The Apostles

[Fred]

Amen!
John 20:28
Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”

The JW's forbid worshiping the Lord Jesus.

Awake!: Jehovah’s Witnesses do not worship Jesus. (My Sikh Heritage—And My Search for Truth, December 22, 1987, page 22)

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101987926?q=%22Jehovah%27s+Witnesses+do+not+worship%22&p=par

Since Thomas referred to the Lord Jesus as "my God" (John 20:28) demonstrates that he was "a worshiper" of the Lord Jesus.
The Watchtower: Only an inferior, a worshiper, can refer to another as "my God." (The Trinity—Should You Believe It? February 1, 1984, page 5).
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1984081

 

[Carbon]

Amen!
John 20:28
Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”

@Keiw1

Don't you think it would be safer to agree with John (Thomas), a couple of Christ's apostles? Other than Charles T Russel? After all, he didn't even understand the Greek. He was brought to court for it and couldn't even recite the alphabet.

That should bring up a yellow flag, no?

 

[Eleanor]

Jesus is NEVER called Ho Theos.

A distinction without a difference.

 

[Keiw1]

Amen!
John 20:28
Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”

Its impossible for it to be saying what you think in light of what Jesus teaches at John 17:3--Either the one who sent him= Father is the only true God or Jesus lied. We know he did not lie.

 

[Keiw1]

@Keiw1

Don't you think it would be safer to agree with John (Thomas), a couple of Christ's apostles? Other than Charles T Russel? After all, he didn't even understand the Greek. He was brought to court for it and couldn't even recite the alphabet.

That should bring up a yellow flag, no?

I do agree with Jesus' real teachers-Coll 1:3, 2 Cor 1:3, Eph 1:3,17, 1 Cor 15:24-28--1 Peter 1:3--Jesus has a God= his Father, just as Jesus teaches-John 20:17, Rev 3:12-- We know Gods written word would not contradict itself. So twisting what is said does the contradicting.
The teachers Jesus is with get holy spirit, God knows every language on earth better than any mortal who ever lived.

 

[Carbon]

I do agree with Jesus' real teachers

Okay, here is error #1.

Jesus has no teachers. Jesus is God.

 

[Fred]

Two posts and no mention of John 20:28.

 

[Keiw1]

Okay, here is error #1.

Jesus has no teachers. Jesus is God.

I was saying the teachers who have Jesus leading them. God taught Jesus everything he knows.

 

[Deleted member 5]

I was saying the teachers who have Jesus leading them. God taught Jesus everything he knows.

Does anyone other than JW's or WTS folks have Jesus leading them?

 

[Keiw1]

Does anyone other than JW's or WTS folks have Jesus leading them?

The teachings of Jesus in every translation on earth back the JW teachers. Facts of Israelite true God worship history back the JW teachers as well. So i would have to answer no to your question.

 

[Deleted member 5]

The teachings of Jesus in every translation on earth back the JW teachers.

That's what you've been mislead to believe. In actuality, other versions refute your beliefs.

Facts of Israelite true God worship history back the JW teachers as well.

Unfounded and unsubstantiated.

So i would have to answer no to your question.

Yes, I already knew the answer. I do however pray God saves you from your deception, sins, and false beliefs.

John 8:24.

 

[Keiw1]

That's what you've been mislead to believe. In actuality, other versions refute your beliefs.

Unfounded and unsubstantiated.

Yes, I already knew the answer. I do however pray God saves you from your deception, sins, and false beliefs.

John 8:24.

The teachings of Jesus are the same in every translation-except a minor change at Matt 5:5--Earth or Land.
Here is a super important teaching from Jesus, every true follower knows by heart already--Matt 6:33-Keep on seeking- FIRST-the kingdom and his(YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these other things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality) Matt 6)
Every Jewish person on earth who ever lived will tell you God is a single being God. In the Hebrew language-Elohim translates-The supreme one or mighty one for the true God. Only plural for the false trinity gods served back in the OT days.

 

[Fred]

Every Jewish person on earth who ever lived will tell you God is a single being God.

Which does nothing to refute the Trinity.

 

[Deleted member 5]

The teachings of Jesus are the same in every translation-except a minor change at Matt 5:5--Earth or Land.

This isn't remotely true.

Here is a super important teaching from Jesus, every true follower knows by heart already--Matt 6:33-Keep on seeking- FIRST-the kingdom and his(YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these other things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality) Matt 6)
Every Jewish person on earth who ever lived will tell you God is a single being God. In the Hebrew language-Elohim translates-The supreme one or mighty one for the true God. Only plural for the false trinity gods served back in the OT days.

Jesus is YHWH from the OT. He has always existed, and was never created.

By the way YHWH is pronounced Yah-Way not Ya-Hov-Uh or Jehovah. The word Hallelujah shows this. How is it that the teachers in NY at WTS who are the only ones led by Jesus don't have His Name correct?

 

[Deleted member 5]

The teachings of Jesus are the same in every translation-except a minor change at Matt 5:5--Earth or Land.
Here is a super important teaching from Jesus, every true follower knows by heart already--Matt 6:33-Keep on seeking- FIRST-the kingdom and his(YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these other things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality) Matt 6)
Every Jewish person on earth who ever lived will tell you God is a single being God. In the Hebrew language-Elohim translates-The supreme one or mighty one for the true God. Only plural for the false trinity gods served back in the OT days.

So Jews are your authority now? Pretty convenient, isn't it?

I thought it was "the only ones led by Jesus" at WTS?

For the record I too believe God is a single Being.

 

[Keiw1]

Which does nothing to refute the Trinity.

God will.

 

[Deleted member 5]

Which does nothing to refute the Trinity.

He doesn't understand that God IS a single (one) being consisting of three Persons.

 

[Keiw1]

This isn't remotely true.

Jesus is YHWH from the OT. He has always existed, and was never created.

By the way YHWH is pronounced Yah-Way not Ya-Hov-Uh or Jehovah. The word Hallelujah shows this. How is it that the teachers in NY at WTS who are the only ones led by Jesus don't have His Name correct?

Yhwh becomes king=1Chron 16:31--Jesus had to be appointed to a kingship( Daniel 7:13-15) If Jesus were YHWH he was already king. YHWH said to my Lord( Jesus) proves he is not YHWH.
Do you use Job, Jeremiah, Joshua? Yes you do--Yet that is not their Hebrew names-We don't speak Hebrew do we?

 

[Keiw1]

So Jews are your authority now? Pretty convenient, isn't it?

I thought it was "the only ones led by Jesus" at WTS?

For the record I too believe God is a single Being.

Truth is truth, no matter the source.

 

[Keiw1]

He doesn't understand that God IS a single (one) being consisting of three Persons.

Please explain to all How God has a God-John 20:17--back in heaven-Rev 3:12--And how God must be in subjection to another after handing the kingdom back to his God-1Cor 15:24-28