The meaning of 666 and its identity

[Hobie]

Peter the Pope breathed on them the breath of eternal life ?

Or when our Holy eternal Father the invisible head breathed on them born agin spirit life? Living God or dying mankind?

Its not Popes breathing in life into dead Popes. like the Pope Formosa Cadaver trial . Found guilty and dead bone were passed around the circuit to be venerated . Call no man on earth a legion of Holy Fathers Holy Sees, or patron saint gods > One in our unseen head. Eternal God not seen

Remember, this 'Pope' who Christ rebuked saying 'Get behind me Satan' also denied His Saviour, and not just a little.

 

[TATII]

Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Here the woman represents the faithful church, who flees into the wilderness for 1260 days. Again using the day=year formula, this actually speaks of 1260 years that the church would be persecuted. Now look at verse 14:

Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

I read it all...some of it more than once...theses a lot to take in...you have spent a considerable amount of time on these things...your learning.

How is it that you came up with the "woman" representing "the faithful church?" and Perhaps you can clarify "faithful church?"

The reason I ask is...in the preceding verse 5 "she" had just given birth to "a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne."

It's just that this "woman" in giving birth to that which "is caught up to God and His throne" looks to have been separated from "her child" who went to God?

She went to the "wilderness" and the dragon followed her and attacked her...it was the "earth" that helped her...I liked your definition of the "sea" as people nations etc...who is the "earth?"

Tatwo...

 

[Hobie]

I read it all...some of it more than once...theses a lot to take in...you have spent a considerable amount of time on these things...your learning.

How is it that you came up with the "woman" representing "the faithful church?" and Perhaps you can clarify "faithful church?"

The reason I ask is...in the preceding verse 5 "she" had just given birth to "a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne."

It's just that this "woman" in giving birth to that which "is caught up to God and His throne" looks to have been separated from "her child" who went to God?

She went to the "wilderness" and the dragon followed her and attacked her...it was the "earth" that helped her...I liked your definition of the "sea" as people nations etc...who is the "earth?"

Tatwo...

It was where the religious persecuted went to, the freedom of religious beliefs as we find in history given by the New World.

 

[TATII]

It was where the religious persecuted went to, the freedom of religious beliefs as we find in history given by the New World.

Forgive me Hobie...I just cannot see how your response answers or addresses any of my questions?

Tatwo...

 

[TATII]

Peter trained him well....

I am sure Paul would give Peter some credit for working with him...however Paul wrote this.

"Boasting is necessary, though it is not profitable; but I will go on to visions and revelations of the Lord. I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago--whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know, God knows--such a man was caught up to the third heaven. And I know how such a man--whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, God knows-- was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which a man is not permitted to speak. On behalf of such a man I will boast; but on my own behalf I will not boast, except in regard to my weaknesses. For if I do wish to boast I will not be foolish, for I will be speaking the truth; but I refrain from this, so that no one will credit me with more than he sees in me or hears from me. Because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations, for this reason, to keep me from exalting myself, there was given me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to torment me--to keep me from exalting myself!" (2Co 12:1-7 NASB)

Paul was at one point taken to heaven and shown, revealed and taught by the Lord directly as well.

Tatwo...

 

[Arch Stanton]

I am sure Paul would give Peter some credit for working with him...however Paul wrote this.

"Boasting is necessary, though it is not profitable; but I will go on to visions and revelations of the Lord. I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago--whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know, God knows--such a man was caught up to the third heaven. And I know how such a man--whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, God knows-- was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which a man is not permitted to speak. On behalf of such a man I will boast; but on my own behalf I will not boast, except in regard to my weaknesses. For if I do wish to boast I will not be foolish, for I will be speaking the truth; but I refrain from this, so that no one will credit me with more than he sees in me or hears from me. Because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations, for this reason, to keep me from exalting myself, there was given me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to torment me--to keep me from exalting myself!" (2Co 12:1-7 NASB)

Paul was at one point taken to heaven and shown, revealed and taught by the Lord directly as well.

Tatwo...

Paul spent about 15 days with Peter to learn ....

