My take on Trinity

[TonyChanYT]

Disclaimer: I am not against people using the term Trinity. I neither affirm nor deny Trinity.

Does the Bible support the concept of the Trinity?

Sure. The term was first used by Tertullian around 200 AD. I am not against the concept of the Trinity. I am not even against the word "Trinity." My point is this: I prefer not to use the term Trinity in argumentation.

Moreover, there is plurality in unity within the divine being.

However, when it comes to doctrines, I prefer to adhere to the wording of Scripture. Trinitarians likely penned the Apostles' Creed and the Nicene Creed, yet they did not include the word "Trinity" in their creeds.

Isaiah 9:

6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Do these titles refer to the same person?

When applied to the Divinity, the term person is loaded too much with anthropomorphism. I prefer to stick to the wording of the Scripture and use the term witness instead.

See

1. The Father is a witness
2. Jesus is God
3. The Holy Spirit is a witness
4. Hagar and the angel of the LORD.

The word "Trinity" is not in the Bible, so I'd avoid using it. I try to adhere to the Bible's words and wording as much as possible regarding doctrines.

Berean Literal Bible, Acts 17:

29 Therefore, being offspring of God, we ought not to consider the Divine Being [Θεῖον, Theion, G2304] to be like to gold or to silver or to stone, a graven thing of man's craft and imagination.

KJB translated Θεῖον as "Godhead"; NKJB used "Divine Nature."

The term Trinity is loaded and not in the Bible. The term Divine Being (G2304) is in the Bible. I would use that instead of Trinity.

See also

• The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one

 

[Josheb]

Disclaimer: I am not against people using the term Trinity. I neither affirm nor deny Trinity.

Does the Bible support the concept of the Trinity?

Sure.

Hmmm..............


The Bible surely supports the concept of the Trinity but you neither affirm nor deny that which scripture supports. You might want to ask the mods to delete this op and then start over because you've got yourself claiming not to afform what scripture supports.


Here's my suggestion: Have the mods delete the sentence, "I neither affirm nor deny Trinity," because that makes the op partly about you, the op is better without that one sentence, and your personal opinion is irrelevant if the case made for the doctrine of the Trinity is impeccable.

This op should also have been posted in the Trinity board, not the Other Topics/Questions board.

 

[grace2]

Disclaimer: I am not against people using the term Trinity. I neither affirm nor deny Trinity.

Does the Bible support the concept of the Trinity?

Sure.

So you dont worship Triune god? But you believe Jesus is God? It sure is a wishy-washy statement to avoid persecution and dont have confidence in your belief.

Where does it say Jesus is divine?

 

[Mr GLee]

Disclaimer: I am not against people using the term Trinity. I neither affirm nor deny Trinity.

Does the Bible support the concept of the Trinity?

Sure. The term was first used by Tertullian around 200 AD. I am not against the concept of the Trinity. I am not even against the word "Trinity." My point is this: I prefer not to use the term Trinity in argumentation.

Moreover, there is plurality in unity within the divine being.

However, when it comes to doctrines, I prefer to adhere to the wording of Scripture. Trinitarians likely penned the Apostles' Creed and the Nicene Creed, yet they did not include the word "Trinity" in their creeds.

Three denotes the end of a matter. beginning in Genesis . As a law of dying mankind three was needed to include what some call queen mother of heaven. A fleshly family In that we are are to call no man on earth Holy Father ,Holy Se, .Prince of the apostles the many attributes they say come from the Pope a daysman (dying mankind)

Passed down from the Faithless Jew. oral traditons of dying mankind. His and hers gods

Duality .Two the number that indicates God not seen has spoke. Using his prophet. . apostle Jesus to bring into the ears of the new born agin creatures the understanding of the father,

Christ, the husband of the church

A believer could call it the law of faith. . two working as one word (power) Both the law and the prophets (sola scriptura) the "let there be labor of love or work of Christ's faith and the good testimony "the prophets"

It apposes adding a third.(trinity ) Patron saints In that way no man can serve two good teaching masters as one invisible lord

Isaiah 8: 19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word,( singular ) it is because there is no light in them

 

[Eleanor]

So you dont worship Triune god? But you believe Jesus is God? It sure is a wishy-washy statement to avoid persecution and dont have confidence in your belief.

Where does it say Jesus is divine?

In the opening of the gospel of John, where

the Word was God; i.e. divine (Jn 1:1).

the divine Word (God) became human flesh in Jesus of Nazareth (Jn 1:14), making the Word both divine and human--God and man, in Jesus of Nazareth.

How did you miss that plain and unambiguous language?

 

[Mr GLee]

In the opening of the gospel of John, where

the Word was God; i.e. divine (Jn 1:1).

the divine Word (God) became human flesh in Jesus of Nazareth (Jn 1:14), making the Word both divine and human--God and man, in Jesus of Nazareth.

How did you miss that plain and unambiguous language?

I would offer interestingly I usually use the King James but in this case it would seem on this issue they supported the idea of three rather than the dynamic two as one .

Instead of showing the division between the flesh and the spirit the King James declares it desire more worship a lesser compared to a greater no worship coming from dying mankind .

Satan removing the spiritual eternal unseen things of the gospel

He has no spirit of understanding .The god of Paganism . . "Out of sight out of mind .God calls fools .No belief (faith) in a unseen God.

Romans 1:25King James Version Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than (the lie) the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Romans 1:25 ASV for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than (the truth) the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Romans 1:25ASV for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Romans 1:25 VBRG Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than (the lie) the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Romans 1:25 CSB They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served what has been created instead of the Creator, who is praised forever. Amen.

