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RUINATION via ALCOHOLISM

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RUINATION via ALCOHOLISM

When I was actively involved in treating alcoholics and drug addicts, one of my patients told me that on one occasion he needed a drink so badly he sold his upper denture plate to a bartender for one drink because three of the teeth were lined with gold. The poison is so addictive the captive alcoholic will go to any extreme for another drink.

Drinking intoxicating beverages is not out-rightly denounced by the God of creation, but drunkenness is. Personally, I have no love for the stuff—don’t need it, any more than I need a daily dose of Ex-Lax. I worked with alcoholics for decades, and I can assure you that not one of them would have become addicted to alcohol and ruined his life had he left his “social drinks” inside the bottle

Let me tell you about calamity in my family. I once had a brother-in-law—now deceased—whose biological system was so susceptible to alcohol that to even get a whiff of it sent him on a long drinking spree. On one occasion he was gone on an alcohol binge from his wife and three children for almost a month. It was during his long stay from home that Dad and I, not knowing he was on another bender, visited my sister and her three small children in their ramshackle country rental home. They had almost starved to death. Their plight was so sad that we both wept.

We immediately made a trip to the grocery store and replenished their food cupboard. After “squandering his property on prostitutes” and alcohol and was broken enough to be “sent to the fields to feed pigs” (Luke 15), he returned home “with his tail between his legs,” carrying nothing but the clothes on his back. But praise be to God, he later conquered the addiction and spent the remainder of his days sober but in solitude, without his family. In his own way he loved the Lord, but the flesh mastered him for most of his years.

The stories I could tell you about the pitfalls of alcohol and drugs would astound you. Yes, even God’s children are often the victims of alcohol and its after-effects. Righteous Lot, who lost his wife when she turned around to take a look at God’s judgment upon the homosexual city of Sodom, had two daughters who later got him drunk and had sex with him. Both became pregnant by their father and bore sons (Genesis 19:30-38). This incestuous relationship would probably never have occurred if there had been no alcohol in their company.

After the ark landed, Noah planted a vineyard, and “when he drank some of its wine, he became drunk and lay uncovered in his tent.” His son, Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father’s nakedness—probably by accident. When Noah awakened, he said, “Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves will he be to his brothers” (Genesis 9). Ham was not totally to blame. Noah, although a righteous servant of God, should not have gotten drunk. He paid the penalty.

When Moses was upon the mountain with God for 40 days, the children of Israel became bored and corrupted themselves. When he came down off the mountain, he found them singing and dancing—and intoxicated—and bowing down to a stupid idol in the form of a calf. “Moses saw that the people were running wild and that Aaron had let them get out of control and so become a laughingstock to their enemies” (Exodus 32). What followed was death to 3,000 of the revelers, decreed by God.

One of my brothers died from alcoholism and riotous living. He was always in denial, as most alcoholics are. I last saw him in 1985 at Dad’s funeral. He was still drinking. I cautioned him again about the fatal results of alcohol and cigarette addiction and asked him if he had had his liver tested lately. I still remember his words. “I just had a physical not too long ago and the doctor said I was in excellent shape.” Denial again.

By the time he entered the hospital to die, most of his vital organs were shutting down. One happy note, however, about his demise is that just before he died he asked someone to bring him the Lord’s Supper. It was brought to him and he died not too long afterwards. In his own way he, too, loved the Lord, but the flesh enslaved him for most of his years.

Drunkenness and Heaven don’t mix. Now we know why the apostle Paul placed drunkenness in the same arena of wickedness as adulterers, prostitutes, idolaters, homosexuals, thieves, and the greedy, and announced, “They [the unrepentant] will not inherit the [eternal] reign of God” (1 Cor. 6:9-11).

My advice is simple. Don’t start drinking “socially” and you’ll never become an alcoholic. Don’t seek a “temporary high” on drugs to “better solve your problems” and you’ll never become a drug addict.​
 
RUINATION via ALCOHOLISM

When I was actively involved in treating alcoholics and drug addicts, one of my patients told me that on one occasion he needed a drink so badly he sold his upper denture plate to a bartender for one drink because three of the teeth were lined with gold. The poison is so addictive the captive alcoholic will go to any extreme for another drink.

Drinking intoxicating beverages is not out-rightly denounced by the God of creation, but drunkenness is. Personally, I have no love for the stuff—don’t need it, any more than I need a daily dose of Ex-Lax. I worked with alcoholics for decades, and I can assure you that not one of them would have become addicted to alcohol and ruined his life had he left his “social drinks” inside the bottle

Let me tell you about calamity in my family. I once had a brother-in-law—now deceased—whose biological system was so susceptible to alcohol that to even get a whiff of it sent him on a long drinking spree. On one occasion he was gone on an alcohol binge from his wife and three children for almost a month. It was during his long stay from home that Dad and I, not knowing he was on another bender, visited my sister and her three small children in their ramshackle country rental home. They had almost starved to death. Their plight was so sad that we both wept.