 

[Mr GLee]

You have to understand that in interpreting the symbolism of Revelation, you must first grasp of all the meaning of the symbolism to the people of that time. Most dont make any attempt to understand the meaning of the symbolism to the original readers for whom Revelation was written. Revelation was written to encourage Christians of what would becoming and they should expect and to remain faithful even with all the things that were prophesized, and history shows the timeline and now we have come to the end, and the Second Coming.

More of the people of all times . Not time sensitive

The opening instruction on the manner of interpretation Is "signified" Using the temporal thing seen the historical as sign of the unseen eternal

Some literalize the whole book losing the hidden gospel understanding of parables or called hidden manna 2:17

.Revelation 1King James VersionThe Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John

 

[Mr GLee]

Indeed....He has kept His promises.

You must be talking about man-made religions of the sixteenth century.

Peter trained him well....

Peter trained him really well, showed him how to rebuke the invisible head Christ and forbid the Son of man Jesus from doing the will of the one Holy Father (Not a legion of Holy Fathers as oral tradition of dying mankind )

Why not chose the Son of man, Jesus the apostle sent with the gospel.? Go figure?

Havening faith as power or labor of Emanuel love in respect Christ yoked with believers. . . . . . . . would seem to make more Godly sense. I believe. Chose Jesus the Son of man not Pertee a son of man

Peter our brother in the lord was forgiven of his blasphemy against the Son of Man Jesus.

Mathew 16:22;23 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men

Peter our brother in the lord learned that over and over. Have faith in respect to the one the unseen eternal. not the patron legion seen, dying mankind

One source of faith or power God not the dying creature.

 

[Tambora]

Since there are several theories about the meaning of 666 and what sort of person it represents, I will give another one of the many.

The only other place in scripture that 666 shows up is connected to a name of someone is Solomon:

1 Kings 10:14 NET​

Solomon received 666 talents of gold per year,​

And it's corresponding verse:

2 Chronicles 9:13 NET​

Solomon received 666 talents of gold per year,​

Solomon wasn't suppose to do that.

Laws Concerning Israel's Kings​

Deuteronomy 17:17 NET​

Furthermore, he must not marry many wives lest his affections turn aside, and he must not accumulate much silver and gold.​

The beast, an apostate ruler.
Solomon, an apostate ruler that set up idols for worship.
Not meaning that the beast is some sort of reincarnation of Solomon himself, but just showing it as an equivalent to an apostate ruler.

Interesting that this 666 was the breaking of a law, and it was phylacteries that were worn on the forehead of priests to remind them to keep the law.


Just another theory to add to the pile.

 

[Mr GLee]

Since there are several theories about the meaning of 666 and what sort of person it represents, I will give another one of the many.

The only other place in scripture that 666 shows up is connected to a name of someone is Solomon:

1 Kings 10:14 NET​

Solomon received 666 talents of gold per year,​

And it's corresponding verse:

2 Chronicles 9:13 NET​

Solomon received 666 talents of gold per year,​

Solomon wasn't suppose to do that.

Laws Concerning Israel's Kings​

Deuteronomy 17:17 NET​

Furthermore, he must not marry many wives lest his affections turn aside, and he must not accumulate much silver and gold.​

The beast, an apostate ruler.
Solomon, an apostate ruler that set up idols for worship.
Not meaning that the beast is some sort of reincarnation of Solomon himself, but just showing it as an equivalent to an apostate ruler.

Interesting that this 666 was the breaking of a law, and it was phylacteries that were worn on the forehead of priests to remind them to keep the law.


Just another theory to add to the pile.

I would offer the same to add

First and foremost we are warned to not seek after signs before one exercises faith (the unseen things) We have prophecy till the end of time.

Revelation calls it the mark of the beast. . not the same as a sign. Mark used nine times in revelation . . like. . mark my word what I say comes to pass. The law of faith .Let there be and it as perfect.


The word sign used once in Revelation in respect to a vision or dream

Revelation 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.


Mankind, beast of the field created on day six . Three denotes the end of a matter Just as seven . perfect. Holy, Holy, Holy .

Genesis 4:15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

They would get the same death sentence suffer the pains of sin as a lifer with no early parole. Unlike Abel yoked with Christ He made the daily burden lighter with a future hope beyond the grave. Same promise we have today.

