The four horsemen of the apocalypse

[TMSO]

It might be that the rider of the white horse who is a crowned king and warrior with his bow, conquers by FEAR. Peace through fear is another way of saying peace through strength.
I believe this rider king will be greatly feared. Even by his own people.
I believe he’s also the Antichrist.

It is still peace. Possible rider is greatly feared. I mean, the bow and crown are symbols of power. Not sure about Antichrist though. Neither for nor against.

 

[CrowCross]

I understand you believe in the rapture. Me too.

I believe in the pre-tribulation rapture. Several of the reasons can be seen in this thread.

I believe the raptured saints go to heaven where God is seated on His throne.
Do you agree?

I agree...also,
....John 14 tells us.... 2 In my Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? 3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, (rapture) that where I am you may be also.
Emphasis mine.

I also believe that Jesus and his raptured saints are to be the executors of all the judgments we read of in Revelation. Psa 149:5-9

From a quick reading it looks like that is so.

In order for these judgements to come, there must be a period of time between the rapture and the judgments

I agree.

because there will be mortal believers on earth who go through the tribulation of the judgments. There must be a development of believers on Christ in Jerusalem. I believe they are the 144,000.

To be honest I've never dived into the 144,000.

I also believe the raptured saints are symbolize by the 4 living creatures in heaven.

I have not heard that as of yet. Might I ask why?

Are you with me?

Pretty much.

 

[CrowCross]

I don't see the first horseman as Christ, though I haven't given it much thought. However, I do see it as preparation for the Antichrist, if not the Antichrist. Some believe this can be Donald Trump, who, against all the people saying he wants to blow up the planet, was basically conquering through peace his first time in. Yes, he used drone strikes a couple of times, but this is next to Obama, who received a nobel peace prize, and then went indiscrminately drone striking everyone.

OK, lets have some fun...speculate...

You said.....Some believe this can be Donald Trump.....Currently the Biden administration, actually the string pullers seem to want to send long range missiles into Russia...which will start WW3. Probably nuclear. The OK to do so was just given.

BUT....Trump is president elect...He has a bow but no arrows. No arrows until he is in office. Trump as of this post is trying to have a sit-down with Putin and Zelenskyy and talk peace. Am I wrong? Probably.

Here's more strange speculation...Rev 17;11 .As for the beast that was and is not, it is an eighth but it belongs to the seven, and it goes to destruction.

As for the beast that was.....Trump was president.
and is not....Currently Trump is not.
Then the verse speaks of the future....Trump will be president again. Once again am I wrong? Probably. But just speculating.

 

[TMSO]

OK, lets have some fun...speculate...

You said.....Some believe this can be Donald Trump.....Currently the Biden administration, actually the string pullers seem to want to send long range missiles into Russia...which will start WW3. Probably nuclear. The OK to do so was just given.

BUT....Trump is president elect...He has a bow but no arrows. No arrows until he is in office. Trump as of this post is trying to have a sit-down with Putin and Zelenskyy and talk peace. Am I wrong? Probably.

That isn't it. By having no arrows it shows that he is conquering by peace. It makes sense considering this isn't the horseman of war, which comes next. And that next horse has the power to strip peace from the Earth, which isn't possible if there isn't peace.

Here's more strange speculation...Rev 17;11 .As for the beast that was and is not, it is an eighth but it belongs to the seven, and it goes to destruction.

As for the beast that was.....Trump was president.
and is not....Currently Trump is not.
Then the verse speaks of the future....Trump will be president again. Once again am I wrong? Probably. But just speculating.

To be honest, that is too much speculation for me. I stick to the outside, just watching and seeing what happens. If Trump goes right back into the Abraham Accords and strengthens this treaty/covenant with the many, I will pay closer attention. If he somehow ends the war, and as part of that, Israel gets the right to rebuild their temple, I will pay closer attention.