated with the Beast of revelation.. Some manuscripts of the original Koine Greek use the symbols χξϛ chi xi stigma (or χξϝ with a digamma), while other manuscripts spell out the number in words. But there are a few that try to misdirect or say it is another number or put in the margin that some 'authorities' that 'read Six hundred and sixteen.' or 'one early ms has the letters for 616'

But it is clear that it is 666 and today this has become one of the most widely recognized symbols for the Antichrist. Now the number 666 in and of itself doesn’t mean anything bad. Sometimes something might cost 666 dollars, or someone’s address or phone number might contain the numbers '666' and many other examples. But in the Bible this number does have significance, in the final verse of Revelation 13 we find an identifying clue for the Beast: 'Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred sixty and six.'

So the Bible tells us that this number '666', is the number of a man, symbolized by the first beast of Revelation 13. Notice that “666” is not the “mark of the beast,” but is an identifier, something that helps us to identify who or what that beast is. This Beast is identified elsewhere as Babylon, which brought false worship and confused the people with it. You have to understand that false worship had spread from that to the true God, to the created objects such as the Sun, Moon and Stars. The ancient Babylonian false worship was basically development of star worship of what were created objects they saw. The heavenly bodies were seen as gods and worshipped as a supernatural beings. We find the sun, moon were identified with Shamash, Sin, and the planet Venus with Ishtar, Jupiter was Marduk, Saturn was the war god, Mercury was Nebo, Mars was Nergal, god of the dead as we find in history.

This system of identification was taken over and modified by the Greeks and Romans, using the names of their own deities. But when the Greek sailors and soldiers went to the temples they had to know or identify the "gods" or religious system they were worshiping, so the use of numbers/letter symbols of which "god" the temple was dedicated to or worshipped. We see the same system of identity in use today with the use of symbols on monstrance icons or on books, altars, baptismal fonts, communion hosts, letters which also have numeric meaning.

The use of "IHS" is translated some claim as a symbol for the name of Christ. As Greek has its own alphabet and in it “Jesus” is spelled “ιησυς” and when capitalized it becomes “ΙΗΣΟΥΣ”. The claim is that if you take just the first three letters of this word or “ΙΗΣ” which are the Greek letters “iota”, “eta” and “sigma”. When these letters are converted into modern alphabet it becomes “IHS”. However, no one can explain how these letters came about and their meaning with any certainty or real evidence which "god" they may represent.

The Roman Catholic priests hold up a monstrance during their high mass, and the form of a monstrance is that of a circular window which contain a host, which symbolizes the sun. It is surrounded by a golden rays of the sun emitting all around that circular window which contain "IHS" in the form of a host. This sunburst monstrance with the round host that symbolize the sun encased for the people to adore and venerate and so anytime this pagan sun symbol is viewed by the congregation, they kneel in submission. If you look you find that "IHS" is also the mystery name that the Roman Catholic churches have on their altar, on their vestments, when they say mass. You find this in the definition of "monstrance"...

mon·strance /ˈmänztr(ə)ns/

noun (in the Roman Catholic Church) an open or transparent receptacle in which the consecrated Host is exposed for veneration.

Now only is the symbol also on their host but they claim it becomes or transformed into the actual body of Christ, but we will leave that for another discussion. So letters in Greek had numeric meaning and these letters were used to identify what system of worship or "gods" the temples were dedicated to or followed.

We see in Revelation 13:18: “18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." The thing that throws most people off is when they look just at the "number of the man" 'anthrōpou' or 'of a human being' and then we are given the number which is 666. The number can represent the system of worship and at the same time show it is led by a "human being" not God, so we see how the number can be used to identify this antichrist entity, which at the same time is represented by a man.

Now as many will argue many other names, such as Nero, or Mohammed, or a king of Israel, none of these can be it as they do not fit the things it does or the length of its power, especially when it comes to the timeline which stretches to the end times. But we have to understand what prophecy in Revelation tells us and it gives us clues to follow of this system of worship which is led by a man..
 
We read the following which gives us clues in the first part of the chapter, Revelation 13:1-8...
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

So we see it comes from the vast number of people as it rises from the sea, and "sea" in the Bible, symbolizes "peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues", verse 1.