Obey the loving. living commandment. . . beleive

The father of lies a murderer from that very beginning .( Cain) I know not where my Brother is? Did you check the corn field ?

 

[TMSO]

I will have to break this up. The more important part will be the part that covers the time, times and half a time...

So we see it comes from the vast number of people as it rises from the sea, and "sea" in the Bible, symbolizes "peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues", verse 1.

[Verses removed simply due to length of comment. The point you made is what is dealt with here.]
Yes, so it is a person. Notice how this person speaks great things and blasphemies. Given that we know this to be a person who comes out of the world, it should be obvious that we aren't dealing with thousands of years, or even hundreds. What are we given? Time, times and a half, the middle of the week to the end of the week, and 42 months. Considering it is a person, the weren't alive for thousands of years. Going with 3 1/2 years is the only interpretation that makes sense given that even Revelation states that it is a person, a human being. God was very clear when He declared the span of man's days to be 120 years.
Note how he blasphemes God, his name, his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. This is important when looking at the 70 weeks of Daniel as well.

We see in Revelation 13 verse 2, it is the composite of the four beasts in Daniel 7:1-7...
1 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters. 2 Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. 3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. 4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it. 5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh. 6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it. 7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

When you consider what is said about the beast above, it is actually analogous to the fourth beast of Daniel, which had no description other then that it was dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly. So it is possible that the fourth beast was a composite of the others that Daniel could not/did not describe in beastly terms as the other three beasts. These four beasts are God's view of Nebuchadnezzar's greatness and the four great empires of Earth. The statue is man's view of the greatness of Nebuchadnezzar and the strength, beauty, and awesomness of man's great empires.

The gold head is Nebuchadnezzar. What is said of the first beast? "I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it." This is a direct prophecy of what God did to Nebuchadnezzar for exhalting himself as a god. God made him human. God humbled him.
The bear raised on one side. The Persian part of the Medo-Persian Empire was greater then the Medes. And the statue has two arms, which speaks to a two part empire. The Persians and the Medes.
The beast that is like a leopard with four wings of a fowl speaks to the swiftness of Alexander establishing his kingdom, the Greek empire that followed the Medo-Persian Empire. And the four heads? When Alexander the Great died, the empire was divided amongst his four generals.
Then you have Rome, the iron legs. Two legs. The Roman Empire was two parts, the Eastern and the Western part. The Eastern Roman Empire did not cease until 1453 AD. We haven't even gotten to the iron and ceramic of the feet and ten toes.
The resurgence, rebirth of the Roman Empire with ten toes. Back in the 1980s, it was believed to be the Common European Market or something like that because the Roman Empire was in Europe, and by the early/mid 1980s, it was made up of ten European countries.

The dragon (or devil) gives it power and authority as we also see back in verse 2 of Revelation 13, "and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.".
It receives a deadly wound, verse 3, "as it were wounded to death" and we see it is healed, "and his deadly wound was healed:".
It is a strong political power, verse 7, "and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.".
It is also a strong religious power, verses 4, 8, "and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?", "And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him".
It is guilty of blasphemy, verses 1, 5, 6, "And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle..".
It wars with and overcomes the saints, verse 7, for "forty and two months"/1260 years, verse 5.

How does this beast, who you agree is a person, live for 1260 years? When you read what is said of the ten horns, it is again clear that it speaks of people. And Revelation makes it clear that the beast itself is a king, is a person.

Revelation 17 "7 And the angel said to me, “Why [g]do you wonder? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns."

"8 “The beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to come up out of the abyss and [h]go to destruction. " What does that mean, come up out of the abyss? Why is it at this time that this beast is about to come up out of the abyss? That speaks of demonic power. Demons and Satan. It speaks to the unveiling and presentation of the Antichrist in full view, in full demonic presentation/power. Satan, through the beast, is about to go off on the blasphemous tirade that Daniel speaks about. What is the greatest blasphemy a man can commit? Claim to be God. Hence the priests and leaders saying Jesus was being blasphemous because only God forgives sin, or when they say that Jesus claimed to be one with God, that is, that Jesus is God. (He is, but they didn't believe it, so they brought up accusations of blasphemy.)