Romans 1:25 CEB They traded God’s truth for a lie, and they worshipped and served the creation instead of the creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

Romans 1:25 CJB They have exchanged the truth of God for falsehood, by worshipping and serving created things, rather than the Creator — praised be he for ever. Amen.

Romans 1:25 CEV They gave up the truth about God for a lie, and they worshiped God's creation instead of God, who will be praised forever. Amen.

Out of 75 translations three time "more than" (the lie) Like the fall "neither touch it"

 

[CrowCross]

The word "Trinity" is not in the Bible, so I'd avoid using it. I try to adhere to the Bible's words and wording as much as possible regarding doctrines.

This show's lack of understanding. There are many word that we have assigned to scripture that sums up or describes a particular subject.
The protoevangelium is an early example. The word protoevangelium isn't in the bible. Incarnation might be another..along with the concept of the trinity.
Because the bible doesn't use the term trinity doesn't mean it isn't so.

 

[Eleanor]

Disclaimer: I am not against people using the term Trinity. I neither affirm nor deny Trinity.
Does the Bible support the concept of the Trinity?
Sure. The term was first used by Tertullian around 200 AD. I am not against the concept of the Trinity. I am not even against the word "Trinity." My point is this:
I prefer not to use the term Trinity in argumentation.

Moreover, there is plurality in unity within the divine being.

However, when it comes to doctrines, I prefer to adhere to the wording of Scripture. Trinitarians likely penned the Apostles' Creed and the Nicene Creed, yet they did not include the word "Trinity" in their creeds.

Isaiah 9:


Do these titles refer to the same person?

When applied to the Divinity, the term person is loaded too much with anthropomorphism. I prefer to stick to the wording of the Scripture and use the term witness instead.

See

1. The Father is a witness
2. Jesus is God
3. The Holy Spirit is a witness
4. Hagar and the angel of the LORD.

The word "Trinity" is not in the Bible, so I'd avoid using it. I try to adhere to the Bible's words and wording as much as possible regarding doctrines.

Berean Literal Bible, Acts 17:


KJB translated Θεῖον as "Godhead"; NKJB used "Divine Nature."

The term Trinity is loaded and not in the Bible. The term Divine Being (G2304) is in the Bible. I would use that instead of Trinity.

See also

• The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one

Do you use the word "sovereign?"

 

[Mr GLee]

This show's lack of understanding. There are many word that we have assigned to scripture that sums up or describes a particular subject.
The protoevangelium is an early example. The word protoevangelium isn't in the bible. Incarnation might be another..along with the concept of the trinity.
Because the bible doesn't use the term trinity doesn't mean it isn't so.

Why three and not two. . . a company?.

Three would seem to be a crowd ?

Three is used to denotes the end of a matter "Strike three".

Jesus the Son of man our brother in the lord is not ashamed to call us brothers sisters and mothers .One is our adopting Holy Father in heaven.

Call no man on earth Holy Father.

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Mark 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

 

[CrowCross]

Why three and not two. . . a company?.

Three would seem to be a crowd ?

Three is used to denotes the end of a matter "Strike three".

Jesus the Son of man our brother in the lord is not ashamed to call us brothers sisters and mothers .One is our adopting Holy Father in heaven.

Call no man on earth Holy Father.

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Mark 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

In the book of Acts we are told point blank the Holy Spirit is God.

 

[Mr GLee]

In the book of Acts we are told point blank the Holy Spirit is God.

Ok I agree the Holy Spirit is of God . The Spirit of Christ. The Spirit of the father .One Spirit .

 

[CrowCross]

Ok I agree the Holy Spirit is of God . The Spirit of Christ. The Spirit of the father .One Spirit .

That depends on how you interpret the words.

 

[Mr GLee]

That depends on how you interpret the words.

Thanks yes

I would offer. Christ the husband married to His bride the church .

The father renamed his bride a more befitting name to name the bride of all nations .In Acts re named her Christian as a demonym .residents known by location . Named her after the founder of the city Christ the husband. The spiritual unseen born again seed.

Christ meaning anointing teacher he warns of those who say we do need dying mankind to teach or anoint us

Father Christ the work of one Holy Spirit

1 John 2:26-27 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Call no man on earth Holy Father .

Call no man on earth Christ the teaching Holy Father

 

[Eleanor]

Ok I agree the Holy Spirit is of God . The Spirit of Christ. The Spirit of the father .One Spirit .

Yes, one spirit (being); i.e., God, in three distinct persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (Mt 28:19).

Jesus shows three distinct persons in the (one being of the) ONE God.

The Son is subject to the Father, for the son is sent by the Father in the Father's name (Jn 5:23, 36, 43).
The Holy Spirit is subject to the Father, for the Holy Spirit is sent by the Father in the Son's name (Jn 14:26).
The Holy Spirit is subject to the Son as well as to the Father, for the Holy Spirit is sent by the Son as well as by the Father (Jn 15:26, 167, 14:26, Ac 2:33).

One is not subject to oneself.
One does not send oneself in the name of oneself, one sends another person in the name of oneself.
The plain language of Jesus presents three distinct divine persons in the one God.

 

[CrowCross]

I would offer. Christ the husband married to His bride the church .

That marriage hasn't happened yet.

 

[Mr GLee]

That marriage hasn't happened yet.

Yes we still live in a dying body .

That does not change the fact we are new creatures neither male nor female Jew nor gentile. We are in the engagement period . the veil will be lifted on the last day under the Sun . . then the kiss.