The False Trinity In Revelation

[Arial]

I debated whether to post this OP on the eschatology board or the Trinity board. It certainly is a strong case for the true Trinity, for if there is a false Trinity there must also be a true Trinity. I decided on this board as if it generates any activity, it will likely be concerning the interpretations of Revelation. It is in Revelation that this false trinity is seen most vividly in action and is shown from the divine perspective.

There are many thematic features that unify Revelation but one of the most prominent is the Satanic counterfeits that oppose God in a cosmic spiritual war.

The beast (first seen in Rev 13:1-10 is a counterfeit of Christ.

He is the image of Satan whom Satan brought forth, (13:1).
Christ is the exact image of God, begotten by the Father (Ps 2:7; Col 1:15; Heb 1:3).

The beast has ten crowns and blasphemous names (13:1).
Christ has many crowns and worthy names (19:12).

The dragon gave the beast his power, throne, and great authority (13:2).
Christ has power (5:12 13), a throne (3:21), and authority (12:10), from the Father (John 5:21-23).

The beast has a seemingly fatal wound from which he has recovered (13:3)
Counterfeiting Christ's resurrection.

The beasts recovery is what attracts many followers. (13:4)
Just as the resurrection is a principle point of evangelistic proclamation.

Worship is directed to both the dragon and the beast. (13:4)
Christians worship both the Father and the Son. (John 5:23

The beast attracts the worship of the whole world. (13:7)
Christ will be worshiped universally.

The beast utters blasphemies. (13:5)
Christ utters the praises of God. (Heb 2:12)

The beast makes war against the saints. (13:7)
Christ makes war against the beast. (19:11-21)

The song of praise to the beast (13:4) counterfeits the song of God (Ex 15:11)

There are two main warriors in the battle. Christ is the divine warrior fulling the imagery of Ex 15:3; Is 59:16-18; 63:1-6; Hab 3:1-15; Zech 9:13-15; 14:1-5.
The beast, the unholy counterfeit warrior fulfills the imagery of Dan7:1-8.

Satan engages in mock creation bringing forth his image out of chaotic waters (13:1) a parallel of Gen 1:2.

The false prophet or beast from the earth (13:11-18) counterfeits the work of the Holy Spirit. He wants worship given to the beast, just as the Holy Spirit glorifies Christ (John 16:14). He works false miraculous signs (13:13-14). He forces a mark on his subjects (13:16)just as the beleiver is sealed with the Holy Spirit (Eph 1:13)

There is another counterfeit. Babylon the harlot, the counterfeit to the bride of Christ. (17:1-19,10)

Satan attacks the saints in two main ways. The beast tries to destroy the witness of the saints through persecution and power, trying to force them to worship the beast. Babylon attacks with seduction, trying to destroy the purity of the saints.

{information courtesy of The Reformation Study Bible}

 

[TMSO]

I debated whether to post this OP on the eschatology board or the Trinity board. It certainly is a strong case for the true Trinity, for if there is a false Trinity there must also be a true Trinity. I decided on this board as if it generates any activity, it will likely be concerning the interpretations of Revelation. It is in Revelation that this false trinity is seen most vividly in action and is shown from the divine perspective.

There are many thematic features that unify Revelation but one of the most prominent is the Satanic counterfeits that oppose God in a cosmic spiritual war.

The beast (first seen in Rev 13:1-10 is a counterfeit of Christ.

He is the image of Satan whom Satan brought forth, (13:1).
Christ is the exact image of God, begotten by the Father (Ps 2:7; Col 1:15; Heb 1:3).

The beast has ten crowns and blasphemous names (13:1).
Christ has many crowns and worthy names (19:12).

The dragon gave the beast his power, throne, and great authority (13:2).
Christ has power (5:12 13), a throne (3:21), and authority (12:10), from the Father (John 5:21-23).

The beast has a seemingly fatal wound from which he has recovered (13:3)
Counterfeiting Christ's resurrection.

The beasts recovery is what attracts many followers. (13:4)
Just as the resurrection is a principle point of evangelistic proclamation.

Worship is directed to both the dragon and the beast. (13:4)
Christians worship both the Father and the Son. (John 5:23

The beast attracts the worship of the whole world. (13:7)
Christ will be worshiped universally.