"The seven heads are seven mountains upon which the woman sits, 10 and they are seven kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. 11 The beast which was, and is not, is himself also an eighth and is one of the seven, and he goes to destruction."
Rome has seven mountains. Note that here the beast is clearly stated to be a person, an eight king, and one of the seven. So, again... Roman, or one from among the revived Roman Empire. And he goes to destruction, just as the one mentioned in the middle of Daniel's 70th week goes to destruction.

Daniel 9:27 "...but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of [af]abominations will come the one who [ag]makes desolate, until a complete destruction, one that is [ah]decreed, gushes forth on the one who [ai]makes desolate.” Due note that the time from when the abomination of desolation occurs here, and the destruction gushes forth on the one who makes desolate is a time, times, and half a time. 42 months. 3 1/2 years.

"12 The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. 13 These have one [j]purpose, and they give their power and authority to the beast."

So the one beast is basically the new Emperor/Caesar as the ten kings in the revived Roman Empire give their power and authority to this one king. This is all important. More in the next comment to finish this out.

 

[TMSO]

Lets look at clue given by this prophetic time period found in scripture which is the 'forty and two months/1260 years/ time, times and half a time' mentioned in Daniel and Revelation:

To keep this within message constraints lets list the clues:
1. time, times and half a time - the time the Beast has to persecute Israel before Jesus bring in His kingdom and the world ends.
2. 1260 days - Conveniently the same as time, times and half a time.
3. 42 months - Conveniently the same as time, times and half a time.
These are clues to future prophecy. So, what does the decoder ring say about decoding this time, times, and half a time?

Nebuchadnezzar was made a beast for seven years. Seven...LITERAL...years. What was this decoded from? A prophecy that says it would be for seven times. (Seven times will pass.) So, this would say that seven times = seven literal years. That means that time in the singular equates to one literal year. So, going back to the clues above, we have year, years and half a year. It is understood that this, due to Nebechadnezzar giving us the decryption key, means 3 1/2 years. How about 1260 days? Conveniently, this is 3 1/2 years. What about 42 months? Conveniently, this is also 3 1/2 years.

So... going with that, one would say that time, times and half a time, 1260 days, and 42 months are all synonymous, are all the same measurement, unless there is visible evidence to the contrary. Why? Since they are all used of basically the same prophecy, and they all equate to the same measure of 3 1/2 years. If you want to say it is different, you have to prove that your interpretation fits reality. So, the persecution of the church would begin at the moment of Christ's ascension, and end 1260 years later. No more persecution of the church. And the church would never be persecuted again. (You have to consider the Old Testament prophecies about the beast that put the end of all evil, destruction, attacks, at the end of the time, times, and half a time, 1260 days, or 42 months. The world is over at that point. So, how would you reinterpret the 1260 days, considering the world has obviously not ended yet, and it is almost 2000 years later, which is greater then 1260 years. The church is STILL being persecuted today. If that isn't enough to say that God is faithful and speaks only truth in prophecy, and that your interpretation leaves much to be desired, then I would ask you... What right do we have to attack prophets today, if God, when He speaks for Himself, is not direct, perfect, and to the point? Why can't they say, well... prophecy is fluid and not perfect. We didn't interpret it properly. Even though it didn't occur as stated, doesn't mean that the prophecy wasn't fulfilled in a different interpretation. The best explanation (by which I mean the worst) given by a modern day prophet is that Satan thwarted God's spoken word. It is the best explanation of where their heart truly lies.

Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Now, consider that next to Daniel 9. What happens in the middle of the 70th week? He changes times and laws. The sacrifice is ended. And what happens at this point and following? "They shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time." This is exactly what is see in the 70 weeks prophecy for the last half of the 70th week. Why are they only given into his hand for that time frame? He is DESTROYED at the end of the 70th week, obviously ending the time of them begin given into his hand. I love how God deals with loose ends.

Daniel 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

A better translation says taht after he accomplishes what he is doing, these things that he is doing shall be finished. So, if this speaks to persecution of the church for 1260 days/years, then after that 1260 days/years all persecution of the church ends. ALL...PERSECUTION...OF...THE...CHURCH...ENDS exactly 1260 days/years after it starts. Is that what we see today?