We immediately made a trip to the grocery store and replenished their food cupboard. After “squandering his property on prostitutes” and alcohol and was broken enough to be “sent to the fields to feed pigs” (Luke 15), he returned home “with his tail between his legs,” carrying nothing but the clothes on his back. But praise be to God, he later conquered the addiction and spent the remainder of his days sober but in solitude, without his family. In his own way he loved the Lord, but the flesh mastered him for most of his years.

The stories I could tell you about the pitfalls of alcohol and drugs would astound you. Yes, even God’s children are often the victims of alcohol and its after-effects. Righteous Lot, who lost his wife when she turned around to take a look at God’s judgment upon the homosexual city of Sodom, had two daughters who later got him drunk and had sex with him. Both became pregnant by their father and bore sons (Genesis 19:30-38). This incestuous relationship would probably never have occurred if there had been no alcohol in their company.

After the ark landed, Noah planted a vineyard, and “when he drank some of its wine, he became drunk and lay uncovered in his tent.” His son, Ham, the father of Canaan, saw his father’s nakedness—probably by accident. When Noah awakened, he said, “Cursed be Canaan! The lowest of slaves will he be to his brothers” (Genesis 9). Ham was not totally to blame. Noah, although a righteous servant of God, should not have gotten drunk. He paid the penalty.

When Moses was upon the mountain with God for 40 days, the children of Israel became bored and corrupted themselves. When he came down off the mountain, he found them singing and dancing—and intoxicated—and bowing down to a stupid idol in the form of a calf. “Moses saw that the people were running wild and that Aaron had let them get out of control and so become a laughingstock to their enemies” (Exodus 32). What followed was death to 3,000 of the revelers, decreed by God.

One of my brothers died from alcoholism and riotous living. He was always in denial, as most alcoholics are. I last saw him in 1985 at Dad’s funeral. He was still drinking. I cautioned him again about the fatal results of alcohol and cigarette addiction and asked him if he had had his liver tested lately. I still remember his words. “I just had a physical not too long ago and the doctor said I was in excellent shape.” Denial again.

By the time he entered the hospital to die, most of his vital organs were shutting down. One happy note, however, about his demise is that just before he died he asked someone to bring him the Lord’s Supper. It was brought to him and he died not too long afterwards. In his own way he, too, loved the Lord, but the flesh enslaved him for most of his years.

Drunkenness and Heaven don’t mix. Now we know why the apostle Paul placed drunkenness in the same arena of wickedness as adulterers, prostitutes, idolaters, homosexuals, thieves, and the greedy, and announced, “They [the unrepentant] will not inherit the [eternal] reign of God” (1 Cor. 6:9-11).

My advice is simple. Don’t start drinking “socially” and you’ll never become an alcoholic. Don’t seek a “temporary high” on drugs to “better solve your problems” and you’ll never become a drug addict.​
Were you ever an alcoholic (or have a chemical dependency)? With what were the alcoholics treated?
 
No, never an alcoholic. Basically, the patients were treated with frequent therapy sessions. But a few also received medication, depending on the severity of their problem.
 
No, never an alcoholic. Basically, the patients were treated with frequent therapy sessions. But a few also received medication, depending on the severity of their problem.
I was formerly both chemically and process dependent and after my conversion became a counselor and did my internship in a year-long residential treatment program (that also happened to be private and Christian!).
My advice is simple. Don’t start drinking “socially” and you’ll never become an alcoholic. Don’t seek a “temporary high” on drugs to “better solve your problems” and you’ll never become a drug addict.​
I trust you understand the dependency in most cases is a symptom of larger underlying problem (usually some sort of trauma) that may or may not be treated if the chemical "addiction" alone is all that is addressed. Fundamentally (I trust you'll agree here, too), underneath the underlying problem there is an underlying problem: sin ;)


I remember learning way back in grad school how Jung had argued the preeminent factor in successful treatment was a spiritual experience and I remember how many of my secular colleagues resisted that premise despite decades of research confirming the premise.
 
There is an X factor involved. Most people do not become addicted. Those who do become addicted appear to have some sort of chemical reaction from the first drink.
There is research that is studying what the X factor is.
It is an organic problem. Some people have an "addictive" reaction to alcohol. Maybe some day, the chemistry will be understood. And alcoholism will be solved with a pill.
That is my hope and prayers as I have seen the pain and suffering of alcoholics who were ashamed, unable to control their drinking and yet tried to lead sober lives.
It is a problem I have seen and one I thank God I do not have.
Maybe someday, a treatment...
 
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I would offer in a spiritual unseen sense . Alcohol is the gate way drug leading todays murderer fentanyl.. . The walls are broken down in that way terrorist entering in.

Not all drug are in affect in that way .A little wine can calm down a heart. . good for the stomach or soul. Drink to much dissipation of Spirit. . loss of control or no fruit of the Spirit .

