Some things written by the RCC are shocking.

[donadams]

But who is the Church?

The church is built by Christ on the apostles eph 2:20

The mystical body of Christ
The communion of saints
The household of faith
The new covenant
Holy Mother Church gal 4:26

 

[makesends]

Not even the Jews believed only the Torah.... you forgot the NT

That's a sidestep.

What @Arial said was that Jesus and the apostles taught from the OT. What difference does it make that the Jews didn't believe only the Torah? And, that the whole of Scripture nowadays includes the NT is irrelevant also. They taught using Sola Scriptura.

Do you have something relevant to say?

 

[makesends]

Mt 16 and Mt 18.... keys/bind-loose [hierarchical church]

Non-sequitur.

Not to mention that it is circular to trust the RCC's use of Mt 16 and 18 because they claim to be the authority, and thus to have the correct use of Mt. 16 and 18.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Mt 23:2-3 The scribes and the Pharisees have taken their seat on the chair of Moses. Therefore, do and observe all things whatsoever they tell you, but do not follow their example. For they preach but they do not practice.

[OT seat on the chair of Moses, NT seat on the chair of Peter]

 

[Arial]

Not even the Jews believed only the Torah.... you forgot the NT

What do you mean? What else did they believe?

I did not forget the NT I was referring to what was in the NT- and what Jesus and the apostles taught---sola scriptura according to the OT. Which makes the NT Scripture as authoritative as the OT. The NT is the New Covenant unveiled---- the one prophesied in the OT. It is the promised Messiah, the mediator of the New Covenant, come. The content including the epistles, reveals what was in the OT as only shadows and types.

To add the traditions of men to that is forbidden by that Scripture itself. It is exactly what the Jews of Jesus' day were doing (if that is what you meant, and even if it is not what you meant). They felt that God's law as legal code did not go far enough, so they went beyond it and made the proselytes twice as much children of hell as themselves. (See all the woes of Matt 23). Here are the first two.


Does any of that sound familiar?



2 “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat, 3 so do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do. For they preach, but do not practice. 4 They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear,[a] and lay them on people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger. 5 They do all their deeds to be seen by others. For they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, 6 and they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues 7 and greetings in the marketplaces and being called rabbi[b] by others. 8 But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers.[c] 9 And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. 10 Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ. 11 The greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would enter to go in.[d] 15 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel across sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte, you make him twice as much a child of hell[e] as yourselves.

 

[Arch Stanton]

What do you mean?

posted above

 

[Arial]

posted above

Can you address the rest of the post now? I am not going to do this back and forth game with you.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Can you address the rest of the post now? I am not going to do this back and forth game with you.

interesting.... I posted over a week ago about the 'essential in scripture'. Not 100% sure that you didn't but me thinks you may not have.