Revelation 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

This is not the persecution of the church. Revelation 12 does a very good job of defining who this woman is. It is Israel. Five or six different ways are used to say... this is Israel. And this is related to the 1260 days from earlier, which is related to the Great Tribulation Jesus mentions, when He tells them to FLEE to the mountains/wilderness. FLEE. FLY. Leave before you are destroyed in the greatest Great Tribulation to come. God has prepared a place for the Jews to flee during the Great Tribulation. Who is it that is attacked during this time? Those who didn't join them. Believers who did not join them.

These time periods occur eight times in scripture:
Daniel 7:25, "time, times and a half".
Daniel 9:27, "half one set of seven".
Daniel 12:7, "time, times and a half".
Revelation 11:2, "42 months".
Revelation 11:3, "1260 days".
Revelation 12:6, "1260 days".
Revelation 12:14, "time, times and a half".
Revelation 13:5, "42 months".

We see how the 1260 day-for-year prophecy is found in Daniel 7, 9 and 12 and again in Revelation 11, 12 and again in Revelation 13. so many chapters in the Bible all pointing to that same 1260 year period which today we know as "the dark ages". These "1,260 days" spanned the Middle Ages and so we are given many clues that show us what identifies this antichrist entity, which at the same time is represented by a man. And it clearly it cannot be Nero, or Mohammed, or any of the many others some claim as they do not fit the description or the timeline..

The question you need to ask yourself: Do you see God as precise and true when scripture says "Thus saith the Lord:" Is He being truthful? Can we set our watches by God's word? If we consider God's word as German's consider time, does God's train run on time? Is it off by a minute, or perhaps centuries? If we can literally set our clock by Nebuchadnezzar and his "7 times pass", because the passing of 7 times is literally, exactly, 7 years, how can we not set our clock by time, times, and half a time, as 3 1/2 years? Are you trying to present the case that God, when He speaks, is arbitrary? He gave us Cyrus name as one who would give the first decree to Israel before he came around. They didn't know who he was, except that God said it would be this guy, and here is his name. Is it still impossible to accept the fact that God's words, when they come from His mouth, are precise?

So your challenge. Show when the 1260 years start (I know when it would have to start, so you aren't going to put one past me on that), and show that all the prophecies say about this time frame happened during that time frame, and came to a complete end at the time of that time frame.) God is clear more then once, that everything that is happening during the time from ends when the time ends. VERY clear.

To be clear, Revelation 12 gives us a time that it starts, IF we believe it is 1260 years. I, on the other hand, understand that it is John again, defining who the woman is.

 

[Mr GLee]

The question you need to ask yourself: Do you see God as precise and true when scripture says "Thus saith the Lord:" Is He being truthful? Can we set our watches by God's word? If we consider God's word as German's consider time, does God's train run on time? Is it off by a minute, or perhaps centuries? If we can literally set our clock by Nebuchadnezzar and his "7 times pass", because the passing of 7 times is literally, exactly, 7 years, how can we not set our clock by time, times, and half a time, as 3 1/2 years? Are you trying to present the case that God, when He speaks, is arbitrary? He gave us Cyrus name as one who would give the first decree to Israel before he came around. They didn't know who he was, except that God said it would be this guy, and here is his name. Is it still impossible to accept the fact that God's words, when they come from His mouth, are precise?

So your challenge. Show when the 1260 years start (I know when it would have to start, so you aren't going to put one past me on that), and show that all the prophecies say about this time frame happened during that time frame, and came to a complete end at the time of that time frame.) God is clear more then once, that everything that is happening during the time from ends when the time ends. VERY clear.

To be clear, Revelation 12 gives us a time that it starts, IF we believe it is 1260 years. I, on the other hand, understand that it is John again, defining who the woman is.

Gods word is supernatural. He finished doing al the work in six days and rested on the 7th The rest we have to day if he hear his voice and not harden our hearts and resist the power of the Holy Spirit . . . he who has not form dwells outside of time

No sign was given to wonder after. . when, where why?

We have prohecy till the end of time

Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation (666) seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

 

[TMSO]

Gods word is supernatural. He finished doing al the work in six days and rested on the 7th The rest we have to day if he hear his voice and not harden our hearts and resist the power of the Holy Spirit . . . he who has not form dwells outside of time

No sign was given to wonder after. . when, where why?