Mandrake like a fertility's drug was used in that way it seems to slow down extend time . The wives sent the children to Dothan city the local drug store . . the wives made drug deals

Not promoting drugs. Anything that is not of faith as it is written is sin .Removing the border law is the death blow

Proverbs 25:28 He that hath no rule over his own vice president spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.
 
There are several dynamics involved in the matter of the use of alcohol, seemingly different for different people. I don't mean to denigrate anyone for their opinions concerning addiction, but I see no reason to claim someone ever does what they don't want to do, at that moment of decision —and that goes for addiction, too.

One man I know well never drinks a drop, even if he has many hours before work (security guard at a high school), not because he's afraid of being tested, but almost "in honor" of the kids there, and of the people who depend on him. When school is out of session, he still doesn't drink anything during the week because of his night-time job (security at an airport). Yet on the weekend, he does drink, and heavily, as though it is a virtue to be drunk. Is that an alcoholic?

A lady I know very well and love, has abandoned illicit drugs, unless you call MJ a drug, because they were the cause of an awful health problem. I won't go into what happened to her, but she remains addicted to 'being high' —granted, that is my opinion. She wants a buzz and does pretty much all she can to maintain it. But if it wasn't for alcohol, I don't think she would stay off the drugs. She loves to party and be high, and while we could go into the psychology as to why she wants to be high and stop thinking about things, I think she is still, like many others, addicted to being high —not addicted to alcohol itself. But she is getting older, and has begun to slack off after a while during the day because she doesn't like feeling sick.

I know others that drink or smoke (usually cigarettes) that seem addicted, but it seems to me that they do it out of plain habit, or the enjoyment of the process of doing it.

One more note on others' apparent addictions or use of alcohol —specially concerning those habitual users: It reminds me of the Bible's descriptions of the dual nature of what one thinks about that corrupts him, and what he talks about coming from within him. All of these that I have described have a personality to match their habit, including the weekend drunk. At least that is how they come across to me. What they are willing to sacrifice on the altar of their desires, habits, addictions, whatever, is amazing. (I could go from there into a personal lesson concerning walking with God, but that can wait.)

For myself, I could say I am addicted to pleasure. If it wasn't for God I would be pursuing, 24 hrs a day, whatever made me feel good. I can drink and even get a bit buzzed with a friend (lol, it doesn't take much, in my case), and I often have a beer when I come home from a hot day, and I love the taste; I smoke cigars; months ago sometimes as often as 20 a week, but when I moved to my present circumstances, I think I have smoked only two in 8 months because it just isn't worth it to me in these circumstances. I used to smoke a pipe, but it was too much trouble —not worth it. I can put both smoking and drinking down, even after years of using them, is what I'm saying, and now and then when it is not expedient I think how I would enjoy one or the other, or both, I have no problem not doing so. I'm not addicted. Lol, not even to coffee, though I have been accused of it, though my day has a way of dragging if I don't start with a mug. I've even tried weed, (several times, because friends said I just hadn't had the good stuff), and it has no appeal to me —I don't even like it. It's just simply not worth it to me. I don't know why, really, but I thank God for my freedom.
 
One man I know well never drinks a drop, even if he has many hours before work (security guard at a high school), not because he's afraid of being tested, but almost "in honor" of the kids there, and of the people who depend on him. When school is out of session, he still doesn't drink anything during the week because of his night-time job (security at an airport). Yet on the weekend, he does drink, and heavily, as though it is a virtue to be drunk. Is that an alcoholic?
No, he is not an alcoholic. I once had a man working for me. He was also one of my very best friends. I referred to him as a drunk, not an alcoholic. He liked to get drunk. But he only did so when he knew he would be sober when he needed to be. And he, even when he was drinking, would stop whenever he decided he should stop. He never had the blackouts of the alcoholic. There are some for whom alcohol is not additive. It is rare, but apparently it does happen.
 
Seems like the kind of government we have today . Some I would call Jezebel Drunks

If mankind forfeits the protection of the Holy Spirit who will help in time of need ?

Note... (PURPLE) my offering.

Ephesians 5:18 "And do not get drunk with wine,(anything that intoxicates or invigorates ) for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit".

That verse is part of a passage that instructs Christians on how to live or walk "understand God". .aided by their new born faith of Christ's labor of love as it is written . It encourages believers to be filled with the Spirit instead of being controlled by worldly things

Wine, anything thing that intoxicates or invigorates to include Honey. To much Honey is used that way throughout the bible . Victims of selfish pride Charles Mansion, Jim Jones. . etc Drunk on false pride. .

The father of false pride Lucifer, the lying murderer from the beginning.

Proverbs 25:27 It is "not good" to eat much honey : so for men to search their own glory is . . . .not glory.

Proverbs 20 King James Version Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise. Look (lust of eyes) not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his (Satan) colour in the cup, when it moveth (lust flesh) itself aright.

Proverbs 23:32 At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder. Thine eyes (Lust of flesh) shall behold strange women,( LGBTQ+) thine (dark) heart shall utter perverse things. (government issued Tampons in boys bathrooms) Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again.

 
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