We see in Revelation 13 verse 2, it is the composite of the four beasts in Daniel 7:1-7...
1 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters. 2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. 3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. 4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it. 5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh. 6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it. 7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

The dragon (or devil) gives it power and authority as we also see back in verse 2 of Revelation 13, "and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.".
It receives a deadly wound, verse 3, "as it were wounded to death" and we see it is healed, "and his deadly wound was healed:".
It is a strong political power, verse 7, "and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.".
It is also a strong religious power, verses 4, 8, "and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?", "And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him".
It is guilty of blasphemy, verses 1, 5, 6, "And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle..".
It wars with and overcomes the saints, verse 7, for "forty and two months"/1260 years, verse 5.

Lets look at clue given by this prophetic time period found in scripture which is the 'forty and two months/1260 years/ time, times and half a time' mentioned in Daniel and Revelation:

Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Daniel 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

If we look back to Daniel we see the word 'time' in this prophetic context refers to a period of a year. In the story of King Nebuchadnezzar, he went crazy for seven years which is given as "seven times" in the text, and humbled and ate grass as an ox as seen in Daniel 4:32:

Daniel 4:32 And they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field: they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and seven times shall pass over thee, until thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.

So in prophetic reading we see the days equal years, so lets look how many days are in a time, times and half a time, it means time (or 1 year), times (or 2 years) and half a time (or 1/2 year) or a total of 3 1/2 years. Most people who look at it would stop at this point and accept the 3 1/2 years only at face value.

But these are prophetic years so each day is a year and 3 1/2 years would be 3 1/2 times a Jewish year of 360 days (360 x 3.5= 1260) so comes out to 1260 days, and a prophetic day equals a year so using the same methodology as is used for the 70 weeks of Daniel we calculate it to actually represent 1260 literal years. So, 'Time, Times and half a Time' in prophecy is really 1260 years. To confirm this formula we need only to look at the book of Revelation.

Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Here the woman represents the faithful church, who flees into the wilderness for 1260 days. Again using the day=year formula, this actually speaks of 1260 years that the church would be persecuted. Now look at verse 14:

Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Here the exact same time of persecution is referred to as 3 1/2 times, again meaning the same period of 1260 days/years as found in verse 6. In the book of Daniel, we saw this exact same period of persecution in church history:

Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

This verse in context is referring to a period of time that the little horn or Antichrist power will persecute the true believers or true church, again for 1260 years. The same is true for the time given "that it shall be for a time, times, and an half" for Daniel 12:7

So why is it not a year equal to 365 days as we hold today? Well in ancient times the year was held to be at 360 days. The fact that the prophets understood a year as 360 days is well attested, and can be seen in the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation as seen in the use of "time, times and half a time" (i.e. 1+2+0.5=3.5), "1,260 days" and "42 months". These references represent a period of 1260 years (based on the 360 day Jewish year multiplied by 3.5). Divide 1,260 days by 42 months and you will get a 30-day month, as 12 months of 30 days equals 360-days in a year

These time periods occur eight times in scripture:
Daniel 7:25, "time, times and a half".
Daniel 9:27, "half one set of seven".
Daniel 12:7, "time, times and a half".
Revelation 11:2, "42 months".
Revelation 11:3, "1260 days".
Revelation 12:6, "1260 days".
Revelation 12:14, "time, times and a half".
Revelation 13:5, "42 months".

We see how the 1260 day-for-year prophecy is found in Daniel 7, 9 and 12 and again in Revelation 11, 12 and again in Revelation 13. so many chapters in the Bible all pointing to that same 1260 year period which today we know as "the dark ages". These "1,260 days" spanned the Middle Ages and so we are given many clues that show us what identifies this antichrist entity, which at the same time is represented by a man. And it clearly it cannot be Nero, or Mohammed, or any of the many others some claim as they do not fit the description or the timeline..
 
Now, Revelation 13 says to calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.

The alphabet of Latin, just like the alphabet of Hebrew and Greek, has numeric values because arithmetic numbers were unknown as these came much later. Now, we do have the title of a man who represents a religious entity that spans this timeline, and we find that numbers do add up to '666'.

Vicarills Filii Dei (Vicar of the Son of God in Latin) or Vicar of Jesus Christ is what he claims to be and the name would obviously apply to the official title of a "man" who, by virtue of his office, and continue on, century after century as we see has happened.