We have prohecy till the end of time

Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation (666) seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

That 666 is not there...

 

[Mr GLee]

That 666 is not there...

Of course it is the number of the beast of the field mankind created on day 6 (666) three time denotes the end of a matter .

The mark of Cain (666) as a mark (not a sign ) Mark his living word whatsoever Christ says comes to pass.

" let there be" and it was invisible "God alone good"

Sign used 2 times in Revelation mark (666) 9 times no signs were given. It a evil generation (666) that does seek after one

Genesis 4:10-15 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand; When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark (666. . not a sign ) upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

 

[TMSO]

Of course it is the number of the beast of the field mankind created on day 6 (666) three time denotes the end of a matter .

The mark of Cain (666) as a mark (not a sign ) Mark his living word whatsoever Christ says comes to pass.

" let there be" and it was invisible "God alone good"

Sign used 2 times in Revelation mark (666) 9 times no signs were given. It a evil generation (666) that does seek after one

Genesis 4:10-15 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand; When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark (666. . not a sign ) upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

Please stop adding to scripture.

 

[Hobie]

Most from my experience do not distinguish the word sign from a mark. The wiles of the devil. What God calls separate he brings it as one Or what God calls one he multiples (legion) , Satn kings of lying signs to wonder after. His only voice (the man of sin) that works in false apostles false prophets that bring the oral traditions of the legion of fathers, dying mankind.

t's a evil generation 666 the number of man created on the 6th day. . natural unconverted mankind as a beast of the field of clay that seeks after a sign rather than prophecy . God's signature)

No sign to wonder after was given. Believers have prophecy sealed till the end of time . Nothing can be added or taken away (sola scriptura)

The last sign (not mark) was the sign of Jonah that shadow was fulfilled during the the three day and night promised demonstration.

Matthew 12:3 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation (666)seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

Luke 11:29 And when the people were gathered thick together, he began to say, This is an evil generation:(666) they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet.

The word sign as something the eyes see is used once in Revelation along the word mark . The word mark 8 times.

Revelation 15: 1-2 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name( 666 the evil faithless generation) , stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

The word mark used the first time as the standard throughout the Bible in Genesis is the mark of His word . Not the visual sign of his word. His word is the sign that God spoke .

The mark . What he says comes to pass the law of faith ."let there be" and it was very "God alone good"

Genesis 4:15 And the Lord said unto him(666) , Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain(666) , vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain (666) , lest any finding him(666) should kill him(666).

It seems you have gone more into private interpretation than a understanding of truth, as that is not the view of Bible scholars to say the least..

 

[Mr GLee]

It seems you have gone more into private interpretation than a understanding of truth, as that is not the view of Bible scholars to say the least..

Hi ..Thanks

Not a salvation issue more how can we hear and understand the power of invisible God as it is written

I am not that kind of scholar far from it. Not a reader. I hated school as a slower learner . . . back of the 1963 class ZZZZZ.

Private interpretation personal commentary of what one believes to be true, opinion, heresy, sect.. .A must, the kingdom does not come by looking at dying things

Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

When reading scripture at 33 years . Spiritual unseen things of Christ started to make sense. . called the milk of the word. Teaching us God is gracious to slower learners. Living, loving words began I believe teaching comforting and bringing to memory the previous things. Miracle believe God not seen

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

He also lovingly warns us of false apostles bringing false prophecy oral traditions of dying mankind. (antichrists legion ) another teaching authority other than sola scriptura.

Keep in mind Satan the king of lying signs to wonder after is busy trying to deceive. His only deceiving voice. God continues to send strong delusion that mankind might continue to believe the lies

The key to understand is in the difference of the word "mark" and "sign" Satan would make altogether one in the same.

Sign . . . . . temporal things seen.

Mark". . . . . eternal unseen . . principle Mark my word what I say comes to pass.

Revelation 13:17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.(unconverted Mankind)

We know it about spiritual matter the unseen things of faith t. . he power to believe God not seen , Buy the truth of the gospel and sell it not like Esau for a cup of hairy goat soup .

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

Revelation 15:2And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

Genisis 4;15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

2 Thessalonians2: 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and "signs"(not marks) and lying wonders,And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: