| Denomination | Official View on Grace and Will | Semi-Pelagian Leanings? |
|---|---|---|
| Methodist / Wesleyan | Prevenient grace enables free choice | Sometimes accused, but no |
| Evangelical / Baptist (some) | Human choice heavily emphasized | Sometimes, unofficially |
| Pentecostal / Charismatic | Similar to Wesleyan-Arminian | Possibly, in practice |
| Reformed / Presbyterian | Total depravity, monergism | No |
| Lutheran | Grace precedes and enables faith | No |
Hello Rescued One, I believe the Eastern Orthodox Church considers itself to be Semi-Pelagian, but Roman Catholics say they are not (even though they are
). Most Protestant denominations are either Arminian or Calvinist, never Semi-Pelagian or Pelagian.I'm thinking I'm a 5-point Calvinist. Maybe my dau. is attending an Evangelical Free Church. Beats me.Hello Rescued One, I believe the Eastern Orthodox Church considers itself to be Semi-Pelagian, but Roman Catholics say they are not (even though they are
Presbyterians are historically Calvinist churches, though I would be hard-pressed to refer to the more liberal Presbyterian churches today as "Christian", much less Calvinist. Reformed Baptists are Calvinist, and there are some denominations, like the SBC, and others, like mine (the Evangelical Free Church of America) that take a neutral position on Protestantism's two, principal systematic theologies.
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Calvary Chapel seems to be in partial agreement with the "T" and the "P" in TULIP (I say partial because they do not understand the "T" or the "P" in the same way that a Calvinist does), and in disagreement with TULIP's three middle "petals" (the U the L and the I). So, Calvary Chapel is basically pro-Arminian and anti-Reformed/Calvinist (even though they claim to believe some of both theologies).
That's a good idea
Me too. I have a friend, Penny, who I call "One-Point Penny" (in fun), because while she calls herself Arminian, she only holds to four points of Arminian soteriology. On the 5th point however (Perseverance of the Saints/Eternal Security) she is decidedly Calvinist (just like MANY Arminians actually are
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CANON 1. If anyone denies that it is the whole man, that is, both body and soul, that was "changed for the worse" through the offense of Adam's sin, but believes that the freedom of the soul remains unimpaired and that only the body is subject to corruption, he is deceived by the error of Pelagius and contradicts the scripture which says, "The soul that sins shall die" (Ezek. 18:20); and, "Do you not know that if you yield yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are the slaves of the one whom you obey?" (Rom. 6:16); and, "For whatever overcomes a man, to that he is enslaved" (2 Pet. 2:19).
CANON 2. If anyone asserts that Adam's sin affected him alone and not his descendants also, or at least if he declares that it is only the death of the body which is the punishment for sin, and not also that sin, which is the death of the soul, passed through one man to the whole human race, he does injustice to God and contradicts the Apostle, who says, "Therefore as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all men sinned" (Rom. 5:12).
CANON 3. If anyone says that the grace of God can be conferred as a result of human prayer, but that it is not grace itself which makes us pray to God, he contradicts the prophet Isaiah, or the Apostle who says the same thing, "I have been found by those who did not seek me; I have shown myself to those who did not ask for me" (Rom 10:20, quoting Isa. 65:1).
CANON 4. If anyone maintains that God awaits our will to be cleansed from sin, but does not confess that even our will to be cleansed comes to us through the infusion and working of the Holy Spirit, he resists the Holy Spirit himself who says through Solomon, "The will is prepared by the Lord" (Prov. 8:35, LXX), and the salutary word of the Apostle, "For God is at work in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure" (Phil. 2:13).
CANON 5. If anyone says that not only the increase of faith but also its beginning and the very desire for faith, by which we believe in Him who justifies the ungodly and comes to the regeneration of holy baptism -- if anyone says that this belongs to us by nature and not by a gift of grace, that is, by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit amending our will and turning it from unbelief to faith and from godlessness to godliness, it is proof that he is opposed to the teaching of the Apostles, for blessed Paul says, "And I am sure that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ" (Phil. 1:6). And again, "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God" (Eph. 2:8). For those who state that the faith by which we believe in God is natural make all who are separated from the Church of Christ by definition in some measure believers.
CANON 6. If anyone says that God has mercy upon us when, apart from his grace, we believe, will, desire, strive, labor, pray, watch, study, seek, ask, or knock, but does not confess that it is by the infusion and inspiration of the Holy Spirit within us that we have the faith, the will, or the strength to do all these things as we ought; or if anyone makes the assistance of grace depend on the humility or obedience of man and does not agree that it is a gift of grace itself that we are obedient and humble, he contradicts the Apostle who says, "What have you that you did not receive?" (1 Cor. 4:7), and, "But by the grace of God I am what I am" (1 Cor. 15:10).
Then she is free to choose which systematic theology to follow because, as I said above, the denomination takes a neutral (or better, an agnostic) stance concerning Calvinism and Arminianism, leaving the decision about which position to hold up to the individual believer and the guidance/teaching they receive from the Holy Spirit.
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That's true. In fact, the Bible makes it clear that God's elect are the only ones who will or can, yes? .. e.g. 1 Corinthians 2:14.
I read that and thought...I didn't know that. (denies trinity). So I looked it up
From what I have researched..going to several Salvation Army sights and checking out their beliefs...they are trinitarian.
I'll have to look.
That's a weird statement --- almost modalism.