The Annuario Pontificio, the official Vatican yearbook, carries the traditional titles for the Pope, and he still carries the title, although they try to subtly hide it..
 
Hmm, came across a good explanation of who it is...
'Revelation 13:5 says this first beast would also blaspheme God. Luke 5:21 reads, “And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?

Today in the Catholic Church they allege that every Priest has power to forgive sins. Catholic Quote: “To pardon a single sin requires all the omnipotence of God... The Jews justly said: ‘Who can forgive sins but God alone?’ But what only GOD can do by His omnipotence, the PRIEST can ALSO do by saying ‘Ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis’ [I absolve you from your sin].” — Alphonsus de Liguori, Dignity and Duties of the Priest, pages 34-35.

No man on Earth can forgive sins. As for power, Elizabeth I defied the Pope and he sent word to all Catholics in England not to obey the Queen. Henry of Germany offended the Pope and he had to stand barefoot in the snow for three days to pay penance to the Pope before he would forgive him.

The Papacy also regularly make claims to take the place of God on Earth, which is clearly according to the Word of God blasphemous. John 10:33 says, “The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone you not; but for blasphemy; and because that you, being a man, makest thyself God.” As stated previously, the beast makes many blasphemous claims and this is another Biblical definition for blasphemy and criteria for identifying the beast enforcing the mark.

Remember that the apostle John demonstrated that antichrist came from the early Church and he also demonstrated that antichrist was in place of God. Does the Pope put himself in place of Christ, and hence match the definition of antichrist?

We hold upon this earth the place of God almighty.” — Pope Leo XIII, Encyclical Letter, June 20, 1894.

The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, but he is Jesus Christ, Himself, hidden under the veil of human flesh.” — Catholic National, July 1895.

The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth.” — Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Chapter XXVII, p. 218, “Cities Petrus Bertanous.”....

What about this mysterious number 666 that sends a shiver down the spine of so many people when they hear or see it, as they conceive it as being the devils number. Is 666 really the devils number? The book of Revelation says that 666 is the number of his name and that it is the number of a man. Revelation 13:16-18 reads, “And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.” The word translated “count” in the verse eighteen above means to count, compute, calculate or reckon according to the Thayer dictionary.

So 666 is the number of a mans name and Revelation says that this man is the head of this antichrist beast power. Since the beast power is the Papal Church, it is not hard to work out who the most prominent man of this system is. The Pope wears a triple tiered crown which signifies he is the king of Heaven and Earth and Purgatory. This of course is obviously wrong. There is a King of Kings and His name is Jesus Christ our Lord. He is King of Heaven and King of Earth and since there is no purgatory, that one can go to the Bishop of Rome. On the original crown are inscribed the words in Latin, the Papal title “VICARIUS FILII DEI”, which means “Vicar of Christ” or Substitute for Christ, which is synonymous with Antichrist, i.e., assuming the power of God on earth. The literal meaning of each word of this Papal title is as follows: VICARIUS - substituting for, or in place of, FILII - means son and DEI - means God. They now deny that this was ever a Papal title but the evidence though it is no longer blatantly obvious, does still exist. Here is one of their very own quotes.

Question:What are the letters supposed to be in the Pope’s crown, and what do they signify if anything?
Answer:The letters inscribed in the Pope's mitre are these: Vicarius Filii Dei, which is the Latin for Vicar of the Son of God. Catholics hold that the Church which is a visible society must have a visible head. Christ, before His ascension into heaven, appointed St. Peter to act as His representative. Upon the death of Peter the man who succeeded to the office of Peter as Bishop of Rome, was recognized as the head of the Church. Hence to the Bishop of Rome, as head of the Church, was given the title ‘Vicar of Christ.’ Enemies of the Papacy denounce this title as a malicious assumption. But the Bible informs us that Christ did not only give His Church authority to teach, but also to rule. Laying claim to the authority to rule in Christ’s spiritual kingdom, in Christ’s stead, is not a whit more malicious than laying claim to the authority to teach in Christ’s name. And this every Christian minister does.” — Our Sunday Visitor, (Catholic Weekly), April 18, 1915, thirteenth question under "Bureau of Information,” p. 3, (on page 2 appears “sanctions for the editor” from Pope Pius X, dated May 17, 1914; from the Apostolic Delegate, John Bonzano, dated April 27, 1913; and from J. H. Alerding, Bishop of Fort Wayne, Ind., dated March 29, 1912).... 666 The Mark Of The Beast - Page 2
 
Hmm, came across a good explanation of who it is...
'Revelation 13:5 says this first beast would also blaspheme God. Luke 5:21 reads, “And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?

