Oneness Pentecostal

[Arial]

There may be some confusion with posts that declare Jesus is God but also assert there is no Trinity doctrine in the Bible. Unless the doctrine behind this is identified as to its source and meaning, its religious association, conversations can be carried on talking past one another, never getting at the real issue.

For clarification I post a link. And it would help if those who are Oneness Pentecostals, identify their position as such.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneness_Pentecostalism

Oneness Pentecostalism (also known as Apostolic, Jesus' Name Pentecostalism, or the Jesus Only movement) is a nontrinitarian religious movement within the Protestant Christian family of churches known as Pentecostalism.[1][2][3] It derives its name from its teaching on the Godhead, a form of Modalistic Monarchianism commonly referred to as the Oneness doctrine.[4][5][6] The doctrine states that there is one God―a singular divine spirit with no distinction of persons―who manifests himself in many ways, including as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.[7][8]

If the entire article is read, it can be discerned that the doctrine is not actually based on skilled work by those who first brought it into the church, but rather is entirely subjective----which the Bible is not.

 

[Mr GLee]

There may be some confusion with posts that declare Jesus is God but also assert there is no Trinity doctrine in the Bible. Unless the doctrine behind this is identified as to its source and meaning, its religious association, conversations can be carried on talking past one another, never getting at the real issue.

For clarification I post a link. And it would help if those who are Oneness Pentecostals, identify their position as such.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneness_Pentecostalism

Oneness Pentecostalism (also known as Apostolic, Jesus' Name Pentecostalism, or the Jesus Only movement) is a nontrinitarian religious movement within the Protestant Christian family of churches known as Pentecostalism.[1][2][3] It derives its name from its teaching on the Godhead, a form of Modalistic Monarchianism commonly referred to as the Oneness doctrine.[4][5][6] The doctrine states that there is one God―a singular divine spirit with no distinction of persons―who manifests himself in many ways, including as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.[7][8]

If the entire article is read, it can be discerned that the doctrine is not actually based on skilled work by those who first brought it into the church, but rather is entirely subjective----which the Bible is not.

Why Oneness Pentecostals rather than one God . Why the Pentecostals .What make there oneness different than that of a reformed .

 

[Ghada]

There may be some confusion with posts that declare Jesus is God but also assert there is no Trinity doctrine in the Bible. Unless the doctrine behind this is identified as to its source and meaning, its religious association, conversations can be carried on talking past one another, never getting at the real issue.

For clarification I post a link. And it would help if those who are Oneness Pentecostals, identify their position as such.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneness_Pentecostalism

Oneness Pentecostalism (also known as Apostolic, Jesus' Name Pentecostalism, or the Jesus Only movement) is a nontrinitarian religious movement within the Protestant Christian family of churches known as Pentecostalism.[1][2][3] It derives its name from its teaching on the Godhead, a form of Modalistic Monarchianism commonly referred to as the Oneness doctrine.[4][5][6] The doctrine states that there is one God―a singular divine spirit with no distinction of persons―who manifests himself in many ways, including as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.[7][8]

If the entire article is read, it can be discerned that the doctrine is not actually based on skilled work by those who first brought it into the church, but rather is entirely subjective----which the Bible is not.

Pentecostalism hyjacked the outpouring of the Holy Ghost in the early 1900's America, wioth their holiness religion. They added extensive carnal ordinances, called holiness living, to the rule of Christ for godly manners, especially pertaining to holiness dress.

Their whole brand of holiness is built upon zero-tolerance policies of abstinence, and full covering of any skin that ought not be seen in public. Such as shoulders and calves of men, and necklines and knees of women. (Go figures, men calves bad, women calves good)

Paul calls such carnal ordinances, commandments of men in a show of will worship: it's a form of godliness by puffed up holiness standards.

Their entire focus is how to prove their 'holiness standard', by which we are justified by Christ. They are so caught up in such holiness manners of dress and behavior. It's fixation on avoiding any appearance of fleshiness, that it's minding the flesh on the opposite side of liscentiousness.

The result is an ungrown childish Christianity, that never learns the true strength of Christ in this life, which is to liver soberly with a sound mind and judgment between good and evil. I.e. moderation in all things.

Phl 4:5Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.

They don't let their moderation be known, but rather seek to prove their holiness on a daily basis. They don't just sanctify and separate themselves from the world, but go on by their holiness rules to isolate themselves from the rest of the body of Christ.

Like the Pharisee Jews, Christian holiness pentecosts can't be faulted for their outward living, and their zeal for righteousness by the law. They can spot a 'compromiser' a mile off. Which includes any Christian not up to standard in holiness dress and behavior.

The problem of course is the old error of the Pharisees, that were not only super-law keepers, but also were also seeking to spot any breaker of their personal law of outer conformity. Which of course includes Jesus and His disciples then and today.

I could get into all the myriad details of holiness rules, but then holiness pentecosts are easy to spot a mile off, especially their womenfolk. It's not a matter of modernizing, but rather never growing up in personal judgment, to know the difference between sober-mindedness and seeing evil in every corner and public square.

1Ti 2:15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

The Scripture is not saying our faith, charity, and holiness is proven by being alcoholess. Rather we are to have a sound mind about our faith, charity, and holiness living: Our faith saves us in Christ Jesus, but that doesn't mean everyone as to think like us. Being charitable doesn't mean becoming a pauper in need of chairty, while trying to feed the poor of the world. And holiness is moderation of dress and godly behavior in all things, not standing out in a crowd like an overdressed Islamist minus the burlap.

Afterall, when it comes to being dressed, more Scripture is devoted to not overdoing it, then underdoing it.

 

[Ghada]

Oneness Pentecostalism (also known as Apostolic, Jesus' Name Pentecostalism, or the Jesus Only movement) is a nontrinitarian religious movement within the Protestant Christian family of churches known as Pentecostalism.[1][2][3] It derives its name from its teaching on the Godhead, a form of Modalistic Monarchianism commonly referred to as the Oneness doctrine.[4][5][6] The doctrine states that there is one God―a singular divine spirit with no distinction of persons―who manifests himself in many ways, including as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.[7][8]

True. Oneness believers inspired the fanatism of Acts 2:38, into a saving work of law by water baptism.

They even proscribe the proper liturgy over the water baptism, by striclty saying "in the name of Jesus Christ for remmission of sins..."

If anyone is baptised in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Gost, or in the name of the Lord, then their water baptism is illigit, and the repented believer is not forgiven of sins.

The liturgical Catholics that pronounce the wine is verity blood of Christ, would be proud of liturgically propnouncing a whole bath, pond, or even river the verity holy water to wash aways sins.