The beast utters blasphemies. (13:5)
Christ utters the praises of God. (Heb 2:12)

The beast makes war against the saints. (13:7)
Christ makes war against the beast. (19:11-21)

The song of praise to the beast (13:4) counterfeits the song of God (Ex 15:11)

There are two main warriors in the battle. Christ is the divine warrior fulling the imagery of Ex 15:3; Is 59:16-18; 63:1-6; Hab 3:1-15; Zech 9:13-15; 14:1-5.
The beast, the unholy counterfeit warrior fulfills the imagery of Dan7:1-8.

Satan engages in mock creation bringing forth his image out of chaotic waters (13:1) a parallel of Gen 1:2.

The false prophet or beast from the earth (13:11-18) counterfeits the work of the Holy Spirit. He wants worship given to the beast, just as the Holy Spirit glorifies Christ (John 16:14). He works false miraculous signs (13:13-14). He forces a mark on his subjects (13:16)just as the beleiver is sealed with the Holy Spirit (Eph 1:13)

There is another counterfeit. Babylon the harlot, the counterfeit to the bride of Christ. (17:1-19,10)

Satan attacks the saints in two main ways. The beast tries to destroy the witness of the saints through persecution and power, trying to force them to worship the beast. Babylon attacks with seduction, trying to destroy the purity of the saints.

{information courtesy of The Reformation Study Bible}

But this beast, the Antichrist blasphemies and makes Himself God on Earth. And then you have His image, one of the definitions of the word son. As the Son is the image of the Father, this image is the image of the antichrist. And then you have the mark... of ownership. It seals the deal for the worshipers of the beast. In that same way the Holy Spirit seals the believer as belonging to Christ. The beast, image, and mark of the beast have the setup of a false trinity

 

[Mr GLee]

Worship is directed to both the dragon and the beast. (13:4)
Christians worship both the Father and the Son. (John 5:23

The beast attracts the worship of the whole world. (13:7)
Christ will be worshiped universally.

The beast utters blasphemies. (13:5)
Christ utters the praises of God. (Heb 2:12)

The beast makes war against the saints. (13:7)
Christ makes war against the beast. (19:11-21)

I would offer both two

Both (two) the false prophet and the false prophecy

Three demotes the end of a matter .In that way it is part of the gospel .Three day and three nights, three crosses, three different demonstrations .Gardened, hill, temple grave

It would seem two is the number word used as a metaphor to represent one God has spoken and like you mentioned the counterfeiter chief identity thief . as a false god. Legion the father of lies sending out two by two false apostles with false doctrines as oral traditons of dying mankind.

Satan the anti-christ (another teaching authority other than sola scriptura) sending out anti-christs false apostles two by two . turning things upside down as if the clay had the knowledge and the Potter none

 

[TMSO]

I would offer both two

Both (two) the false prophet and the false prophecy

Three demotes the end of a matter .In that way it is part of the gospel .Three day and three nights, three crosses, three different demonstrations .Gardened, hill, temple grave

It would seem two is the number word used as a metaphor to represent one God has spoken and like you mentioned the counterfeiter chief identity thief . as a false god. Legion the father of lies sending out two by two false apostles with false doctrines as oral traditons of dying mankind.

Satan the anti-christ (another teaching authority other than sola scriptura) sending out anti-christs false apostles two by two . turning things upside down as if the clay had the knowledge and the Potter none

So a trinity makes God complete, right?

 

[Carbon]

So a trinity makes God complete, right?

The Trinity does not make God anything. Our God simply is a Triune God.

 

[TMSO]

The Trinity does not make God anything. Our God simply is a Triune God.

My reply is because Mr. Glee doesn't believe in the trinity, but a duality between the Father and Son. However, in his comment, he brings up threes as completeness. So I was just saying, wouldn't being a trinity, in that logic, make God complete? He says three is a crowd, but two is company.

 

[Carbon]

My reply is because Mr. Glee doesn't believe in the trinity, but a duality between the Father and Son. However, in his comment, he brings up threes as completeness. So I was just saying, wouldn't being a trinity, in that logic, make God complete? He says three is a crowd, but two is company.

Got ya.

 

[Mr GLee]

So a trinity makes God complete, right?

Duality makes Elohim (Genesis 1:26) complete.

Demonstrated by two gods . Jesus the Christ the faithful creator (the Father Holy Spirit ) with Jesus, the Son of man .created

The temporal seen Son of man Jesus to give us the unseen. . son of gods .Calling us gods as sons .