Today in the Catholic Church they allege that every Priest has power to forgive sins. Catholic Quote: “To pardon a single sin requires all the omnipotence of God... The Jews justly said: ‘Who can forgive sins but God alone?’ But what only GOD can do by His omnipotence, the PRIEST can ALSO do by saying ‘Ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis’ [I absolve you from your sin].” — Alphonsus de Liguori, Dignity and Duties of the Priest, pages 34-35.

No man on Earth can forgive sins. As for power, Elizabeth I defied the Pope and he sent word to all Catholics in England not to obey the Queen. Henry of Germany offended the Pope and he had to stand barefoot in the snow for three days to pay penance to the Pope before he would forgive him.

The Papacy also regularly make claims to take the place of God on Earth, which is clearly according to the Word of God blasphemous. John 10:33 says, “The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone you not; but for blasphemy; and because that you, being a man, makest thyself God.” As stated previously, the beast makes many blasphemous claims and this is another Biblical definition for blasphemy and criteria for identifying the beast enforcing the mark.

Remember that the apostle John demonstrated that antichrist came from the early Church and he also demonstrated that antichrist was in place of God. Does the Pope put himself in place of Christ, and hence match the definition of antichrist?

We hold upon this earth the place of God almighty.” — Pope Leo XIII, Encyclical Letter, June 20, 1894.

The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, but he is Jesus Christ, Himself, hidden under the veil of human flesh.” — Catholic National, July 1895.

The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth.” — Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Chapter XXVII, p. 218, “Cities Petrus Bertanous.”....

What about this mysterious number 666 that sends a shiver down the spine of so many people when they hear or see it, as they conceive it as being the devils number. Is 666 really the devils number? The book of Revelation says that 666 is the number of his name and that it is the number of a man. Revelation 13:16-18 reads, “And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.” The word translated “count” in the verse eighteen above means to count, compute, calculate or reckon according to the Thayer dictionary.

So 666 is the number of a mans name and Revelation says that this man is the head of this antichrist beast power. Since the beast power is the Papal Church, it is not hard to work out who the most prominent man of this system is. The Pope wears a triple tiered crown which signifies he is the king of Heaven and Earth and Purgatory. This of course is obviously wrong. There is a King of Kings and His name is Jesus Christ our Lord. He is King of Heaven and King of Earth and since there is no purgatory, that one can go to the Bishop of Rome. On the original crown are inscribed the words in Latin, the Papal title “VICARIUS FILII DEI”, which means “Vicar of Christ” or Substitute for Christ, which is synonymous with Antichrist, i.e., assuming the power of God on earth. The literal meaning of each word of this Papal title is as follows: VICARIUS - substituting for, or in place of, FILII - means son and DEI - means God. They now deny that this was ever a Papal title but the evidence though it is no longer blatantly obvious, does still exist. Here is one of their very own quotes.

Question:What are the letters supposed to be in the Pope’s crown, and what do they signify if anything?
Answer:The letters inscribed in the Pope's mitre are these: Vicarius Filii Dei, which is the Latin for Vicar of the Son of God. Catholics hold that the Church which is a visible society must have a visible head. Christ, before His ascension into heaven, appointed St. Peter to act as His representative. Upon the death of Peter the man who succeeded to the office of Peter as Bishop of Rome, was recognized as the head of the Church. Hence to the Bishop of Rome, as head of the Church, was given the title ‘Vicar of Christ.’ Enemies of the Papacy denounce this title as a malicious assumption. But the Bible informs us that Christ did not only give His Church authority to teach, but also to rule. Laying claim to the authority to rule in Christ’s spiritual kingdom, in Christ’s stead, is not a whit more malicious than laying claim to the authority to teach in Christ’s name. And this every Christian minister does.” — Our Sunday Visitor, (Catholic Weekly), April 18, 1915, thirteenth question under "Bureau of Information,” p. 3, (on page 2 appears “sanctions for the editor” from Pope Pius X, dated May 17, 1914; from the Apostolic Delegate, John Bonzano, dated April 27, 1913; and from J. H. Alerding, Bishop of Fort Wayne, Ind., dated March 29, 1912).... 666 The Mark Of The Beast - Page 2
Most from my experience do not distinguish the word sign from a mark. The wiles of the devil. What God calls separate he brings it as one Or what God calls one he multiples (legion) , Satn kings of lying signs to wonder after. His only voice (the man of sin) that works in false apostles false prophets that bring the oral traditions of the legion of fathers, dying mankind.

t's a evil generation 666 the number of man created on the 6th day. . natural unconverted mankind as a beast of the field of clay that seeks after a sign rather than prophecy . God's signature)

No sign to wonder after was given. Believers have prophecy sealed till the end of time . Nothing can be added or taken away (sola scriptura)

The last sign (not mark) was the sign of Jonah that shadow was fulfilled during the the three day and night promised demonstration.

Matthew 12:3 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation (666)seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

Luke 11:29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation:(666) they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.

The word sign as something the eyes see is used once in Revelation along the word mark . The word mark 8 times.

Revelation 15: 1-2 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name( 666 the evil faithless generation) , stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

The word mark used the first time as the standard throughout the Bible in Genesis is the mark of His word . Not the visual sign of his word. His word is the sign that God spoke .

The mark . What he says comes to pass the law of faith ."let there be" and it was very "God alone good"

Genesis 4:15 And the Lord said unto him(666) , Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain(666) , vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain (666) , lest any finding him(666) should kill him(666).
 
Notice that “666” is not the “mark of the beast,” but is an identifier
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image.

Notice that 666 is the mark of the beast. In order to teach the Bible accurately, we must always stay faithful to the Bible words.


This Beast is identified elsewhere as Babylon,
Once again, we shouldn't teach the Bible with personal conjecture, that is not written in the Bible.

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

The beast is a man with the number of a man. He is the first man cast into the LOF before Satan. And is cast in alive without resurrection unto judgment.

He is not a city, nor is he ever called nor named Babylon.

And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.


That great city Babylon is Jerusalem, that is spiritually Sodom and Egypt. The great Mother Babylon is the ministry and religion that whores the ministry of God and of Christ.

We see in Revelation 13:18: “18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." The thing that throws most people off is when they look just at the "number of the man" 'anthrōpou' or 'of a human being' and then we are given the number which is 666. The number can represent the system of worship and at the same time show it is led by a "human being" not God, so we see how the number can be used to identify this antichrist entity, which at the same time is represented by a man.
It is the religion of man that unrepented sinful man makes to justify himself with God. It never rises above 6 to the heavenly place of 7 with God.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Whether by natural blood, flesh, or will of man, man justifying himself will always end in a flat 666... Like beating one's head against an iron roof:

And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass:

Now as many will argue many other names, such as Nero, or Mohammed, or a king of Israel, none of these can be it as they do not fit the things it does or the length of its power, especially when it comes to the timeline which stretches to the end times. But we have to understand what prophecy in Revelation tells us and it gives us clues to follow of this system of worship which is led by a man..
The beast that wars with the saints of God is an antichrist false apostle of Christ, to deceive the unrepented with justification, and to seduce the repented to return to unrighteousness.

There have been many such false christs come and go since the resurrection of Jesus Christ, but last great one before the Lord's return will be truly worldwide in it's 'ministerial' outreach and power of rulers and nations and peoples of the earth.

(P.s. Maybe I should have waited for someone else to past first. Rather than being #6, I'd be #7)
 
No man on Earth can forgive sins.
Jn 20: 21-23 [Jesus] said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.”

And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the holy Spirit.

Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them
, and whose sins you retain are retained.”

 
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image.

Notice that 666 is the mark of the beast. In order to teach the Bible accurately, we must always stay faithful to the Bible words.



Once again, we shouldn't teach the Bible with personal conjecture, that is not written in the Bible.

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

The beast is a man with the number of a man. He is the first man cast into the LOF before Satan. And is cast in alive without resurrection unto judgment.

He is not a city, nor is he ever called nor named Babylon.

And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.