John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

The original dynamic dual .

One three days and nights promised demonstration of the lamb that was slain from the foundation .The six day the Father did work

 

[TMSO]

Duality makes Elohim (Genesis 1:26) complete.

Demonstrated by two gods . Jesus the Christ the faithful creator (the Father Holy Spirit ) with Jesus, the Son of man .created

Jesus wasn ot created. God through John says that NOTHING was created without Jesus. Did Jesus create Himself? In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. If the Holy Spirit is not a person, why is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit an unforgivable sin? If the Holy Spirit is not a person, then what is being blasphemed? Blasphemy is attacking God. All sins against the Father and the Son may be forgiven, but the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven in this age, or the next.

The temporal seen Son of man Jesus to give us the unseen. . son of gods .Calling us gods as sons .

No, we are not gods. The Word, that is God (John 1:1) took upon Himself flesh, and pitched His tent among us (humanity). God took upon Himself flesh. He made Himself to be a human, and was both God and man. 100% God, 100% man.

"31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36 say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him."

Notice Jesus didn't say they were wrong. He states clearly that the Father is in me, and I in Him. A visual of how the trinity works when the Holy Spirit is added.

John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

The original dynamic dual .

One three days and nights promised demonstration of the lamb that was slain from the foundation .The six day the Father did work

 

[Ghada]

I debated whether to post this OP on the eschatology board or the Trinity board. It certainly is a strong case for the true Trinity, for if there is a false Trinity there must also be a true Trinity. I decided on this board as if it generates any activity, it will likely be concerning the interpretations of Revelation. It is in Revelation that this false trinity is seen most vividly in action and is shown from the divine perspective.

There are many thematic features that unify Revelation but one of the most prominent is the Satanic counterfeits that oppose God in a cosmic spiritual war.

The beast (first seen in Rev 13:1-10 is a counterfeit of Christ.

He is the image of Satan whom Satan brought forth, (13:1).
Christ is the exact image of God, begotten by the Father (Ps 2:7; Col 1:15; Heb 1:3).

The beast has ten crowns and blasphemous names (13:1).
Christ has many crowns and worthy names (19:12).

The dragon gave the beast his power, throne, and great authority (13:2).
Christ has power (5:12 13), a throne (3:21), and authority (12:10), from the Father (John 5:21-23).

The beast has a seemingly fatal wound from which he has recovered (13:3)
Counterfeiting Christ's resurrection.

The beasts recovery is what attracts many followers. (13:4)
Just as the resurrection is a principle point of evangelistic proclamation.

Worship is directed to both the dragon and the beast. (13:4)
Christians worship both the Father and the Son. (John 5:23

The beast attracts the worship of the whole world. (13:7)
Christ will be worshiped universally.

The beast utters blasphemies. (13:5)
Christ utters the praises of God. (Heb 2:12)

The beast makes war against the saints. (13:7)
Christ makes war against the beast. (19:11-21)

The song of praise to the beast (13:4) counterfeits the song of God (Ex 15:11)

There are two main warriors in the battle. Christ is the divine warrior fulling the imagery of Ex 15:3; Is 59:16-18; 63:1-6; Hab 3:1-15; Zech 9:13-15; 14:1-5.
The beast, the unholy counterfeit warrior fulfills the imagery of Dan7:1-8.

Satan engages in mock creation bringing forth his image out of chaotic waters (13:1) a parallel of Gen 1:2.

The false prophet or beast from the earth (13:11-18) counterfeits the work of the Holy Spirit. He wants worship given to the beast, just as the Holy Spirit glorifies Christ (John 16:14). He works false miraculous signs (13:13-14). He forces a mark on his subjects (13:16)just as the beleiver is sealed with the Holy Spirit (Eph 1:13)

There is another counterfeit. Babylon the harlot, the counterfeit to the bride of Christ. (17:1-19,10)

Satan attacks the saints in two main ways. The beast tries to destroy the witness of the saints through persecution and power, trying to force them to worship the beast. Babylon attacks with seduction, trying to destroy the purity of the saints.

{information courtesy of The Reformation Study Bible}

A fair show of the last false Christ appearing as Jesus Christ on earth again.

The problem with the trinity analogy including the beast and the false prophet, is that they are both men.

Otherwise, the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are counterfeited by the Dragon, the beast, and the spirit of error, in lying works and miracles with idolatrous worship.