That great city Babylon is Jerusalem, that is spiritually Sodom and Egypt. The great Mother Babylon is the ministry and religion that whores the ministry of God and of Christ.


It is the religion of man that unrepented sinful man makes to justify himself with God. It never rises above 6 to the heavenly place of 7 with God.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Whether by natural blood, flesh, or will of man, man justifying himself will always end in a flat 666... Like beating one's head against an iron roof:

And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass:


The beast that wars with the saints of God is an antichrist false apostle of Christ, to deceive the unrepented with justification, and to seduce the repented to return to unrighteousness.

There have been many such false christs come and go since the resurrection of Jesus Christ, but last great one before the Lord's return will be truly worldwide in it's 'ministerial' outreach and power of rulers and nations and peoples of the earth.

(P.s. Maybe I should have waited for someone else to past first. Rather than being #6, I'd be #7)
The antichrist entity is the Beast and is shown as Babylon which is the same entity and came out of the Roman Empire and will continue to the end, where it will go into perdition..
 
Depending on the version - the Koran has 6,666 verses in it. The mark is imposed upon Muslims and limited to the coming mid eastern Islamic Caliphate. This is what I think it is...

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Scripture doesnt support that, so not sure where you are going with that..
 
You have to understand that in interpreting the symbolism of Revelation, you must first grasp of all the meaning of the symbolism to the people of that time. Most dont make any attempt to understand the meaning of the symbolism to the original readers for whom Revelation was written. Revelation was written to encourage Christians of what would becoming and they should expect and to remain faithful even with all the things that were prophesized, and history shows the timeline and now we have come to the end, and the Second Coming.
 
Jn 20: 21-23 [Jesus] said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.”

And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the holy Spirit.

Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them
, and whose sins you retain are retained.”
Peter the Pope breathed on them the breath of eternal life ?

Or when our Holy eternal Father the invisible head breathed on them born agin spirit life? Living God or dying mankind?

Its not Popes breathing in life into dead Popes. like the Pope Formosa Cadaver trial . Found guilty and dead bone were passed around the circuit to be venerated . Call no man on earth a legion of Holy Fathers Holy Sees, or patron saint gods > One in our unseen head. Eternal God not seen
 
Christ did.... and the apostles had the power to bind/loose; forgive sins
We know that is impossible. . earthly inspired of the god of this world turning thing upside down. not inspired by the Potter but the clay.

Same thing some of the Jewish fathers did took away the understanding of the Potter and venerating the lifeless clay.

James 3:15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.

Peter knew what spirit words of life meant. No such thing as dying flesh of eternal life. Flesh without the spirit life of Christ is dead it has no power.

John6:68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

Again, Peter the Pope breathed on them the breath of eternal life ? Or our unseen eternal head the Holy Father.?
 
nothing is impossible with Christ
Yes, he empowers his church the bride. Strengthening her to do his good will daily.

It's not possible to violate his own law as it is written (sola scriptura) He himself is subject to his written law. He magnifies his living word above all his attributes.as names

Yes, nothing is impossible for Christ the true invisible head of His church His bride. He warns us of those who would seduce us to believe we need dying mankind to teach us His promise to come teach, guide comfort and bring to our memory the previous things he has taught that labor of his love is still working out our daily bread. Father not our will but your powerful will. The "let there be", and it was "faithfully God alone good "

Can Peter breath into the dead giving them newborn again spirit life? Or did he die thousands of years ago and awaits the new incorruptible bodies as new creators neither man of woman, Jew not Gentile.?
 
Finally, we agree on something (y) 😁

AMEN!

Then come out of her! Come join the only Church Christ established, His Catholic Church.
The church he established remains. He is the invisible head. The one Creator remains without form as a creation.

Those who sought after a hierarchy of venerable men to establish their own government of dying mankind. as a law of the fathers.They tried to prove that all things written in the law and the prophets(sola scriptura) was a heresy and their heresy the true law of men Murdering torturing men and woman that would not venerate the high Priest or Pope

Acts 24:13-14 Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me. But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the: prophets

Rather than worshiping a legion of dying fathers some call patron saints. Born again Paul worshiped the one unseen Holy
Father. The one God of the true born-again fathers and not the legion of fathers as if they were one.

There would seem to be no defense against the living word of our living God, the sword of His Spirit sola scriptura.
 
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